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Re: Re: Juice Club
Reply #150 on: December 03, 2011, 02:02:54 AM
In real life, mine is about one shade lighter than true "black" (if that makes sense)
Makes sense to me. Lesson from a paint retailer-NEVER judge colors from your computer monitor or a picture. What you see isn't going to be what you get. That being said, a deeper gray than the storm gray would be sweet. Are these only C2s?

Regretfully, yes. I asked on their FB page, and they said there weren't any, but Dunc directed me to the library I linked below and there is only the C2/Style combo. C2 is my least favorite Juice. :/


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Re: Juice Club
Reply #151 on: December 03, 2011, 06:23:38 PM
Yeah, naked looks good too. ;)

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Its like a Skeletool and a Juice had a baby.  :D
Skelejuice :rofl: yes, does look good like this :tu:
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #152 on: May 29, 2012, 04:12:16 AM
Old thread, new Juice owner. I added a Juice C2 to the lineup recently. While my wife and I both have survival kits in our packs and vehicles I decided to make an urban EDC recently. It will include the Juice, Buck Hartsook, Pocket Widget, Space Pen, mini first aid kit, paracord, rite in rain pad, emergency whistle, single edge razor, USB thumb drive, zip ties, Streamlight Stylus Pro Pen light, lighter and duct tape. The Juice C2 is the heart of the kit.


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Re: Juice Club
Reply #153 on: May 30, 2012, 03:50:47 AM
New owner of S2, here.

I've given the scissors, can opener, and drivers a bit of a workout, and am overall pretty happy. Size is really nice. Weight is nice, about an ounce less than my PST. It has nice 'snappy' action, and while they don't lock, all the drivers have really good retention, and are offset so they don't work to force a collapse.

I'm not sure if it's a factory edge, but this blade is sharp. Date stamps of 03 make me think previous owners have touched it up nicely.

I think I might love it. :D



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Re: Juice Club
Reply #154 on: May 30, 2012, 11:14:24 PM


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Re: Juice Club
Reply #155 on: May 31, 2012, 02:58:07 AM
Amici,
The Juice is a small package that's hard to beat, and after a few swipes from a ceramic rod, holds a razor like edge.

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Re: Juice Club
Reply #156 on: May 31, 2012, 09:06:29 PM
Hey, I hadn't spotted this one!

I'm in! A Juice S2 lives in my jacket pocket...


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Re: Juice Club
Reply #157 on: June 01, 2012, 03:42:53 AM
I've got an S2 and it's a great little tool.  Mine currently lives in my survival kit.

I do have a couple of issues with it though...  I don't care for the blade, either its shape or the fact it's hollow ground.  The blade in mine will take a very keen edge, but it dulls fairly quickly as well.

I also would gladly give up a couple of the flat head drivers for a small phillips driver.  The lack of a small (1 or 0) phillips driver is why I never found it desirable for EDC.
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #158 on: June 01, 2012, 03:56:27 AM
The S2 definitely has a lot going for it. :salute: I like how slim it is :tu: as compared to the C2 with its confounded pocket-grabbing corkscrew :P
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #159 on: June 01, 2012, 04:30:36 PM
The blade in mine will take a very keen edge, but it dulls fairly quickly as well.
I am experimenting with this for a couple of weeks now and it seems that Juice's blade gets dull even without use while days pass. But, every time I sharpen it (every couple of days), it keeps its edge for a little longer. I don't know if this makes any sense or if it is possible, but it seems like juice's blade steel has some kind of "memory" and the more times you sharpen it, the more it stays sharp.
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #160 on: June 01, 2012, 08:32:07 PM
Aleister, I've encountered that on both expensive and inexpensive knives and attribute it to overheating during the production sharpening process, which ruins the temper of the steel. On a Fallkniven I have it took five full on sharpenings before I got into the good steel.


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Re: Juice Club
Reply #161 on: June 02, 2012, 12:10:33 AM
Sometimes I think the grinding has been done too aggressively, putting stresses in the fine edge and making it curl. An easy way to check is just giving it a quick strop before use. If it cuts the edge is curling, if not then it's theonew's theory and a matter of getting to the good steel beneath. YMMV


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Re: Juice Club
Reply #162 on: June 02, 2012, 03:58:18 AM
The blade in mine will take a very keen edge, but it dulls fairly quickly as well.
I am experimenting with this for a couple of weeks now and it seems that Juice's blade gets dull even without use while days pass. But, every time I sharpen it (every couple of days), it keeps its edge for a little longer. I don't know if this makes any sense or if it is possible, but it seems like juice's blade steel has some kind of "memory" and the more times you sharpen it, the more it stays sharp.
I think this is a general characteristic of cheaply manufactured hollow ground blades.  As you sharpen the edge and wear it down, it moves the edge progressively into a thicker cross section which should reduce the tendency to roll the edge, unless it's a very shallow grind angle. 

