Any Love for the 84/91mm Vic Combo Tool

theonew · **on:** August 29, 2011, 07:59:06 AM

I got my first 84mm Vic last week, a Waiter model. I really like this knife a lot. It's a great tool to have in your pocket when you're making dinner and having drinks with friends, which is one of my favorite pastimes. It's also my first experience with the combo tool and I have to say I'm very impressed with it. What surprised me the most was how effective it is on phillips screws. It's a little awkward but gets the job done with some finesse. It's definitely a "jack of all trades, master of none" and is right on the edge of being useable as a can opener, but its pretty impressive how much functionality the design packs into one small implement. I'm diggin' the combo tool, anyone else?

Chako · **Reply #1 on:** August 29, 2011, 08:05:32 AM

I EDCed a Recruit for a month or so. I liked it very much. Does that count.

enki_ck · **Reply #2 on:** August 29, 2011, 03:06:42 PM

I love it, I wish more models came with it.

kirk13 · **Reply #3 on:** August 29, 2011, 05:19:11 PM

The combo tool is a handy little tool,Adds a lot of clout while using very little space.Love my DofEs,Compacts and Mechanic Jnrs

Gareth · **Reply #4 on:** August 29, 2011, 07:46:58 PM

Love it. My first Vic was a Waiter.

http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=399&Itemid=35

theonew · **Reply #5 on:** August 31, 2011, 02:08:35 AM

Quote from: Gareth on August 29, 2011, 07:46:58 PM

http://www.sosakonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=399&Itemid=35

Now that's some Combo Tool love

It's definitely a light use screwdriver, being as thin as it is.

Might be cool if Vic made something similar which was a whole layer wide, then you could have a sturdy combo tool across from, for instance, a magnifying glass

I'm loving the waiter

ironraven · **Reply #6 on:** August 31, 2011, 03:35:10 AM

Well, once upon a time, they used a standard bottle opener- the combo tool wasn't in existence yet. I think a 91mm version of the Apprentice using with the bottle opener would be the bomb, honestly.

KiwiMark · **Reply #7 on:** August 31, 2011, 05:36:26 AM

I love the standard pry tool which can also be used as a flat screwdriver. In the last 11 years of EDC I have even opened 2 or 3 bottles with it. I also like the standard can opener which I find easy to use and does a very clean & safe job (no ragged edges) on the can.
The combo tool seems to be an inferior version of the pry tool & can opener - but when you want to make something useful that is also smaller & slimmer then what can you do? It seems to me that the combo tool is a pretty clever compromise even if it is a lighter duty pry tool than the standard one and not as good a can opener. At least if you are camping and have a can with tasty food inside then the combo tool CAN open it - that is the most important thing! And if you are in a rescue situation with some Stella Artois trapped in a bottle then you can free it, saving the day! You can pry to some degree and at least wont need to risk breaking the tip off your blade.

I don't currently have a SAK with a combo tool, until my Bantam arrives (thanks to Jackknife on SOSAK) anyway. The Bantam is a good example of a SAK that really does benefit greatly from the combo tool - when you go that small & slim then saving a layer is VERY noticeable.

Styerman · **Reply #8 on:** August 31, 2011, 05:50:37 PM

Not a fan , tried it for a bit , but prefer the dedicated can/caplifter .

Chris

Rahmed · **Reply #9 on:** August 31, 2011, 09:14:20 PM

Quote from: Gareth on August 29, 2011, 07:46:58 PM

Love it. My first Vic was a Waiter.

Love it too

And Waiters I buy for modding

edit: anyone tried to use combotool in 93mm Alox

Stirling3749 · **Reply #10 on:** August 31, 2011, 10:27:06 PM

The Compact was the first SAK I bought. I've used that little combo tool for all kinds of things, even some light prying.
Opens beer bottles with ease too.

theonew · **Reply #11 on:** September 01, 2011, 09:26:41 AM

Now that I know how much I like the combo tool, the Vic Compact is looking mighty appealing

Hey Modders, is it possible to swap an awl for the hook? While I'm not a hook hater, I would much prefer an awl instead, though I believe this is one of the hooks with a file, which is a definite plus, I'd still much prefer a pokey, drilly thing.

