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What's your latest SAK? 1757883

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26070 on: March 21, 2018, 11:42:18 PM »
It's been a good week. A green Pioneer X and a Northfield #43 folder.

loving that green PioneerX  :drool: :drool: :like:

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26071 on: March 22, 2018, 12:03:09 PM »
Ohhh, I'm too exited not to post just yet! But I have two incoming!
The photo's were pretty bad but I believe one to be an early model of the SwissCard.
Not that special, but a SwissCard has been on my watchlist for so long that's I'm quite excited to have one heading my way.

Ans second a Wenger. I have trouble determinating it. And since the add is gone now I can't look at the photo any more (should have made a screenshot *_*)
From what I can remember: Large blade, can opener, bottle opener, scissors, fish scaler, orienteering tool, magnifier, corkscrew, awl and a wrench (the fixed type). I'm under the assumption that the logo is a metal inlay.

I took a closer look at the orienteering tool in general and if I'm correct it's the first model.

For now, the waiting game has begun...

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26072 on: March 22, 2018, 09:32:47 PM »
 :popcorn:

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26073 on: March 22, 2018, 09:42:05 PM »

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26074 on: March 23, 2018, 02:26:29 AM »
Just checked the tracking code and the mystery Wenger was delivered today!
Unfortunately I'm still in a hotel on the other side of the country for work.  :'(

The SwissCard is supposed to be shipped today. Sadly no tracking code. But if shipment goes smoothly it will arrive tomorrow.
Fortunately I'm driving back home tomorrow  :D

It's always nice to have something to come home to. Like a Wenger and a Victorinox.
Oh yeah, and the dog and the girlfriend   :rofl:

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26075 on: March 24, 2018, 12:58:43 PM »
So I got home yesterday and I was welcomed by a nice hefty package on the doormat (and my dog, and my girlfriend).
Inside was the Wenger I bought on an impulse. It turned out to be very interesting.

But let's start with the sellers photo, advertised as: Victorinox 13 functions.


It's hard to tell a lot form this photo alone. (This one I dug up out of my cache, resized it and cleaned it up). But it has a compas and a magnifier so that was reason enough to pull the trigger on this one.

What arrived was a bone dry SAK. Movement was very gritty, there were little stones and sand in the SAK.
And I don't like sand. It's coarse and irritating and it get's everywhere.
There was no snap in any of the tools and opening them nearly cost me some nails.

So today I tried to clean it. It took five cycles in the sonic bath to get clean water. And there is still muck in there. So I'll have some more cleaning to do.


Wenger Bacta Treatment

After a dry and a quick oil treatment the snap was back and opening was so much easier.
This is what I got:


Mystery Wenger


Mystery Wenger: front scale, back tool layer and back scale with engraving

I like used SAKs. I like to patch them up, sharpen them and give them a second life either on display or in use. With this one it's even more evident it has had a previous owner because the back scale has an engraving. Makes me wonder where this SAK has been because I did not buy it from Gerald.

So, what model is it and how old it it? It's got me puzzled. I'm not used to dating Wenger so I look for the obvious. The tang stamp is used from 1966-2008. That's just accurate enough to know it is made at some point in time. The logo on the front scale perhaps? 1975-2008? Then let's take a closer look at the tools, the orienteering tool got me to buy it because I've never seen a metal one before. That hunch was correct. It's a 1st generation orienteering tool which was introduced (according to SakWiki) in 1985-86 and succeed by a 2nd generation in 1986. So now we have a date. One other thing that springs to mind is the absence of the chain. There is no (and has not been) an attachment point.


Wenger 1st generation orienteering tool and aluminium compass

And then there is the fishscaler. This one does not have a line guide. So it's an older model.


Wenger fish scaler


Wenger metal file and woodsaw


Wenger scissors


Wenger universal wrench

The complete toolset:
Front layer: Large blade, Nail file, Philips screwdriver, Universal wrench, Scissors, Woodsaw, Metal file/saw, Fishscaler, Magnifier /w Small screwdriver, Orienteering tool, Bottle opener, Can opener.
Back layer:Awl (no sewing eye), Corkscrew.
Scale tools:Toothpick, Tweezers

Now we have a date we can look up some catalogs. Sadly, No 1985 and 1986 catalogs are available to me. I do know it does not show up in the 1982 catalog.
The Matterhorn (16927) resembles it most. Except it has a keychain and no Orienteering Tool.
And then, in the 1990 catalog, I find the answer. It's a Matterhorn Plus. However, in 1990 the orienteering tool has changed to the 2nd gen and there is a keychain. Perhaps they could be ordered without a keychain?