As nice a design as the Juices are, they're made pretty cheaply.  I mean, they use a nut/bolt construction on the Style PS and CS, and the blade on the CS is also flat ground, so why can't they do it on the Juice line as well?  I'd gladly give up a double sided hollow ground blade for a chisel edge flat grind blade.  Is that too much to ask in a $50 tool?   :whistle:
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #163 on: June 02, 2012, 04:33:17 AM
I think the Juice line was created as a direct competitor against swiss army knives, which also have soft(ish) steel blades and riveted construction.
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #164 on: June 02, 2012, 04:40:16 AM
I still like my S2 but always hated the blade.  Im just about done grinding on a 91mm SAK blade and fitting in on the S2, then it will make its way back to the EDC rotation.  The blades are even exactly the same thickness, I just had to drill a new hole and make a spring retention nick.
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #165 on: June 02, 2012, 03:43:00 PM
I still like my S2 but always hated the blade.  Im just about done grinding on a 91mm SAK blade and fitting in on the S2..

Brilliant idea! I had a Juice but the blade was pants,  the combo bottle opener/can opener was a joke, and the scissors were poorly fitted and floppy. Replace the blade and scissors with Vic scissors (or Wenger serrated), and re-design that useless combo tool, and you'll have a decent MT. The Juice comes frustratingly close to hitting that sweet spot for a pocket tool, but it needs improvement.

And for those who carry a SAK with their Juice: the combined weight of those two items is the same as ONE Swisstool Spirit (or any other similar-sized tool),, about 7 ounces.  So you're better carrying one of those, rather than two tools.  


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Re: Juice Club
Reply #166 on: June 02, 2012, 04:29:06 PM
I still like my S2 but always hated the blade.  Im just about done grinding on a 91mm SAK blade and fitting in on the S2..

Brilliant idea! I had a Juice but the blade was pants,  the combo bottle opener/can opener was a joke, and the scissors were poorly fitted and floppy. Replace the blade and scissors with Vic scissors (or Wenger serrated), and re-design that useless combo tool, and you'll have a decent MT. The Juice comes frustratingly close to hitting that sweet spot for a pocket tool, but it needs improvement.

And for those who carry a SAK with their Juice: the combined weight of those two items is the same as ONE Swisstool Spirit (or any other similar-sized tool),, about 7 ounces.  So you're better carrying one of those, rather than two tools.

My thoughts exactly.  I just posted my progress so far in the mod section.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/board,16.0.html

Next I do want to get vic scissors on this and I'll be much happier.
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #167 on: June 05, 2012, 05:40:52 AM
Juice club...I'm in  :cheers: Here are my Leatherman Juice MT's

Juice CS4
Juice PRO
Juice S2.

I have a Juice XE6 on the way in Thunder Purple, and I'm also on the look out for a Juice KF4.



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Juice Club
Reply #168 on: June 05, 2012, 12:39:10 PM
I still like my S2 but always hated the blade.  Im just about done grinding on a 91mm SAK blade and fitting in on the S2..

And for those who carry a SAK with their Juice: the combined weight of those two items is the same as ONE Swisstool Spirit (or any other similar-sized tool),, about 7 ounces.  So you're better carrying one of those, rather than two tools.

If I could I would, I wouldn't actually I would carry my TTI but as the law stands I cant, not without upsetting mr plod.
So for now it's the cs4 when not at work.
And it works perfectly fine. And if I need a little more cutting ability I could pair it with my pioneer with pruner blade or my ukpk.
The juice is what it is and I find the blade excellent for its size, cuts and sharpens very well its just I can't lean on it as much as others.
My trouble is i never show initiative, but that's only because no one has told me to.


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Re: Juice Club
Reply #169 on: June 05, 2012, 02:36:31 PM
I still like my S2 but always hated the blade.  Im just about done grinding on a 91mm SAK blade and fitting in on the S2..

Brilliant idea! I had a Juice but the blade was pants,  the combo bottle opener/can opener was a joke, and the scissors were poorly fitted and floppy. Replace the blade and scissors with Vic scissors (or Wenger serrated), and re-design that useless combo tool, and you'll have a decent MT. The Juice comes frustratingly close to hitting that sweet spot for a pocket tool, but it needs improvement.

And for those who carry a SAK with their Juice: the combined weight of those two items is the same as ONE Swisstool Spirit (or any other similar-sized tool),, about 7 ounces.  So you're better carrying one of those, rather than two tools.