Rahmed · **Reply #12 on:** September 01, 2011, 09:43:37 AM

It is technically possible, but the snap of scissors will be veryvery poor...

theonew · **Reply #13 on:** September 01, 2011, 09:51:23 AM

Wow, thanks for the quick reply

Hmmm, I could probably live with that

Stirling3749 · **Reply #14 on:** September 01, 2011, 10:01:21 AM

I believe the awl is thinner than the hook as well so there would be a slight gap but I don't see how that would much affect the functionality of the tool.

Reinier · **Reply #15 on:** September 01, 2011, 10:21:02 AM

Maybe you could grind the hook into an awl

kirk13 · **Reply #16 on:** September 01, 2011, 10:49:55 AM

I actually am learning to love the hook!I usually have a Compct or a DofE with me when I go grocery shopping.The hook is a big help if I need to carry stuff in plastic bags!

sliberman · **Reply #17 on:** October 02, 2011, 06:25:48 PM

Quote from: theonew on August 29, 2011, 07:59:06 AM

I got my first 84mm Vic last week, a Waiter model. I really like this knife a lot. It's a great tool to have in your pocket when you're making dinner and having drinks with friends, which is one of my favorite pastimes. It's also my first experience with the combo tool and I have to say I'm very impressed with it. What surprised me the most was how effective it is on phillips screws. It's a little awkward but gets the job done with some finesse. It's definitely a "jack of all trades, master of none" and is right on the edge of being useable as a can opener, but its pretty impressive how much functionality the design packs into one small implement. I'm diggin' the combo tool, anyone else?

I collect SAKs with the Combo tool.
I have compiled a list of such Victorinox SAKs. Any comments/corrections/additions are most welcome:
(updated October 2, 2011)

84mm:
My First Victorinox
My First Victorinox Plus (+wood saw)
Wenger Premier (made by Vic)
Bantam [Celidor, Alox: smooth, ribbed, checkered]
Apprentice (Bantam +philips)
Waiter (Bantam +corkscrew)
Lumberjack (Bantam +woodsaw) [Celidor, Alox: smooth, ribbed, checkered]
Voyageur Alox (Bantam +scissors) [some models have regular cap lifter]
Original Golfer (Bantam +scissors +corkscrew +nailfile long or regular)

91mm:
Waiter Plus
Mechanic Jr (2-layer: combo + large blade + pliers; Celidor black and red)
Special Mechanic (Meyer Binding Pliers Tool)
Lumberjack w/ corkscrew (needs confirmation)
Scientist
Yeoman (Scientist +scissors)
Original Golfer 91mm [similar to Compact]
Compact
Time Keeper (Compact +analog watch)
Duke of Edinburgh (Compact -corkscrew +philips +round tip blade)
Trail Guide (Compact +metal saw/file) [also sold by Malboro Unlimited catalog]
SwissChamp XXLT
SwissChamp XAVT

Mods:
Huntsman Slim (Compact +wood saw)

SwissBianco Specials:
- 91mm Lumberjack Plus w/ Phillips
- 91mm Yeoman
- 91mm Yeoman Mechanic
- 91mm CyberYeoman

93mm:
None

108mm:
GAK
GAK-2 (GAK +match-strike/nail file strip on saw)
Safari Trooper (Civilian GAK, Olive scales)
Safari Summit (Trooper with Red scales)
Safari Hunter (Trooper +gutting blade) [serrated or plain blade, scales: Red, Olive, Stag, imitation Stag]
Safari Pathfinder (Summit -corkscrew -awl)
Fireman (Safari Hunter with serrated gutting blade, white fireman symbol on red scales)
Mauser (GAK + clippoint blade)
Walther (Mauser with black nylon scales)

111mm:
Equestrian
Hunter
WorkChamp XL

Gareth · **Reply #18 on:** October 02, 2011, 06:33:15 PM

While I've very flattered that my 'Huntsman Slim' mod has made your list it was, so far as I know, never a production piece. That aside it seems a very comprehensive list to me and I certainly can't think of anything missing.

Welcome to the forum.

sliberman · **Reply #19 on:** October 02, 2011, 06:47:58 PM

Quote from: Gareth on October 02, 2011, 06:33:15 PM

While I've very flattered that my 'Huntsman Slim' mod has made your list it was, so far as I know, never a production piece. That aside it seems a very comprehensive list to me and I certainly can't think of anything missing.

