Wenger Alinghi

[Dunc]

I really really really want a Wenger Alinghi  I have emailed Tim and he quickly got back to me with a price  ;D just got to save up though  Anyway I've read Defs excellent review at SOSAK online , I've visited Wengers website and watched the advert . Is there going to be room in my pockets and belt for the Swisstool aswell 
  I do have a question ,whats the blade like for sharpening on a Sharpmaker ? Victorinox blades are spot on for the angle on the sharpmaker but I dont know about the Wengers .I would be dissapointed if I couldnt get the angle on the serrations .

Dunc

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I've got diamond stones for my sharpmaker

If you like, if you get one I can reprofile the edge for you to suit your sharpmaker

[Dunc]

I've got diamond stones for my sharpmaker

If you like, if you get one I can reprofile the edge for you to suit your sharpmaker

Thanks for the Offer Micky  ;D I can reprofile but was hoping I wouldnt have to , I kind of like leaving things how the manufactorer ment them to be , guess thats why I'm not into modding .

Dunc

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Sorry that sounded like I was bragging,  I'm not I'm just trying to stay awake and having lots and lots of brain fade moments ;D

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I've got diamond stones for my sharpmaker

If you like, if you get one I can reprofile the edge for you to suit your sharpmaker

Thanks for the Offer Micky  ;D I can reprofile but was hoping I wouldnt have to , I kind of like leaving things how the manufactorer ment them to be , guess thats why I'm not into modding .

Dunc

Me too, I prefere to leave things stock as well, well if I can ;D

[Dunc]

Sorry that sounded like I was bragging,  I'm not I'm just trying to stay awake and having lots and lots of brain fade moments ;D

Thats ok I didnt take it the wrong way 

Just thought , I forgot to ask Tim about a sheath .

Dunc

[Grant Lamontagne]

The Alinghi comes with a sheath, so you are safe there.

I also can't comment on it's compatibility with the Sharpmaker as I don't have one of those.  I can however say that I just came home from a trip to the woods for a few days, and that the Alinghi, being the only full sized tool I brought (I didn't bring the Crunch after all for those keeping track!) I found it was ill equipped for the woods.

First, there is no saw, which I believe I mentioned in the article, and second, the partially serrated blade and lack of a plain blade made it almost impossible to use a fire steel with any success.

Of course, spending as much time as you do on boats, I would imagine that the Alinghi may be better suited to your uses than mine.  I bought mine for use in my kayak mostly, and I should have seen the limitations before I took it into the woods.  Fortunately, it wasn't a life or death kind of thing, or even a survival or camping type weekend.  If it was, I probably would have spent more time choosing.

But then I doubt the Alinghi team is concerned about being shipwrecked and ending up on a deserted island- given the investment involved in that ship I am certain it's tracked every minute of every day whether it's in the water or not!  I imagine it would still be a kick for them if they were practicing and something went wrong, and the guys who came out to save them also carried Alinghis though!

Def

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Sorry that sounded like I was bragging,  I'm not I'm just trying to stay awake and having lots and lots of brain fade moments ;D

Thats ok I didnt take it the wrong way 

That's ok then

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

First, there is no saw, which I believe I mentioned in the article, and second, the partially serrated blade and lack of a plain blade made it almost impossible to use a fire steel with any success.

Of course, spending as much time as you do on boats, I would imagine that the Alinghi may be better suited to your uses than mine.  I bought mine for use in my kayak mostly, and I should have seen the limitations before I took it into the woods.  Fortunately, it wasn't a life or death kind of thing, or even a survival or camping type weekend.  If it was, I probably would have spent more time choosing.

Def

The lack of a saw and the serations are it's only real faults in my eyes (asides frome it's size ;D)

Couldn't you use the spine on the fire steel, or is it rounded off

[Benner]

First, there is no saw, which I believe I mentioned in the article, and second, the partially serrated blade and lack of a plain blade made it almost impossible to use a fire steel with any success.

Of course, spending as much time as you do on boats, I would imagine that the Alinghi may be better suited to your uses than mine.  I bought mine for use in my kayak mostly, and I should have seen the limitations before I took it into the woods.  Fortunately, it wasn't a life or death kind of thing, or even a survival or camping type weekend.  If it was, I probably would have spent more time choosing.