MY S2 is the work horse that I carry the most. :tu:

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Re: Juice Club
Reply #170 on: June 06, 2012, 10:24:48 PM
I keep my S2 in my survival kit, along with my Wenger PER Ranger 179.  This combo works better for me in this application.  The Ranger has a ginormous saw, and great OHO blade, and the S2 has all the small SAK-ey stuff like scissors and drivers, and good pliers.  I also like that if I lose one, I'm not totally screwed... I still have a decent tool with me. 
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #171 on: June 06, 2012, 11:50:25 PM

Defend the Hive!!!


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Re: Juice Club
Reply #172 on: June 10, 2012, 09:50:40 PM
I'm in, the Juice S2 Flaming Orange. :tu:





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Re: Juice Club
Reply #173 on: June 13, 2012, 03:48:25 AM
Sweet! :tu: And its a brand new one too, with the new lettering style. Congrats! :drool:


So what are the date codes on that one armèe-suisse? :)
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #174 on: June 18, 2012, 03:53:13 AM
The Juice is loose!



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Re: Juice Club
Reply #175 on: June 19, 2012, 03:49:51 AM
Great photo jw! :multi:
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #176 on: June 19, 2012, 09:23:45 AM

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Re: Juice Club
Reply #177 on: June 19, 2012, 05:35:56 PM
Thanks J-Sews and MultiMat.


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Re: Juice Club
Reply #178 on: August 15, 2012, 03:45:13 AM
Mine:

S2 in storm grey. Dated 0102. Stamped Leatherman USA.
KF4 in solar yellow. Dated 0801. Stamped Leatherman USA.
CS4 in storm grey. Dated 0402. Stamped Leatherman Tool.

*The stamps are for the following:
Leatherman USA models were made before Leatherman started production overseas.
Leatherman USA with the USA ground out were made after overseas production started. The only Juice models to have this are certain solar yellow KF4s.
Leatherman Tool stamping was started after Leatherman had moved production overseas.
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Re: Juice Club
Reply #179 on: August 15, 2012, 04:14:50 AM
A great trio you've got there JN! :tu:


Mine:

S2 in storm grey. Dated 0102. Stamped Leatherman USA.
KF4 in solar yellow. Dated 0801. Stamped Leatherman USA.
CS4 in storm grey. Dated 0402. Stamped Leatherman Tool.

*The stamps are for the following:
Leatherman USA models were made before Leatherman started production overseas.
Leatherman USA with the USA ground out were made after overseas production started. The only Juice models to have this are certain solar yellow KF4s.
Leatherman Tool stamping was started after Leatherman had moved production overseas.


Hmmm, but "moved production overseas" isn't exactly the case. :think: To be precise, Leatherman has a few individual components made in other countries, but the vast majority are produced in their Portland Oregon plant, as well as 100% of the assembly work. Despite this however, a California Court decision ruled they could no longer have U.S.A on the tools. Here is a quote from the Leatherman Website going into more detail:


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May, 2005, Portland, OR—A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has found that between April of 1997 and April of 2002, Leatherman Tool Group, Inc. violated a unique California law concerning the ability of companies to represent their products as “Made in USA.” The court in Colgan v. Leatherman Tool Group held that under California law Leatherman engaged in false or misleading advertising by representing that certain of its tools were “Made in USA.” As a result, the court directed the company to pay approximately $13 million in restitution. Leatherman is disappointed with the ruling and intends to file an appeal.

A recent Associated Press story about the ruling gave the distinct impression that Leatherman brand multi-tools are, for the most part, made outside the United States. This is false.

The unique California law at issue prohibits companies from selling in California any product represented as “Made in USA” if “any article, unit, or part” of the product was “substantially made, manufactured, or produced outside of the United States.” As interpreted by one California judge, the law prohibits a “Made in USA” representation of a product even if the only foreign content in the product is a single screw.

These Leatherman tools were all built and assembled by U.S. workers at U.S. factories using primarily parts made entirely in the United States and some parts processed, in part, in Western Europe, Mexico, or Canada. Unfortunately, Leatherman is not able to procure all of its component parts in the United States because of quality, technological, or economic considerations. But Leatherman Tool Group has never shipped a job overseas, and the company remains committed to keeping and creating as many jobs here as possible.

“As proud as I am of the invention of the Leatherman tool, I am even more proud of the hundreds of American jobs I have created,” said company founder and president Tim Leatherman. “I am disappointed in the court’s ruling for a number of reasons, but I am especially disappointed that the court disregarded a ruling issued by a federal judge in 1997 stating that our representation that the Leatherman PST tool was made in the United States was ‘neither false nor misleading.’”

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