So the mystery is solved. The Mystery Wenger is a Matterhorn Plus from around 1985.


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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26076 on: March 24, 2018, 01:36:22 PM »
That's just gorgeous Mactire  :drool: :like: :like:

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26077 on: March 24, 2018, 02:25:33 PM »
Wowser... what a Wanger....err... Wenger   :like:
Cool "Japan" compass.

Hirss seems a common name in Austria.
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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26078 on: March 24, 2018, 03:17:00 PM »
This little blue never number arrived this morning


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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26079 on: March 24, 2018, 03:20:50 PM »
Nice one Smashie  :like: :like: :tu:

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26080 on: March 24, 2018, 04:06:26 PM »
A lot of nice SAKs :drool:


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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26081 on: March 24, 2018, 04:16:28 PM »
Arrived from Austria - replaces the one I lost when I was a kid - worth every penny
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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26082 on: March 24, 2018, 04:19:40 PM »
This little blue never number arrived this morning

(Image removed from quote.)

Ouh! With Jaffa Cake spatula  :drool:
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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26083 on: March 24, 2018, 04:19:46 PM »
Arrived from Austria - replaces the one I lost when I was a kid - worth every penny
Oh what a lovely SAK :drool:

Welcome to the forums Groke :cheers:


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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26084 on: March 24, 2018, 04:20:12 PM »
Arrived from Austria - replaces the one I lost when I was a kid - worth every penny

 :like:
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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26085 on: March 24, 2018, 04:38:34 PM »
That's very nice Groke  :like: :like: :tu:

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26086 on: March 24, 2018, 04:48:18 PM »
I added a Mountaineer to my collection it is in route.
Seller said, never used.  Sure seems like it's been carried though since it has a chain on it.  I'm now thinking there are distinctions between:

Never Used
Never Used but Carried

The ad:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/...ksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Photo from the ad:
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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26087 on: March 24, 2018, 05:37:31 PM »
I added a Mountaineer to my collection it is in route.
Seller said, never used.  Sure seems like it's been carried though since it has a chain on it.  I'm now thinking there are distinctions between:

Never Used
Never Used but Carried

The ad:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/...ksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Photo from the ad:
(Image removed from quote.)

Very nice find for a good price :tu:

My Swiss Army Knife collection website: http://sak.s70.nl/ (still work in progress)
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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26088 on: March 24, 2018, 05:37:45 PM »
Arrived from Austria - replaces the one I lost when I was a kid - worth every penny

:2tu:

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26089 on: March 24, 2018, 05:38:16 PM »
This little blue never number arrived this morning

(Image removed from quote.)

 :like:

So I got home yesterday and I was welcomed by a nice hefty package on the doormat (and my dog, and my girlfriend).
Inside was the Wenger I bought on an impulse. It turned out to be very interesting.

But let's start with the sellers photo, advertised as: Victorinox 13 functions.
(Image removed from quote.)

It's hard to tell a lot form this photo alone. (This one I dug up out of my cache, resized it and cleaned it up). But it has a compas and a magnifier so that was reason enough to pull the trigger on this one.

What arrived was a bone dry SAK. Movement was very gritty, there were little stones and sand in the SAK.
And I don't like sand. It's coarse and irritating and it get's everywhere.
There was no snap in any of the tools and opening them nearly cost me some nails.

So today I tried to clean it. It took five cycles in the sonic bath to get clean water. And there is still muck in there. So I'll have some more cleaning to do.

(Image removed from quote.)
Wenger Bacta Treatment

After a dry and a quick oil treatment the snap was back and opening was so much easier.
This is what I got:

(Image removed from quote.)
Mystery Wenger

(Image removed from quote.) (Image removed from quote.) (Image removed from quote.)
Mystery Wenger: front scale, back tool layer and back scale with engraving

I like used SAKs. I like to patch them up, sharpen them and give them a second life either on display or in use. With this one it's even more evident it has had a previous owner because the back scale has an engraving. Makes me wonder where this SAK has been because I did not buy it from Gerald.

So, what model is it and how old it it? It's got me puzzled. I'm not used to dating Wenger so I look for the obvious. The tang stamp is used from 1966-2008. That's just accurate enough to know it is made at some point in time. The logo on the front scale perhaps? 1975-2008? Then let's take a closer look at the tools, the orienteering tool got me to buy it because I've never seen a metal one before. That hunch was correct. It's a 1st generation orienteering tool which was introduced (according to SakWiki) in 1985-86 and succeed by a 2nd generation in 1986. So now we have a date. One other thing that springs to mind is the absence of the chain. There is no (and has not been) an attachment point.

