Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.

[Fisting_Chili]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gerber-Multi-Plier-600-Yellow-Lumilite-AA-Flashlight_W0QQitemZ370214809132QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item563285ae2c

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gerber-Multi-Plier-600-Black-Needle-Nose-Sheath-NEW_W0QQitemZ380220000809QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5886e0ca29

both sellers are US-based, but the price (Buy It Now for less than $35) and qty (more than 10 available) make me wonder

Those are real.  I bought one of the yellow set (Damn you Chako!!!).  One thing to, is I look at the seller rating and with both of theirs in the thousands, I'd trust it. 

[Multitaskertools]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gerber-Multi-Plier-600-Yellow-Lumilite-AA-Flashlight_W0QQitemZ370214809132QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item563285ae2c

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gerber-Multi-Plier-600-Black-Needle-Nose-Sheath-NEW_W0QQitemZ380220000809QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5886e0ca29

both sellers are US-based, but the price (Buy It Now for less than $35) and qty (more than 10 available) make me wonder

Those are real.  I bought one of the yellow set (Damn you Chako!!!).  One thing to, is I look at the seller rating and with both of theirs in the thousands, I'd trust it. 

Something's amiss if they can sell at those prices, and everyone else is around 60...

or maybe im just paranoid

[J-sews]

Just got one of these DET's in via Australia (thanks MAT!) and sure enough its fake as a three dollar bill. Every single component - at least 20 different parts - has been copied and remade. Nothing is original Gerber. An amazingly thorough job of counterfeiting to be sure. But the clues are there and easy to spot once you know what to look for.

The plier head for instance looks good at arms length, but I wonder how well the crimper jaws would really work? The crimp profile is much better formed on the genuine article:




You guys have already pointed out the other major shortcomings in the handles and blades. One other thing worth mentioning though is the slider spring-clips. They are barely held on on the fake model! I was able to pop them off easily with just my fingernail. No way you could do this on a real Gerber!




Once apart, you can see other differences between a real Gerber plier head casting and the fake one.

[Fisting_Chili]

Just got one of these DET's in via Australia (thanks MAT!) and sure enough its fake as a three dollar bill. Every single component - at least 20 different parts - has been copied and remade. Nothing is original Gerber. An amazingly thorough job of counterfeiting to be sure. But the clues are there and easy to spot once you know what to look for.

The plier head for instance looks good at arms length, but I wonder how well the crimper jaws would really work? The crimp profile is much better formed on the genuine article:

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You guys have already pointed out the other major shortcomings in the handles and blades. One other thing worth mentioning though is the slider spring-clips. They are barely held on on the fake model! I was able to pop them off easily with just my fingernail. No way you could do this on a real Gerber!

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Once apart, you can see other differences between a real Gerber plier head casting and the fake one.

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Who'd you buy from?  The seller?  Is it the same guy?  Thats cool you can take it all apart like that and I agree ...they are damn well made fakes, but fakes none the less.  I hope no service personnel bought them to use in the field...

[J-sews]

I do believe Mat originally obtained mine from the same Hugewish shyster that you fellows did.

And it's NOT cool that it comes apart this easily! The damn thing would probably disintegrate just when you needed it the most!

In my opinion, they built this fake one to look good only while still in the package. (painted black metal instead of proper B.O. finish, flimsy plastic lock releases, thin gauge metal handles, etc)

[Chako]

Agreed.

Most fakes only need to dupe the unwary online for the sell.

I know about the easy disassembly. I did that to mine the other day. It goes back together as easy as it comes apart. 

I do like these fakes though. I have a Mammut that should make landfall sometime in the next 2 to 3 weeks.

[Fisting_Chili]

Agreed.

Most fakes only need to dupe the unwary online for the sell.

I know about the easy disassembly. I did that to mine the other day. It goes back together as easy as it comes apart. 

I do like these fakes though. I have a Mammut that should make landfall sometime in the next 2 to 3 weeks.

Mammut?

[J-sews]

Agreed.

Most fakes only need to dupe the unwary online for the sell.

I know about the easy disassembly. I did that to mine the other day. It goes back together as easy as it comes apart. 

I do like these fakes though. I have a Mammut that should make landfall sometime in the next 2 to 3 weeks.

Mammut?

Fake (junk) Wave

[Fisting_Chili]

Agreed.

Most fakes only need to dupe the unwary online for the sell.

I know about the easy disassembly. I did that to mine the other day. It goes back together as easy as it comes apart. 

I do like these fakes though. I have a Mammut that should make landfall sometime in the next 2 to 3 weeks.

Mammut?

Fake (junk) Wave

Haha,  how do you get "fake wave" from "mammut"?? 

[J-sews]

Mammut is German for mammoth, and is also the name of an import company. What comes out the back end of the mammoth is the crap Wave knock off they sell:


http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,5657.0.html

[Fisting_Chili]

Mammut is German for mammoth, and is also the name of an import company. What comes out the back end of the mammoth is the crap Wave knock off they sell:


http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,5657.0.html

Ahhh...thats pretty funny and clever!

