Battle of the minnie scissors

[gene stoner]

For years I've read about the the debate between the Wenger 65mm and the Vic 58mm scissors but haven't ever found anyone who did a side by side test of the two. So till I'm satisfied I well be carring both sizes and posting the results here.

I would like to have feedback on what materials you would like tested.

First test corrugated cardboard. No surprise both preformed well as expected with no real difference between the two.

[Ron Who]

From my own and others' experiences, the Vic is better at fingernails than the Wenger. With fishing line it's the other way around. Both for the same reason: the Wenger's scissors are serrated.

So here's your chance to confirm / debunk some minnie scissor myths.

Pics of my Delemont Evowood 81

[gene stoner]

Next up Para cord. I've read that some people have problems cutting para cord with the Wenger. Both tool cut the cord but they both took multiple cuts to complete the task. The only real difference between the two is the Vic made a cleaner cut then the serrated Wenger.

Third test is industrial strength nylon strap used on semi trucks. Surprisingly both tools preformed very well with a slight edge to the 65mm because of the serrations.

More to come.

[Gareth]

Good stuff GS. 

[Don Pablo]

 

[FolderBeholder]

Cool thread!  How about testing on bubble wrap or ziploc baggies.  That's where I have found some scissors to fail.

[Poncho65]

+1

[VICMAN]

Interesting comparison Gene..... keep the comparisons coming!
 

[gene stoner]

Thanks everyone! If you make suggested test thanks I well try to get to it.

So I tested 8 pound monofilament line, gorilla tape, metal tape, rubber inner tube and finger nails. Both scissors preformed equally with no problem.

Next up some thin plastic grocery bags and thin cellophane. The Vic definitely shined in this one. Something when cutting thin material like this the material fold between the scissors blades. I made several cuts with both scissors and the Vic never missed a beat. The Wenger not so much. If I didn't hold the plastic just or cut to fast then the Wenger may or may not cut. If I took my time and did the cuts right then the Wenger would cut almost 100% of the time.
It's probably more an annoyance then anything but the Vic won by working 100% of the time.

[FolderBeholder]

Something when cutting thin material like this the material fold between the scissors blades.

Agreed, I've had this happen to me especially when the scissors are old.
Thank you for testing them out and posting your findings. 

[Mizedog]

Can you confirm success citing fingernails?

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[jaya_man]

I have both types of scissors and confirm what u have tested above. I've used the scissors on paracord, thin plastic bags, tapes and paper and coffee mix sachets and medicine packaging. This mostly what I cut it with and prefer the Vic over Wenger's self sharpening one. This is one of the reasons why the 65mm Executive 81 never gets used.

Have used those on Style PS and Squirt as well and still prefer Vic for its thinner width profile. Makes for more accurate and precise cutting...


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[gene stoner]

Can you confirm success citing fingernails?

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Yes I can just as soon as they grow back.

[FolderBeholder]

Can you confirm success citing fingernails?

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Yes I can just as soon as they grow back.

Time to start on the toenails. 

[gene stoner]

I have both types of scissors and confirm what u have tested above. I've used the scissors on paracord, thin plastic bags, tapes and paper and coffee mix sachets and medicine packaging. This mostly what I cut it with and prefer the Vic over Wenger's self sharpening one. This is one of the reasons why the 65mm Executive 81 never gets used.

Have used those on Style PS and Squirt as well and still prefer Vic for its thinner width profile. Makes for more accurate and precise cutting...


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Personally it's not enough for me to to drop my Pocket tool chest in favor a 58mm platform.  I need more data before I do that so today I'll continue to carry both tools looking for stuff to cut. I really would like some testing ideas from you folks so let me know what you think would make a good comparison test.

[jaya_man]

I have both types of scissors and confirm what u have tested above. I've used the scissors on paracord, thin plastic bags, tapes and paper and coffee mix sachets and medicine packaging. This mostly what I cut it with and prefer the Vic over Wenger's self sharpening one. This is one of the reasons why the 65mm Executive 81 never gets used.

Have used those on Style PS and Squirt as well and still prefer Vic for its thinner width profile. Makes for more accurate and precise cutting...


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Personally it's not enough for me to to drop my Pocket tool chest in favor a 58mm platform.  I need more data before I do that so today I'll continue to carry both tools looking for stuff to cut. I really would like some testing ideas from you folks so let me know what you think would make a good comparison test.

Tried fabric or clothing?


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[Aloha]

Great thread.  I'd like to see plastic bottles.  I often use them for various purposes tho admittedly I use the blade when cutting them to size. 

I'd also like to see candle wicks.  Trimming them is always best done with sharp scissors. 

Gauze, drinking straw, and food packing thats foil lined.   

[Mizedog]

Can you confirm success citing fingernails?