(Image removed from quote.) (Image removed from quote.)
Wenger 1st generation orienteering tool and aluminium compass

And then there is the fishscaler. This one does not have a line guide. So it's an older model.

(Image removed from quote.)
Wenger fish scaler

(Image removed from quote.)
Wenger metal file and woodsaw

(Image removed from quote.)
Wenger scissors

(Image removed from quote.)
Wenger universal wrench

The complete toolset:
Front layer: Large blade, Nail file, Philips screwdriver, Universal wrench, Scissors, Woodsaw, Metal file/saw, Fishscaler, Magnifier /w Small screwdriver, Orienteering tool, Bottle opener, Can opener.
Back layer:Awl (no sewing eye), Corkscrew.
Scale tools:Toothpick, Tweezers

Now we have a date we can look up some catalogs. Sadly, No 1985 and 1986 catalogs are available to me. I do know it does not show up in the 1982 catalog.
The Matterhorn (16927) resembles it most. Except it has a keychain and no Orienteering Tool.
And then, in the 1990 catalog, I find the answer. It's a Matterhorn Plus. However, in 1990 the orienteering tool has changed to the 2nd gen and there is a keychain. Perhaps they could be ordered without a keychain?

So the mystery is solved. The Mystery Wenger is a Matterhorn Plus from around 1985.



Awlsome!  :cheers: :2tu:

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26090 on: March 24, 2018, 06:13:25 PM »

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26091 on: March 24, 2018, 06:34:49 PM »
 :like: :like: :tu:

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26092 on: March 24, 2018, 07:40:22 PM »
Seller said, never used.  Sure seems like it's been carried though since it has a chain on it.  I'm now thinking there are distinctions between:
Never Used
Never Used but Carried

Yes, there seems to be a margin of never usedness.

I once bought a boardgame, only used once. It was dirty and incomplete. When I contacted the seller they said it was complete and that she had trouble parting with it because it was their family favourite. -Used once...

Same story with a SAK I once bought. Some scratches on the blade are synonymous to thrown under a passing train and hit with a hammer.

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26093 on: March 25, 2018, 11:10:20 PM »
Oh how often I got broken tools, burnt scales and missing scale tools in badly pictured and poorly described auctions... It's a sport in and of itself I think...

Anyways... Got a few more beauties in the last few days...

Victorinox:
Classic in gold Alox with Piaget ad. (I've actually had this for years... This may even have been my first classic as I found it deep within a box in my salvaged coin collection)
Secretary in teal Alox with elgasonic ad.
Pioneer Rancher with OC red scales. Pruner blade tip snapped... Will need a trip to the spa.
1979 Soldier in very good condition
2009 Soldier in very good condition too... Even came with the pouch.






Wenger:
Esquire in red with Binningen written on the back scale along with the crest of the municipality (just outside Basel)
Esquire in royal blue with a "fraisa" logo on the back scale
Unknown 76mm "fat-victorinox-accountant-like" with stainless steel scales and Wengerinox tang-stamp. The big blade has an ad engraved on it that says "Acier Firth S.-A. De Vente - Zurich".
Unknown 82mm Tahara with yellowish scales that look a bit like fake mother of pearl with some shiny parts inside. Has just a small blade and a big blade
Antique 82mm Tahara Viking-like. Relatively good shape except for the small blade tip that is bent.
3 Patriots, 1 green, 1 red and 1 dark red.
1983 Soldier in great shape except for a doubly bent blade tip... Not sure if I should entrust it to the Vic spa to see what they can do with the blade... What do you guys (and gals) think?




« Last Edit: March 25, 2018, 11:21:14 PM by Syem »
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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26094 on: March 26, 2018, 12:39:50 AM »
That would depend if Vic would spend any time straightening it, more likely they will either grind it or replace it, if they replace it will they stamp it? might be worth asking first
Nice haul though  :tu:
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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26095 on: March 26, 2018, 01:22:31 AM »
Jumping ahead of myself maybe.
But at least we have a price! 259 euros.
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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26096 on: March 26, 2018, 01:23:59 AM »
Wow, Syem, that Piaget is gorgeous!
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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26097 on: March 26, 2018, 07:00:48 PM »
This gorgeous EvoWood S557 was waiting for me at my office this morning.

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26098 on: March 26, 2018, 07:05:53 PM »
This gorgeous EvoWood S557 was waiting for me at my office this morning.
That's just gorgeous  :drool: :drool:
Like the look of those pliers  :tu: :like: :like:

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Re: What's your latest SAK?
« Reply #26099 on: March 26, 2018, 08:01:35 PM »
Jumping ahead of myself maybe.
But at least we have a price! 259 euros.

That is one Deluxe Tinker Deluxe  :cheers:

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