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Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.

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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #210 on: November 23, 2017, 08:41:43 AM
This comparison and photos are a real life saver  :salute: Saved me from a lot of stress (also caused me a lot of stress lol, made me kinda paraniod before my purchase).


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #211 on: November 23, 2017, 03:24:45 PM
since my pics have been killed by PHuckbucket I thought of re-uploading them for future members seeking for help here
my fake DET:









don't get fooled!!  :salute:
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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #212 on: December 12, 2017, 09:09:56 AM
FYI, just spotted a fake one with "U.S.A." stamped, not printed. It had all the same remaining fake details, though (curved, not angular shape, allen-key screwes etc etc).


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #213 on: January 09, 2018, 04:08:51 PM
The DET knockoff I reviewed for my '$5 MT Challenge' has 'U.S.A.' stamped into it.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,75224.0.html

What it DIDN'T have was the word 'Stainless' stamped just in front of the locking tabs on the handles, which the real MP600s DO have.

« Last Edit: January 09, 2018, 04:10:05 PM by Lynn LeFey »


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #214 on: March 11, 2018, 05:47:59 PM
updating with some pics for further ID and size comparo



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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #215 on: March 11, 2018, 05:56:46 PM
updating with some pics for further ID and size comparo

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Hey Tp, whats the one on the left in your last pic?


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #216 on: March 11, 2018, 07:41:38 PM
The DET knockoff I reviewed for my '$5 MT Challenge' has 'U.S.A.' stamped into it.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,75224.0.html

What it DIDN'T have was the word 'Stainless' stamped just in front of the locking tabs on the handles, which the real MP600s DO have.



What I'm worried about is that they're getting better... That painted U.S.A. mark was easy to spot, but now since they are stamping it, it will be even harder to spot the fake :twak:
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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #217 on: March 14, 2018, 01:45:49 AM
The DET knockoff I reviewed for my '$5 MT Challenge' has 'U.S.A.' stamped into it.
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,75224.0.html

What it DIDN'T have was the word 'Stainless' stamped just in front of the locking tabs on the handles, which the real MP600s DO have.



What I'm worried about is that they're getting better... That painted U.S.A. mark was easy to spot, but now since they are stamping it, it will be even harder to spot the fake :twak:

I would think the finishing on the real and fake should be a dead give away. Fake are painted black,  real is black oxide coated.


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #218 on: March 14, 2018, 08:00:23 AM
It will be funny if at some point the copy becomes better than the original..
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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #219 on: March 14, 2018, 12:29:01 PM
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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #220 on: March 19, 2018, 11:31:26 PM
Can someone help me determine if I bought a fake?

I bought an MP600 on ebay

Came in a "Gerber" box with instructions and leather sheath.

It looks real to me accept it doesn't have a "U.S.A." stamp just very small dark printed characters 087118M

Does anyone have a picture of a box for comparison?

The leather sheath has no markings on it of any kind.

Any info would be greatly appreciated

This is my first Gerber so I am not sure what to look for

Thank you


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #221 on: March 19, 2018, 11:53:28 PM
Can someone help me determine if I bought a fake?

I bought an MP600 on ebay

Came in a "Gerber" box with instructions and leather sheath.

It looks real to me accept it doesn't have a "U.S.A." stamp just very small dark printed characters 087118M

Does anyone have a picture of a box for comparison?

The leather sheath has no markings on it of any kind.

Any info would be greatly appreciated

This is my first Gerber so I am not sure what to look for

Thank you
Pics would be helpfull.

I'm not an expert though...


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #222 on: March 20, 2018, 12:23:58 AM
Yep pictures are on the way


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #223 on: March 20, 2018, 12:31:39 AM
I'm more confused than ever.

Here is a MP600 on ebay with similar markings and no stamped "USA"

Similar box too

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gerber-MP600-Multi-Tool-Multi-Plier-Blunt-Nose-Stainless-07500N-Brand-New/323132020980?epid=12011030304&hash=item4b3c2b58f4


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #224 on: March 20, 2018, 01:29:45 AM
I checked some of the first posts of this thread for clues to finding a possible fake

The washers on my "MP600" seem pretty thin



However this side has no USA stamp



This side looks OK to me



These are the characters



It does have the very finely stamped "stainless"



« Last Edit: March 20, 2018, 01:32:25 AM by tekin112000 »


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #225 on: March 20, 2018, 04:36:15 AM
Tekin, I thin you're fine. It's only the DET version of the Gerber that's being copied (as far as I know).

