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Is a gutting blade really necessary?

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us Offline SMK

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Is a gutting blade really necessary?
on: March 02, 2011, 03:39:59 AM
Hey guys, sorry if this has been discussed before.
Anyways, I'm looking to buy a swiss army knife in the next few days, with price not being much of an issue (i have enough saved up to afford any model I want, users anyway), and it will be primarily for outdoor use, but still pocketable so i can carry it if needed. I like the victorinox Oht plain edge, however, the wenger ranger 58 appeals to me because it includes a gutting blade (i know neither is ideal, but i would like to know). some have complained that the ranger is too thick and feels cheap, so i was wondering if the gutting blade is all that important and if i can get by relatively speaking with the main blade. Thanks

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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 03:52:34 AM
What kind of outdoor use?  Did you think you might use the gutting blade for hunting?

The Wenger's do feel king of thick, some people like that.  I don't know that they feel cheap though.  I use my 172 a lot and it feels good to me, but I wish it was a bit thinner, I'm looking for a model 1 layer smaller and non evo handles. The Mike Horn ranger is Really Thick, but still seems very nice, maybe because with the pliers you expect it to be thicker.

I like the feel of the new Vic Dual Density scales, so why not look at a new OH Fireman PE, you have thinscales and a gutting/safety blade.  BUT then replace the scales with DD scales (you'll have to buy something like th DD nomad and then swap the scales).  then you have nice knife.  I'm not sure why they have not released a factor Fireman model with DD scales.  If you decide you can live without the gutting blade, then go for the OH Forester with DD scales, unless you really need that toothpick and tweezers.

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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #2 on: March 02, 2011, 04:15:08 AM
wow i can't believe I didn't make the connection that the large rescue blade is a bigger gutting blade. :oops: If it had a philips instead of the corkscrew it would be perfect
edit: i might just go with the ranger as i have bigger hands with very long fingers, i'm just worried as to how pocketable it may be.
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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #3 on: March 02, 2011, 06:08:12 AM
Seems to me that plenty of effective gutting has been and is being done without dedicated gutting blades. I can't think of much that one can do with a gutting blade that can't be done with a good knife. I think the gutting blade just reduces the amount of skill and care required. Nothing wrong with making things more foolproof I suppose, but is it necessary?

How much need do you have for it? That's the question.

I say get that OHT.  :tu:
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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #4 on: March 02, 2011, 01:28:18 PM
Professionally speaking.. ::)

The only things preferable in a "gutting" blade are--No point to accidentally pierce the bowel wall and curved shape to help hold slippery things to the cutting edge.

Aside from that, 'taint nothing special about a gutting blade (although I suspect marketing would object to the label  "Rescue/Gutting blade")

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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 01:46:56 PM
I'd not call the Wenger cheap feeling at all, but it does have very thick scales, too think for pocket carry IMO.  In fact I ended up downsizing from a Wenger 78 to a Vic Forrester. 

Here's a great article showing a Ranger 78 (my old one as it happens  :D) side-by-side with a Vic OHT.

http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=474&Itemid=35
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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 09:59:59 PM
Scratch that I want a one handed forester. My only question is how are the serrations for edc?
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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #7 on: March 02, 2011, 11:29:19 PM
Sorry to say mine is a two handed plain blade and I don't own a OHO Vic.  From what I hear most folks really like them and plenty are people's EDC.  I'm sure someone else can chip in with their thoughts. :)
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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #8 on: March 02, 2011, 11:44:17 PM
I personally find the gutting/rescue blades very useful. They are less intimidating and more user friendly. They are also very useful for cutting strapping and rope as they both hold and cut.
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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 01:11:38 AM
Quote from: SMK on March 02, 2011, 09:59:59 PM
Scratch that I want a one handed forester. My only question is how are the serrations for edc?
Great choice, the serrations make the knife very flexible, and with them being upfront I find the blade is really quite versatile with cutting chores both big and small.

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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #10 on: March 03, 2011, 02:28:24 AM
Just placed the order! :tool:

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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #11 on: March 10, 2011, 08:51:19 PM
and it just came

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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #12 on: March 10, 2011, 08:52:36 PM
Happy with it?
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Re: Is a gutting blade really necessary?
Reply #13 on: March 10, 2011, 09:04:17 PM
yeah it is quite easy to open one handed and i find it pretty easy to close one handed "i am a righty". haven't really run into anything to use it for yet though
Edit: It's razor sharp!. It cut through very thin paper effortlessly. Even the serrations.
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