Def

The lack of a saw and the serations are it's only real faults in my eyes (asides frome it's size ;D)

And the lack of an end mounted phillips.  The centre mounted is just useless in my eyes.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

But you do get a lot of leverage with that, even if it is at the cost of reach

[Benner]

But you do get a lot of leverage with that, even if it is at the cost of reach

If it really locks in place then I would agree.  If it's like a SAK though, I always worry about slipping off.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

But you do get a lot of leverage with that, even if it is at the cost of reach

If it really locks in place then I would agree.  If it's like a SAK though, I always worry about slipping off.

Guess were gona have to wait for def to chip in on that one

[Grant Lamontagne]

The center mounted ones don't lock unfortunately, but if you check out my review, and are lucky enough to have a SwissGrip, the adaptor fits perfectly on the flathead, and that locks:

http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=232&Itemid=35

I agree that the lack of wood saw and the partial serrations are drawbacks for a woods knife, but it's not meant as a woods knife.  If we had a yachtsman in here, he'd probably say that the wood saw was wasted space, and that a plain edged knife was useless against rope!

Def

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

The center mounted ones don't lock unfortunately, but if you check out my review, and are lucky enough to have a SwissGrip, the adaptor fits perfectly on the flathead, and that locks:

http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=232&Itemid=35

I agree that the lack of wood saw and the partial serrations are drawbacks for a woods knife, but it's not meant as a woods knife.  If we had a yachtsman in here, he'd probably say that the wood saw was wasted space, and that a plain edged knife was useless against rope!

Def

But can you use that spine of the blade on the fire steel?? or is it rounded of

[Grant Lamontagne]

I tried and it doesn't seem to work too well- neither does the awl or the marlin spike.

The awl on Victorinox models works though, as it's sharpened somewhat.

Def

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I tried and it doesn't seem to work too well- neither does the awl or the marlin spike.

The awl on Victorinox models works though, as it's sharpened somewhat.

Def

It is a tad ain't it ;D

[Grant Lamontagne]

Yup, and it works well.  I am certain if the poo was hitting the fan, and I was forced into a survival situation with the Alinghi, like most of us I would make do with whatever I had, and I'd make it work, but it's just not optimized for woods use.

Def

[Leatherman123]

I think the Alinghi would work great for duncs job.

[J-sews]

Are the Alinghi pliers spring loaded?

[Grant Lamontagne]

Yup. 

I imagine the mechanism is virtually identical to the one found on the scissors of the Ranger 172 that you have.

Def

[J-sews]

Yup. 

I imagine the mechanism is virtually identical to the one found on the scissors of the Ranger 172 that you have.

Def

Thanks. I'd suspected as much, but wasn't sure.

Wenger 172 pic:

[J-sews]

Another question:
What exactly is  the marlin-shackle-spike-opener intended to be used for?

[Grant Lamontagne]

Opening shackles and spiking marlins of course.....   

Seriously, having some kind of levering device is handy for opening shackles, which have a wingnut- like closure on the end:



Using the large hole in the shackle opener like a wrench you can open them fairly easily.

As for the marlin spike, I don't know why it's called that, but basically it's like a large sewing needle for fancy knot tying stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlinspike

Def

[J-sews]

Okay, I can see the shackle-opener function might come in handy if there a lot of shackles nearby.

But the marlin spike? I wonder how often that ever really gets used?

[Grant Lamontagne]

Gotta do something with those long lonely nights at sea....

Def

[Dunc]

A marlin spike is used for tying and untying certain knots . Can be used for untying knots that have tightened under tension . To be honest I dont know anyone who uses a marlin spike or would really know how to use one ( myself included ) .
   It has other uses and makes a good poky stick 

     The shackle wrench is something I use and is very handy , but only if you use shackles I suppose .I Like the tape measure on the Alinghi .




Dunc

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

How can a pirate not know how to use the marlin spike ;D

[Dunc]

How can a pirate not know how to use the marlin spike ;D

 But us pirates use it for spiking marlins and poking people /ninja's at the end of the plank .

Dunc

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

How can a pirate not know how to use the marlin spike ;D

 But us pirates use it for spiking marlins and poking people /ninja's at the end of the plank .

Dunc

We don't mind walking the plank, we've hidden our bamboo breathing tube, somewhere dark and tight