I just bought both a Swisschamp and a Spirit. They should be here monday. I have owned both in the past, as well as a champion plus that I bought from Amazon. The Champion was great, but if I'm going to carry a fat SAK, it is going in a pouch anyway, and if that is the case I want the pliers that the Swisschamp has. For every day tasks, I rarely need a plier based MT, but I carry one just because it's second nature. Honestly, all I really ever need is a good SAK. The tools contained in most(scissors most of all) handle all my needs. If I run into anything heavy, I always have a good plier based MT in my bag, and that's never very far from me.