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nl Offline EMZ

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #240 on: January 08, 2018, 11:01:40 PM
A fellow collector sent me this picture. Most probably it is a tang stamp of a KL1993 model knife. Another one... It will get variation number 7. I have to complement my list of tang stamps.

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #241 on: February 06, 2018, 05:22:04 PM
Today this absolute ugly beauty came in the mail: A genuine KL 95 Fosco!
According to the seller (an ex-army officer who also collects DAK's), the alox KL 95 Fosco knives were bought by the Army in 1995 because the Victorinox KL 1993 knives weren't available at the time. The Army's Defence Material Organisation (DMO) soon realized that the Fosco KL 95 knives were of extremely bad quality, so short after the release, the contract was cancelled, the knives were withdrawn from service and remaining stock was destroyed. Consequently these alox Fosco's are very rare.

Received a couple of these cool thingies myself today:





The story behind these knives is what makes them so cool, and of course they are quite rare. But I can understand why the army got rid of these :rofl:

The biggest issue is consistency, all these knives look different. For example look at the bottom of the knifeblades (the pivoting parts), they are of unequal size:



It may not be very well visible on the picture but the nailnicks are of unequal size:



Also look at the can openers and how one sticks out much more than the other:



On two of the knives the backsprings stick out a bit while the tools are folded:



Look at the knobs on this thing! :D



Are these cool or what!  8)
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #242 on: February 06, 2018, 05:25:54 PM
I read elsewhere that these were a novelty item. And that they were never issued. But who knows :)
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #243 on: February 06, 2018, 05:51:19 PM
Great find Glenfiddich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was emailing with the seller, but probably I was too slow because suddenly they were sold. To you !
Congratulations!


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #244 on: February 06, 2018, 05:55:12 PM
Thanks  :salute:
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #245 on: February 17, 2018, 07:18:44 PM
question to the DAK collectors,
here is my first bailed DAK I got today, and the first thing I noticed is the bail is not mounted on a hollow rivet as on my SI ('91) and Soldier (92) but on what looks like a drilled non-hollow one ?

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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #246 on: March 21, 2018, 09:19:47 PM
question to the DAK collectors,
here is my first bailed DAK I got today, and the first thing I noticed is the bail is not mounted on a hollow rivet as on my SI ('91) and Soldier (92) but on what looks like a drilled non-hollow one ?

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I examined my KL 85, but I did not remove the bail (couldn't do it with my bare fingers and I don't want to use a tool). So.. uhhh... I don;t have an answer for you. Sorry!


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #247 on: March 21, 2018, 09:30:08 PM
On www.104starfighter.nl I found a picture of a Dutch Air Force Survival Kit. The kit is dated around 1985.
It is equiped with a blue cellidor Victorinox knife (probably a master Craftsman) with reamer, Phillips SC and small slotted SD on back layer.
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #248 on: March 21, 2018, 09:38:43 PM
Wow! Who can resist busting that thing out of the plastic bag!


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #249 on: March 21, 2018, 09:39:58 PM
Wow! Who can resist busting that thing out of the plastic bag!
I couldn't...

Open bag, take knife, throw away the other stuff.


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #250 on: April 20, 2018, 11:12:04 AM
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #252 on: May 15, 2018, 10:25:38 PM
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #253 on: May 16, 2018, 07:40:36 AM
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #255 on: June 15, 2018, 02:49:12 AM
 Decided to finally EDC this guy. I was a little hesitant as it is my only one, it was between this and an old red OC....    the red on the OC is and pretty darn good shape so I've decided to keep that one on the Shelf.

I'm finding a great amount of satisfaction in carrying the DAK... I like the older, thicker tools and the KL 92 on the scale.
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #256 on: June 15, 2018, 09:02:24 AM
Decided to finally EDC this guy. I was a little hesitant as it is my only one, it was between this and an old red OC....    the red on the OC is and pretty darn good shape so I've decided to keep that one on the Shelf.

I'm finding a great amount of satisfaction in carrying the DAK... I like the older, thicker tools and the KL 92 on the scale.

Very fine choice El C :2tu: :hatsoff:
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #257 on: July 18, 2018, 05:09:41 PM
Today this up to now unknown DAK came in!!  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
It's a Leatherman Tool plus leather pouch.

The pouch has the Netherlands Defence Force gold colored "Interservice" logo on the flap.
The tool is dated 0696 (or is it 9690??) on the inside of one handle.
On one of the handles it is marked with an US NSN: 5110-01-321-8805.
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #258 on: July 18, 2018, 05:45:05 PM
Awesome!

And that would be 0696.
LM only stamps month and year, not day.


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #259 on: July 18, 2018, 06:46:27 PM
Thanx Mech!

Oh, and I forgot to ask... Does anybody know which particular model this LM DAK is? It is here shown together with a much larger LM Super Tool (dated 0969).
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #260 on: July 18, 2018, 10:10:46 PM
Isn't that the PST or PST2?
(Not a LM expert so don't know the difference between the 2)


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #261 on: July 18, 2018, 10:17:44 PM
Today this up to now unknown DAK came in!!  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
It's a Leatherman Tool plus leather pouch.

The pouch has the Netherlands Defence Force gold colored "Interservice" logo on the flap.
The tool is dated 0696 (or is it 9690??) on the inside of one handle.
On one of the handles it is marked with an US NSN: 5110-01-321-8805.

Great find! :2tu:
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #262 on: July 18, 2018, 10:31:09 PM
Very nice find.......I believe that would be the PST as the PST2 has scissors.   :tu:


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #263 on: July 18, 2018, 11:36:06 PM
Decided to finally EDC this guy. I was a little hesitant as it is my only one, it was between this and an old red OC....    the red on the OC is and pretty darn good shape so I've decided to keep that one on the Shelf.

I'm finding a great amount of satisfaction in carrying the DAK... I like the older, thicker tools and the KL 92 on the scale.
M'Lord, I still have the '81 DAK tobsend you. I'll pop a pic up to show you. In the morning  :salute:
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #264 on: July 19, 2018, 03:03:00 PM
El-C's BY DAK
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #265 on: July 19, 2018, 03:08:30 PM
Mags, that's awesome!!
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #266 on: July 19, 2018, 03:11:50 PM
Cheers Barry  :salute:
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #267 on: July 19, 2018, 03:18:54 PM
 :cheers: And the same to you my friend!
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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #268 on: July 19, 2018, 04:51:52 PM
Decided to finally EDC this guy. I was a little hesitant as it is my only one, it was between this and an old red OC....    the red on the OC is and pretty darn good shape so I've decided to keep that one on the Shelf.

I'm finding a great amount of satisfaction in carrying the DAK... I like the older, thicker tools and the KL 92 on the scale.

Good choice!
There are still plenty KL 92's around, so if you lose it, or it gets stolen, you will find a replacement easily. And in The States a DAK will be more likely a conversation peace than a standard version.


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Re: Dutch Army Knives
Reply #269 on: July 19, 2018, 04:54:20 PM
Very nice find.......I believe that would be the PST as the PST2 has scissors.   :tu:

Yes, it is a PST. Thanks for letting me know!
Thanks to you and Mech I noticed that on the MTO Leatherman page there is a lot of information about de PST. I think I will post also a picture on that page.


 

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