Date the Champion

[GigaHz]

[GigaHz]

[GigaHz]

[Grant Lamontagne]

If I recall correctly, and there's every chance I don't, I believe the exposed rivets and bail were only together for a very short time in the early 60 ' s?

Def

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[mrynnr]

Beautiful!

[GigaHz]

[GigaHz]

[jazzbass]

c. 1960-61:


c. 1956-58


c. 1971-72

[HarleyXJGuy]

I would tatally date her.

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[ColoSwiss]

Interesting knives.

[GigaHz]

60's?

[Barry Rowland]

I love it!  That knife is a beautiful piece of history.  If only it could speak, I'd love to hear some of its tales....

[Luna Knife]

the stories that knife could tell if it could talk

[jazzbass]

Early to mid 1960s, say 1963-1965.

[J Mackrel Jones]

The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual by Young (2011) has the rivets disappearing under the scales in 1961 and the Vic reamer changing from quarter-round to rectangular in cross-section that same year so GigaHz's Champion would be made sometime during that transition year of 1961.

[tjfarrington2000]

The Swiss Army Knife Owner's Manual by Young (2011) has the rivets disappearing under the scales in 1961 and the Vic reamer changing from quarter-round to rectangular in cross-section that same year so GigaHz's Champion would be made sometime during that transition year of 1961.

okay, going off what you said, than this master craftsman is a 1961 transition knife?


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[GigaHz]

Mid 60's?

[Caranthanus]

 

[jazzbass]

Mid 60's?

Mid to late. Definitely pre 1970.

[GigaHz]

Late 60's? This has 146fmau on the box. Is that right?

[jazzbass]

Late 60's? This has 146fmau on the box. Is that right?

146fmaU is correct. I'd say early 1970s, right after the +PAT was dropped. So 1971/1972.

[GigaHz]

Maybe SAKWIKI needs a little work. I think it has the 146fmau as having a shackle.

[jazzbass]

I think it has the 146fmau as having a shackle.

The "U" in the old model numbers can refer to either the shackle or the keyring attachment. For example, in the old 1960s alox catalog, the Cadet with keyring is listed as a "2233 Us+" (2xxx = Elinox, 233 = Cadet, U = keyring, s+ = silver scales with red cross).

So, once they moved from shackles to keyrings in the late 1960s, the part numbers stayed the same until the new numbering system was implemented in the mid 1970s.

[GigaHz]

Ah Ok Thanks for clearing that up.

[detron]

I think it has the 146fmau as having a shackle.

The "U" in the old model numbers can refer to either the shackle or the keyring attachment. For example, in the old 1960s alox catalog, the Cadet with keyring is listed as a "2233 Us+" (2xxx = Elinox, 233 = Cadet, U = keyring, s+ = silver scales with red cross).

So, once they moved from shackles to keyrings in the late 1960s, the part numbers stayed the same until the new numbering system was implemented in the mid 1970s.

wow,  I would have never guessed that.  jazzbass,  you are a wealth of knowledge.  thank you for sharing

[kamakiri]

My apologies for the necromancy...but I thought I could help 'save' this thread and re-post the original files that suffer the photobucket problem:

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[Rapidray]

Very nice save’s ... 
Like those small clip blades and the fish scalers have no ruler marking on them!

[Ivo]

They are gorgeous kamakiri 

[kamakiri]

They are gorgeous kamakiri 

I might own one or two of them.    ...But sadly not the Hoffritz.    I suspect that wen't to another member!

I just think this thread was worth preserving.