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Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster

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Doing a little research on what makes a diver's watch, a diver's watch then I ran across the ISO 6425  :cheers:

ISO 6425 divers' watches standard

The standards and features for diving watches are regulated by the ISO 6425 - Divers' watches international standard. ISO 6425 defines such watches as: A watch designed to withstand diving in water at depths of at least 100 m and possessing a system to control the time. Diving watches are tested in static or still water under 125% of the rated (water)pressure, thus a watch with a 200 meter rating will be water resistant if it is stationary and under 250 meters of static water. The testing of the water resistance is fundamentally different from non-dive watches, because every watch has to be fully tested.

ISO 6425 water resistance testing of a diver's watch consists of:

    * Reliability under water. The watches under test shall be immersed in water to a depth of 30 cm ± 2 cm for 50 hours at 18 °C to 25 °C and all the mechanisms shall still function correctly. The condensation test shall be carried out before and after this test to ensure that the result is related to the above test.
    * Condensation test. The watch shall be placed on a heated plate at a temperature between 40 °C and 45 °C until the watch has reached the temperature of the heated plate (in practice, a heating time of 10 minutes to 20 minutes, depending on the type of watch, will be sufficient). A drop of water, at a temperature of 18 °C to 25 °C shall be placed on the glass of the watch. After about 1 minute, the glass shall be wiped with a dry rag. Any watch which has condensation on the interior surface of the glass shall be eliminated.
    * Resistance of crowns and other setting devices to an external force. The watches under test shall be subjected to an overpressure in water of 125% of the rated pressure/10 bar for 10 minutes and to an external force of 5 N perpendicular to the crown and pusher buttons (if any). The condensation test shall be carried out before and after this test to ensure that the result is related to the above test.
    * Water-tightness and resistance at a water overpressure. The watches under test shall be immersed in water contained in a suitable vessel. Then an overpressure of 125% of the rated pressure shall be applied within 1 minute and maintained for 2 hours. Subsequently the overpressure shall be reduced to 0.3 bar within 1 minute and maintained at this pressure for 1 hour. The watches shall then be removed from the water and dried with a rag. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
    * Resistance to thermal shock. Immersion of the watch in 30 cm ± 2 cm of water at the following temperatures for 10 minutes each, 40 °C, 5 °C and 40 °C again. The time of transition from one immersion to the other shall not exceed 1 min. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
    * An optional test originating from the ISO 2281 tests (but not required for obtaining ISO 6425 approval) is exposing the watch to an overpressure of 2 bar. The watch shall show no air-flow exceeding 50 μg/min.

Except the thermal shock resistance test all further ISO 6425 testing should be conducted at 18 °C to 25 °C temperature. Regarding pressure ISO 6425 defines: 1 bar = 105 Pa = 105 N/m2. The required 125% test pressure provides a safety margin against dynamic pressure increase events, water density variations (seawater is 2 to 5% denser than freshwater) and degradation of the seals.

Movement induced dynamic pressure increase is sometimes the subject of urban myths and marketing arguments for diver's watches with high water resistance ratings. When a diver makes a fast swimming movement of 10 m/s (32.8 ft/s) (the best competitive swimmers and finswimmers do not move their hands nor swim that fast[1]) physics dictates that the diver generates a dynamic pressure of 0.5 bar or the equivalent of 5 meters of additional water depth.[2]

Besides water resistance standards to a minimum of 100 metres (330 ft) depth rating ISO 6425 also provides minimum requirements for mechanical diver's watches (quartz and digital watches have slightly differing readability requirements) such as:[3]

