I agree- I will get an OHT for the collection and for testing and eavaluation, but like the MUT, it won't see any significant use after the initial review period. In the defense of this 2D phillips, while I don't like it, it probably is no worse than the flattened phillips bit on bit driver models like the Charge.Def
For me though, the biggest detractor is the size of the pliers. The just look so tiny on top of the huge handles.
Quote from: Mercury on January 21, 2012, 07:06:38 PMFor me though, the biggest detractor is the size of the pliers. The just look so tiny on top of the huge handles. +1 now that you mention it, it does look like an unwholesome union between a full size MT and keychain size pliers.
Though I'm not interested in this model, I can see uses for a saw outside the woodland/jungle scenarios. Cutting stiff hose, plastic shrouds, wood crate sections, heavy corrugated cardboard, etc, are much easier with a saw, even a short saw rather than a plain edge or serrated knife. Mike
Quote from: Mike on January 21, 2012, 10:52:44 PMThough I'm not interested in this model, I can see uses for a saw outside the woodland/jungle scenarios. Cutting stiff hose, plastic shrouds, wood crate sections, heavy corrugated cardboard, etc, are much easier with a saw, even a short saw rather than a plain edge or serrated knife. MikeFirst off, congratulations on 1,500 posts!Second off, yes I realize that saws are better for cutting hoses and so on, but all saws work on a push/pull basis. The longer the saw, the more of a cut you can make on each puch or pull, regardless of the material you are cutting and that's what gets me about this- the potential for a large saw is there, but squandered.It's around teh same length as a PowerLock saw, which I have always berated as almost useless.Def
So how about if the plier jaws were longer, and slightly wider/stronger? And we get rid of the can opener and one of those flat screwdrivers so we can have a longer knife blade, and a more useful saw? And while we're at it lets take a notch out of the handle scale, so that a full 3D phillips screwdriver would fit in there. Y'know, something like this:A few little changes like that and I might take a hankering to this tool
Quote from: J-sews on January 22, 2012, 06:42:45 AMSo how about if the plier jaws were longer, and slightly wider/stronger? And we get rid of the can opener and one of those flat screwdrivers so we can have a longer knife blade, and a more useful saw? And while we're at it lets take a notch out of the handle scale, so that a full 3D phillips screwdriver would fit in there. Y'know, something like this:A few little changes like that and I might take a hankering to this tool Yea, but how do I open a beer, eh?(Image removed from quote.)
just like We, the students from Poland: you use another beer to open the first one. And of course then you need to buy another one to open the second one and then anoth...
There have been some good suggestions for changes to the OHT made here. I would like to see the strap cutter left off and scissors added, but this tool is aimed at the military market and the strap cutter is important to them .
Medics probably have more than one set of scissors on them already. As for other military people, I'm not sure. I'll ask my son if the Gerber MT that the Army issued him has scissors on it and whether or not he had a need for them while he was deployed. The strap cutter is rather important. Soldiers that are currently deployed use vehicles a lot and the IED is the enemy's favorite way to attack them. Many Soldiers stopped wearing their seat belts because they believed that the belts could keep them from exiting a burning vehicle quickly. The Army"s statistics show that there Solders are much more likely to be injured because of not being secured during an explosion or roll over, but the Solders still tend to leave the seat belts off. In order to get the solders to wear the belts the Army issued strap cutters to be carried by the Soldiers. The hope was that the Soldiers would now feel that they could exit a burning vehicle quickly after cutting the belts. The use of seat belts has increased, but many soldiers do not wear them.I learned about this seat belt issue because my son learned his seat belt lesson the hard way. While on a combat patrol the HUMVEE his squad was traveling in was blown up by an IED. He was in the turret manning the machine gun. When the bomb exploded he was thrown out of the turret and landed about 20 feet away. Luckily he only suffered a mild concussion an some cracked ribs. His buddies were all knocked unconscious and suffered minor injuries from being tossed around inside the vehicle. If they had all been wearing their seat belts they would most likely have suffered fewer injuries.
I think the strap cutter is an awesome tool, i wish I had one in my truck. I have pulled up to accident scenes in the past where the occupants were being extracted as I ran up because someone had a strap cutter in their car. While I have yet to see a burning vehicle with people in it, the strap cutters helped me and many folks involved get the occupants secured and safe for paramedics to help when they arrived. I firmly believe in their inclusion into Mt's and wish more tools had them as options.
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