[Chako]

http://cgi.ebay.ca/MAMMUT-FINE-TOOL-CORPORATION-MULTI-TOOL-with-logo_W0QQitemZ250608713268QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a59717e34

[ryan1835]

Just got one of these DET's in via Australia (thanks MAT!) and sure enough its fake as a three dollar bill. Every single component - at least 20 different parts - has been copied and remade. Nothing is original Gerber. An amazingly thorough job of counterfeiting to be sure. But the clues are there and easy to spot once you know what to look for.

The plier head for instance looks good at arms length, but I wonder how well the crimper jaws would really work? The crimp profile is much better formed on the genuine article:

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You guys have already pointed out the other major shortcomings in the handles and blades. One other thing worth mentioning though is the slider spring-clips. They are barely held on on the fake model! I was able to pop them off easily with just my fingernail. No way you could do this on a real Gerber!

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Once apart, you can see other differences between a real Gerber plier head casting and the fake one.

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does the fake accept the real plier head?

just curious

[J-sews]

does the fake accept the real plier head?

just curious

It does! (man these guys copied it to a tee)

[Kmarr]

What crafty little buggers!

Also, I didn't know it was that easy to take out the plier, now more mod ideas just came into my head
so many mods and I have not yet finished one!!

[ryan1835]

What crafty little buggers!

Also, I didn't know it was that easy to take out the plier, now more mod ideas just came into my head
so many mods and I have not yet finished one!!

there made to do that though

[Chako]

Well it didn't take long for our boy to find himself back on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/GERBER-MULTI-TOOL-PLIER-STAINLESS-CARBIDE-CUTTER-H1_W0QQitemZ180490738622QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a06161bbe

Now goes by the name mamawed2009 from China.

Note the stars around the name brand in the title...a dead giveaway. This item is fake. Note the USA that is painted on as opposed to punched into the handles. That sheath is made of thin materials also.

I reported him for all the good that will do.

[Multitaskertools]

"Awesome eBayer" huh?

don't know if it's the SAME seller, definitely using HUGEWISH images

Like I said, until something is done on the supply chain side to choke off the supply of these "fakes", they will have difficulty stopping these auctions

[Zed]

Well it didn't take long for our boy to find himself back on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/GERBER-MULTI-TOOL-PLIER-STAINLESS-CARBIDE-CUTTER-H1_W0QQitemZ180490738622QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a06161bbe

Now goes by the name mamawed2009 from China.

Note the stars around the name brand in the title...a dead giveaway. This item is fake. Note the USA that is painted on as opposed to punched into the handles. That sheath is made of thin materials also.

I reported him for all the good that will do.

im glad i just read this as i came across this today on ebat and thought wow thats cheap,      ill give it a miss 

paul

[Multitaskertools]

so much for eBay stepping in huh? now the seller has a perfect 100% feedback rating again 

[Fisting_Chili]

so much for eBay stepping in huh? now the seller has a perfect 100% feedback rating again 

I've pulled up that seller's for sale items and for each of the Gerbers, have reported the items as fake.

[Multitaskertools]

so much for eBay stepping in huh? now the seller has a perfect 100% feedback rating again 

I've pulled up that seller's for sale items and for each of the Gerbers, have reported the items as fake.

no doubt, but my point remains, eBay helps provide a safe haven for these types of sellers - which is why, IMHO, the only way to root out the problem is to address it from the supply chain side

[Fisting_Chili]

so much for eBay stepping in huh? now the seller has a perfect 100% feedback rating again 

I've pulled up that seller's for sale items and for each of the Gerbers, have reported the items as fake.

no doubt, but my point remains, eBay helps provide a safe haven for these types of sellers - which is why, IMHO, the only way to root out the problem is to address it from the supply chain side

They deleted the seller's other handle that was selling most of the Gerbers though, so ebay did actually take some action.  Was a bit slow, but something at least.  Also, I noticed that the current seller, at one time, had at least 10 of the Gerbers listed and now only has 1.  Used to have at least 3 pages of items for sale and now has less than 1.  Maybe action is still in the works.

[Multitaskertools]

The open auction reads: "more than 10 available."
 

[kl27x]

Is it just me, or does reading this thread make anyone else want to specifically seek out a fake Gerber MT at a smoking low cost?

[Kmarr]

 

Reading about how horrible the fake rescue tool was made me want to get one...


...so I did

[Fisting_Chili]

Is it just me, or does reading this thread make anyone else want to specifically seek out a fake Gerber MT at a smoking low cost?

I have one I'll trade you or sell to you!  Pm me if interested

[thundernoodle]

if you go on his ebay page you can report item. i just did and reported that he was selling them before under the username hugewish. if you also look at a couple of his items for sale ie (Browning) its got hugewish over the picture. Ebay must do something if they get many reports 

[Fisting_Chili]

Reading about how horrible the fake rescue tool was made me want to get one...


...so I did

You dork, lol!  I have one just sitting around!  Coulda traded you something for it.

[Multitaskertools]

i hate to say i told you so, but the same seller STILL has a perfect 100% feedback on eBay + numerous fake Gerbers for sale

http://shop.ebay.com/mamawed2009/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340