    * The presence of a time-preselecting device, for example a unidirectional rotating bezel or a digital display. Such a device shall be protected against inadvertent rotation or wrong manipulation. If it is a rotating bezel, it shall have a minute scale going up to 60 min. The markings indicating every 5 min shall be clearly indicated. The markings on the dial, if existing, shall be coordinated with those of the preselecting device and shall be clearly visible. If the preselecting device is a digital display, it shall be clearly visible.
    * The following items of the watch shall be legible at a distance of 25 cm (9.8 in) in the dark:
          o time (the minute hand shall be clearly distinguishable from the hour hand);
          o set time of the time-preselecting device;
          o indication that the watch is running (This is usually indicated by a running second hand with a luminous tip or tail.);
          o in the case of battery-powered watches, a battery end-of-life indication.
    * The presence of an indication that the watch is running in total darkness. This is usually indicated by a running second hand with a luminous tip or tail.
    * Magnetic resistance. This is tested by 3 expositions to a direct current magnetic field of 4,800 A/m. The watch must keep its accuracy to +/- 30 seconds/day as measured before the test despite the magnetic field.
    * Shock resistance. This is tested by two shocks (one on the 9 o'clock side, and one to the crystal and perpendicular to the face). The shock is usually delivered by a hard plastic hammer mounted as a pendulum, so as to deliver a measured amount of energy, specifically, a 3 kg hammer with an impact velocity of 4.43 m/s. The change in rate allowed is +/- 60 seconds/day.
    * Resistance to salty water. The watches under test shall be put in a 30 g/l NaCl (sodium chloride) solution and kept there for 24 hours at 18 °C to 25 °C. This test water solution has salinity comparable to normal seawater. After this test, the case and accessories shall be examined for any possible changes. Moving parts, particularly the rotating bezel, shall be checked for correct functioning.
    * Resistance of attachments to an external force (strap/band solidity). This is tested by applying a force of 200 N (45 lbf) to each springbar (or attaching point) in opposite directions with no damage to the watch of attachment point. The bracelet of the watch being tested shall be closed.
    * Marking. Watches conforming to ISO 6425 are marked with the word DIVER’S WATCH L M or DIVER'S L M to distinguish diving watches from look a like watches that are not suitable for actual scuba diving. The letter L indicates the diving depth, in metres, guaranteed by the manufacturer.


us Offline fly104857

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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #1 on: March 12, 2011, 03:16:26 AM
I Have the "Black" Monster. Its a great watch with awsome Lume. Just one of my many, many watches. I get tired of them and like to switch them out....(kinda like my tools)


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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #2 on: March 12, 2011, 03:35:23 AM
Got to love the Monster.  My OM is still going strong, even after a few years of use, and in some case, abuse.  I'm pretty hard on watches, but mine still looks almost new.

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ca Offline NaturalMystic

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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #3 on: March 12, 2011, 07:34:41 AM
I plan to buy an OM soon also. My first Seiko purchase was a Baby/Neo/Mini Monster model SNZF53K1. The lume on these is AWESOME!!



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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #4 on: March 13, 2011, 03:59:44 PM
hey Natural, I love that watch. If ever intrested in trading or selling....plz keep me in mind.


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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #5 on: March 14, 2011, 03:24:32 AM
I wish I would have gotten my OM when I first read about it from Grant (the one time I should have listened to you).

For the simple fact it would have saved me about $700.00 in other watches that I bought. I will get out my
Chase Durer to wear, walk past the OM setting on the shelf and put it on instead.

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Very seldom does any other watch get wrist time except for a Luminox that I wear every night to bed.
(lighter weight and easier to read in the wee hours of the morning).



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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #6 on: March 15, 2011, 07:04:21 PM
They are great... solid and dependable watches :tu:

I have a BM I wear a lot and it mostly resides on a big Watchadoo brushed steel band which makes it even heavier, but looks the business.
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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #7 on: April 01, 2011, 09:59:26 AM
hey Natural, I love that watch. If ever intrested in trading or selling....plz keep me in mind.

Hey fly, thanks, it's a sweet watch! I won't be trading this anytime soon, if at all, but you can get them for about $160 - $180US at either Long Island Watch or Creation Watches.
Nigel


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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 03:41:49 AM
Once again I am impressed with this OM. Today while getting out of my truck had my OM in my hand and not on my arm
(I know DUH) so I dropped it about three foot on the blacktop in the parking lot. :ahhh

Watching it hit the ground on its side I was thinking "Great I just cracked/broke my crystal."  picking it up expecting the worst I was pleasantly surprised not only to find the crystal in perfect condition but no scratched and dents in the side it landed on.

I think I said this before but it is worth saying again. "I would actually pay MSRP on this watch (it is that good) and if you don't know how cheap I am just ask Def he can tell you. :cheers:


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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #9 on: May 12, 2011, 03:59:57 AM
How much damage was there to the parking lot?   >:D

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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #10 on: May 12, 2011, 05:14:50 AM
"....and possessing a system to control the time...."

Wait, so diving watches come with Flux Capacitors? No wonder they cost so much.....


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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #11 on: May 12, 2011, 10:11:57 PM
How much damage was there to the parking lot?   >:D

Def

Luckily, I had a 20lb bag of instant patch in the back of my truck. (my ex wife was very heavy) so I was able to fix it before anyone saw it. ::)


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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #12 on: July 28, 2011, 01:27:52 AM
All you ever wanted to know about the Monster and its movement:

http://www.thepurists.com/watch/features/8ohms/7s26/
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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #13 on: October 20, 2016, 02:03:55 AM
Another good reference unearthed and moved to the watch forum.  :D

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Re: Now I am even more impressed with the Orange Monster
Reply #14 on: October 20, 2016, 12:53:52 PM
"unearthed"...





 

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