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Darn phone.  I meant "cutting".

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[gene stoner]

Great thread.  I'd like to see plastic bottles.  I often use them for various purposes tho admittedly I use the blade when cutting them to size. 

I'd also like to see candle wicks.  Trimming them is always best done with sharp scissors. 

Gauze, drinking straw, and food packing thats foil lined.   

I have both types of scissors and confirm what u have tested above. I've used the scissors on paracord, thin plastic bags, tapes and paper and coffee mix sachets and medicine packaging. This mostly what I cut it with and prefer the Vic over Wenger's self sharpening one. This is one of the reasons why the 65mm Executive 81 never gets used.

Have used those on Style PS and Squirt as well and still prefer Vic for its thinner width profile. Makes for more accurate and precise cutting...


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Personally it's not enough for me to to drop my Pocket tool chest in favor a 58mm platform.  I need more data before I do that so today I'll continue to carry both tools looking for stuff to cut. I really would like some testing ideas from you folks so let me know what you think would make a good comparison test.

Tried fabric or clothing?


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Great suggestions thank you guys.

 Let's start the day off with aluminum cans and a an old polo shirt.

Neither scissors preformed perfectly on the shirt several cuts had to be repeated by both scissors I would rate both scissors performance as fair to good. I well try to cut other fabrics to test but for now this is all I have.

Now let's try some aluminum cans. I couldn't find any significant difference in performance between the two. They both left an equally sharp edge on the cans.
After this test I tested for sharpness on papper and both scissors stayed sharp after this test.

[gene stoner]

Let's cut some more stuff.
A plastic bottle, dental floss, cotton t-shirt and a maxi pad.

The plastic bottle was no challenge for earthier tool both performed just fine as they also did with the floss.

The maxi pad was also not a cutting problem for either tool. However the leaf spring on the Vic got pushed out from under the tool more then once so slight advantage to the Wenger on that one.

The cotton t-shirt was a problem sometimes for the Vic. The thin material folded between the blades a couple of times. But in my opinion any deficiency of eather tool is not enough to say one is better then the other.

[Aloha]

Very nice little performers.  Not too surprised with the fabric giving them a bit of problem.   

[gene stoner]

So let's try cutting shapes and patterns in paper and cardboard.
I started off by cutting out a star pattern from paper that was no challenge for either tool so I moved on to cardboard.
Neither scissors really shined in this test neither scissors is designed for this kind of extended use. The only problem I experienced where. The thin handle on the Wenger made a hot spot on my thumb from the repeated heaver pressure to cut through the cardboard. The Vic's only problem was the small size of the 58mm in my hands felt it was harder to control.

Overall they both performed just fine.

[gene stoner]

Unless I can find a test that I feel changes my opinion. At this point I would have to give the Vic an A and the Wenger an -A maybe a +B. With the Wenger thin plastic like what you would find on many packages now days is more difficult and required more patience then with the Vic which most of the time would cut with the first time.

Me personally though is lm hanging on to my 65mm. For two reasons. First I really like the size. You may think 7mm doesn't make a difference but in my hands it does. Secondly I really like the tool selection on the Pocket tool chest. For me these two reasons out weigh any of the slight deficiency in the scissors.

I would also like to point out that all this test really is is the rambling of a guy that's​ had way to much spare time on his hand the last few days so by all means don't accept it as anything "scientific".

Thanks to everyone who gave suggestions and like always testing SAK's is fun.

[firiki]

... The thin handle on the Wenger Ade a hot spot on my thumb from the repeated heaver pressure to cut through the cardboard. The Vic's only problem was the small size of the 58mm in my hands felt it was harder to control.
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Try using the Wenger upside down (pulling lever with index and middle finger instead of pushing with the thumb) and extending the nail file on the Vic

[FolderBeholder]

GS, I really liked all the testing you did.
I went ahead and found a gently used Pocket Tool Chest and it is inbound.  I just want to try one for myself.  It actually has a light so I hope it's the same one.  6 tools that come out, so hopefully it's the same.

[smiller43147]

A good test would be nylon wire ties.

[smiller43147]

Hey, good idea smiller43147! 

I guess I'll try it myself.

Notice the wire tie is only cut once.  I gave up on the Vic scissors after they just spit out the wire tie 6 or 7 times without cutting them.

Winner, clearly the Wenger!

[Mattexian]

One task I've found that the Wenger scissors excel at, but the Victorinox would fail, is pulling a broken key out of a hotel room lock.  I used that more than once as a nighsmurfchman, and saved the hotel from needing to call out their maintanence guy or a locksmith.  Now it wouldn't get much use, as most hotels use an electronic card-key for their rooms.

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[Don Pablo]

Its great to see everyone testing and documenting SAK-y stuff.