Welcome to the forum.

Thanks!
I saw the "Slim" at the SOSAK web site. I will update my list and put it under a "Mod" classification.

I could not find an official listing at the SAKWiki site.

jazzbass · **Reply #20 on:** October 02, 2011, 09:02:43 PM

Quote from: sliberman on October 02, 2011, 06:25:48 PM

91mm:
Mechanic Jr (2-layer: combo + large blade + pliers; Celidor black and red)
Special Mechanic (Meyer Binding Pliers Tool)
Lumberjack w/ corkscrew (needs confirmation)

The first two (Mechanic Jr and Special Mechanic) are the same knife. The knife doesn't actually have a *real* Victorinox marketing name that I know of, the ones made were special runs for either Radio Shack in the mid 1990s (sold under their TechLine name) or Meyer (late 2000s). In both cases they have the same tool config (blade, combo, pliers, phillips), the only difference the Techline versions have plus scales and Meyer versions do not.

Regarding the Lumberjack, I think I gave you this one on the SOSAK board. What confirmation do you need? Whether they exist, or whether they're 91mm? They do exist (I have one) and they are 91mm. HTH.

tattoosteve99 · **Reply #21 on:** October 02, 2011, 09:09:50 PM

I will find out if I like them soon enough. I have some combo tools coming to be put in mods.

sliberman · **Reply #22 on:** October 02, 2011, 10:45:47 PM

Quote from: jazzbass on October 02, 2011, 09:02:43 PM

Quote from: sliberman on October 02, 2011, 06:25:48 PM
91mm:
Mechanic Jr (2-layer: combo + large blade + pliers; Celidor black and red)
Special Mechanic (Meyer Binding Pliers Tool)
Lumberjack w/ corkscrew (needs confirmation)

The first two (Mechanic Jr and Special Mechanic) are the same knife. The knife doesn't actually have a *real* Victorinox marketing name that I know of, the ones made were special runs for either Radio Shack in the mid 1990s (sold under their TechLine name) or Meyer (late 2000s). In both cases they have the same tool config (blade, combo, pliers, phillips), the only difference the Techline versions have plus scales and Meyer versions do not.

Regarding the Lumberjack, I think I gave you this one on the SOSAK board. What confirmation do you need? Whether they exist, or whether they're 91mm? They do exist (I have one) and they are 91mm. HTH.

Yes, I added the 91mm Lumberjack to the list according to your post on the SOSAK board.
The confirmation note I have there is regarding the 91mm Lumberjack being a regular Victorinox product,
as opposed to a special order or mod.
Since it has a corkscrew, I assume that it has Celidor scales, maybe with tweezers and toothpick.

SAKWiki.com does not have a Lumberjack listed under the 91mm knives. Under the 84mm Lumberjack entry, there is a reference to a 91mm Big Lumberjack with philips screwdriver on the back, as a special run for Swiss Bianco. It is in my list in the Swiss Bianco section.

I could not find any Lumberjack (84mm or 91mm) on the Victorinox catalogs I have (2001, 2003, 2006, 2011). I know the 84mm exists, I have two 84mm Ecoline Lumberjacks.

jazzbass · **Reply #23 on:** October 03, 2011, 06:38:52 AM

Wasn't in a catalog, but definitely a factory knife from Victorinox. More info from one of the resident experts here: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,21919.msg450380.html#msg450380

macabee · **Reply #24 on:** October 03, 2011, 12:13:45 PM

I also have the Compact and the DofE. Whilst I have not yet used the combo tool, I shall try it on a can soon enough, maybe wearing a kevlar glove....

Cheers

sliberman · **Reply #25 on:** October 03, 2011, 02:50:48 PM

Quote from: jazzbass on October 03, 2011, 06:38:52 AM

Wasn't in a catalog, but definitely a factory knife from Victorinox. More info from one of the resident experts here: http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,21919.msg450380.html#msg450380

Excellent reference. Thanks!

Mike 56 · **Reply #26 on:** October 03, 2011, 05:04:34 PM

Combo tool?

Mike

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