First, that looks like actual black oxide, instead of black paint. Second, that's a current MP600 plier head, with the replaceable cutters.

They've probably stopped stamping it USA because it's no longer USA made (or ALL USA made).

Also, the fakes come with nylon pouches. You said yours was Leather, right?

And for the record, the washers between tools on the legitimate Gerbers are very thin.

Hope this puts your mind at ease.


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #226 on: March 20, 2018, 02:25:25 PM
Thank you for responding Lynn.

Yes the sheath is a simple dark leather NOT nylon type fabric.

It's strangle that only DET models have shown up as fakes. I would think the more main stream regular MP600 would be the model fakers would choose to copy for widespread sales


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #227 on: March 20, 2018, 02:41:20 PM
Thank you for responding Lynn.

Yes the sheath is a simple dark leather NOT nylon type fabric.

It's strangle that only DET models have shown up as fakes. I would think the more main stream regular MP600 would be the model fakers would choose to copy for widespread sales
The DET will speak up to the military fans/collectors. Which is probably a larger group then multitool lovers.


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #228 on: March 20, 2018, 03:38:02 PM
I'll second everything that Lynn said,  ;)

and there are only fake DETs and BG tools around. No Chinese clone has ever had replaceable cutters, leather sheaths, and well in brief all the points that she brought up.  :salute:
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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #229 on: August 07, 2018, 07:44:38 PM
So wait, are there any real MP600s with that weird large awl and the goofy plier head? I thought *that* was the way to tell the fakes.

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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #230 on: August 07, 2018, 10:01:26 PM
So wait, are there any real MP600s with that weird large awl and the goofy plier head? I thought *that* was the way to tell the fakes.

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Nope.
There are genuine ones.
Meant for military use.


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #231 on: August 07, 2018, 10:19:10 PM
Gotcha. Rather a useless toolset for civilians IMO. My old MP600 with the replaceable jigsaw blade and the decent scissors is a better setup IMO.

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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #232 on: August 07, 2018, 11:00:33 PM
Totaly agree!


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #233 on: August 29, 2018, 08:25:30 PM
So has anyone thought of grabbing one of the fakes, taking out that weird spear tool, turning it down in a lathe and pressing on a bit driver?

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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #234 on: August 30, 2018, 03:40:52 PM
So has anyone thought of grabbing one of the fakes, taking out that weird spear tool, turning it down in a lathe and pressing on a bit driver?

Charles.

well I thinned and ground mine down to a sharper point, stripped the paint and use it to crack and stab ice from my freezer, and to poke holes in cans and containers  :whistle: but the lock has failed twice on me, fortunately with no ill results  :facepalm:
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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #235 on: September 17, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
So I grabbed one of these for $11. And... it's pretty crap. Wire cutters don't cut anything, pivot feels like there's sand in it, tried out the bottle opener driver and it bent right away. It's very much crap compared to the MP600.

However, the larger flat driver is decent enough. In one of my MP600's the flat driver had snapped off. I put a saw in that tool, which left a large space, but not enough space for a replacement flat driver. Finding a replacement flat driver is impossible, especially in black, and the driver in this fake is thinner than the MP600 driver anyhow. So, in it went. I had to exclude a washer or two because it's all a tight fit, but I got an extra tool out of the deal and I'm quite happy.

The added benefit is the pivots are 4mm. I had to drill out the flat driver to fit the 5mm Gerber pivots, but I've been needing a reliable source for 4mm tool pivots for my modding. So... WOO!

AND, the clips that hold the sliding pliers on fit the Gerber perfectly.

Plus I'm going to use these handles as a test bed for drilling and tapping holes to use a different style of pocket clip.

So I'm happy for all the parts. The took is utter crap as a whole, but for $11 that was a good purchase for the flat driver, replacement clips, and the pivots.


Charles.


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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #236 on: May 28, 2019, 05:58:28 PM
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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #238 on: August 06, 2019, 09:39:55 PM
I hope they realize it is a fake and get their money back. :facepalm:

Wonder how many people think MP600s  are junk, because of the fake DETs? :think:
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Re: Gerber MP 600 D.E.T Fake.
Reply #239 on: August 06, 2019, 10:59:34 PM
Maybe a collector? ::)..There are many "fake stuff" collectors out there. I know a guy who has all denomination fake US currency, Morgan Dollar coins, Breitling watches and even a Leatherman Wave and Charge and everything looks exactly like the authentic items. 
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