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And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1080 on: May 10, 2013, 12:13:12 AM
A liner or frame lock 93 is still on my To-Do list.

 :think: maybe I could kill three birds with one stone and make a Damascus bladed, OHO, Liner locked 93mm Alox...
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1081 on: May 10, 2013, 12:36:57 AM
Here are some more fit up pics of the progress for today.  I think it will work out perfect. 

I checked the scrap pile and found a nice thick piece of Ti to use for the cam part.  Its not shaped yet, I just jeweler sawed a piece out, but it seems like it will be just fine.  Keep in mind all these are just rough cut right now.  Once I know the mechanism works I will sand and finish it all nice.  The TI cam I'll carbidize if it needs it, but in this case a 'sticky' fit might be an asset.











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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1082 on: May 10, 2013, 12:47:18 AM
Looking very  :drool:  Nice work so far!  :tu:

You jeweler sawed that piece of Ti? Those are impressively straight cuts  :o
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1083 on: May 10, 2013, 12:55:11 AM
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Looking very  :drool:  Nice work so far!  :tu:

You jeweler sawed that piece of Ti? Those are impressively straight cuts  :o

I cut it out with a jewelers saw, but I made it flat with a sander.  :tu:  It took a few blades to cut that small piece since it's 0.225 thick.
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Reply #1084 on: May 10, 2013, 12:55:46 AM
As well as "sticky" you might want to give it a tiny bit of "overcenter" locking on the cam to help prevent unwanted unlocking.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1085 on: May 10, 2013, 12:57:10 AM
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Looking very  :drool:  Nice work so far!  :tu:

You jeweler sawed that piece of Ti? Those are impressively straight cuts  :o

Haven't you seen Robert's sawing video... he has some impressive wrist action...  :whistle:
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1086 on: May 10, 2013, 12:58:35 AM
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As well as "sticky" you might want to give it a tiny bit of "overcenter" locking on the cam to help prevent unwanted unlocking.

Oh thats a good point actually, I hadn't thought of that.   :tu:
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1087 on: May 10, 2013, 01:14:24 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on May 10, 2013, 12:55:11 AM
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Looking very  :drool:  Nice work so far!  :tu:

You jeweler sawed that piece of Ti? Those are impressively straight cuts  :o

I cut it out with a jewelers saw, but I made it flat with a sander.  :tu:  It took a few blades to cut that small piece since it's 0.225 thick.

D'oh, that makes sense :) 

If I tried, I'm sure I'd break more than a few.  I'm surprised how long the edges on mine last, but the slightest wrong twist and they snap very easy.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1088 on: May 10, 2013, 01:15:40 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on May 10, 2013, 12:58:35 AM
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As well as "sticky" you might want to give it a tiny bit of "overcenter" locking on the cam to help prevent unwanted unlocking.

Oh thats a good point actually, I hadn't thought of that.   :tu:

Boyo17 mentioned here filing the springs to get a certain radius clearance.  I wonder if that was for something like the "overcenter" cam to work.  Filing down since the backsprings aren't flat.  :think:
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1089 on: May 10, 2013, 01:20:47 AM
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Looking very  :drool:  Nice work so far!  :tu:

You jeweler sawed that piece of Ti? Those are impressively straight cuts  :o

Haven't you seen Robert's sawing video... he has some impressive wrist action...  :whistle:

I'm sure I'm being dense, but does Robert = Syph? Or did I just miss an obvious joke  ::)  :D

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1090 on: May 10, 2013, 01:23:26 AM
Quote from: gustophersmob on May 10, 2013, 01:14:24 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on May 10, 2013, 12:55:11 AM
Quote from: gustophersmob on May 10, 2013, 12:47:18 AM
Looking very  :drool:  Nice work so far!  :tu:

You jeweler sawed that piece of Ti? Those are impressively straight cuts  :o

I cut it out with a jewelers saw, but I made it flat with a sander.  :tu:  It took a few blades to cut that small piece since it's 0.225 thick.

D'oh, that makes sense :) 

If I tried, I'm sure I'd break more than a few.  I'm surprised how long the edges on mine last, but the slightest wrong twist and they snap very easy.

What surprised me most was how the material effects blade life.  To give you an idea, when I cut out liners I can cut about 10 from brass with one saw blade, and with Ti, it takes me about 5 saw blades per liner. :D  Aluminum is the easiest to cut, I can probably cut out 20 or more with one blade.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1091 on: May 10, 2013, 02:31:22 AM
Quote from: gustophersmob on May 10, 2013, 01:20:47 AM
Quote from: PTRSAK on May 10, 2013, 12:57:10 AM
Quote from: gustophersmob on May 10, 2013, 12:47:18 AM
Looking very  :drool:  Nice work so far!  :tu:

You jeweler sawed that piece of Ti? Those are impressively straight cuts  :o

Haven't you seen Robert's sawing video... he has some impressive wrist action...  :whistle:

I'm sure I'm being dense, but does Robert = Syph? Or did I just miss an obvious joke  ::)  :D

Yes its me! They were referring to my sawing video. lol

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1092 on: May 10, 2013, 02:38:03 AM
Very cool. I am not sure i get the idea though. Is the cam to prevent the spring from moving?  A video of the mechanism in action would be most interesting?  How about the wenger licking mechanism. It is rather neat as well.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1093 on: May 10, 2013, 03:04:34 AM
Quote from: papercut on May 10, 2013, 02:38:03 AM
Very cool. I am not sure i get the idea though. Is the cam to prevent the spring from moving?  A video of the mechanism in action would be most interesting?  How about the wenger licking mechanism. It is rather neat as well.
Yes, it prevents the spring from moving up, and therefore, locks the knife in position.
If I remember correctly, wait, what was I saying?
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Reply #1094 on: May 10, 2013, 03:45:25 PM
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Looking very  :drool:  Nice work so far!  :tu:

You jeweler sawed that piece of Ti? Those are impressively straight cuts  :o

I cut it out with a jewelers saw, but I made it flat with a sander.  :tu:  It took a few blades to cut that small piece since it's 0.225 thick.

D'oh, that makes sense :) 

If I tried, I'm sure I'd break more than a few.  I'm surprised how long the edges on mine last, but the slightest wrong twist and they snap very easy.

What surprised me most was how the material effects blade life.  To give you an idea, when I cut out liners I can cut about 10 from brass with one saw blade, and with Ti, it takes me about 5 saw blades per liner. :D  Aluminum is the easiest to cut, I can probably cut out 20 or more with one blade.

Makes sense.  I can do quite a bit of cutting in silver before one gets dulls.  Copper dulls it a bit quicker. 

Usually, though, I break them before they dull trying to cut intricate patterns.  I'll twist it a little bit the wrong way and TWANG  :facepalm:  You'd think I'd learn to do it the right way  ::)
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Reply #1095 on: May 10, 2013, 03:46:56 PM
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Looking very  :drool:  Nice work so far!  :tu:

You jeweler sawed that piece of Ti? Those are impressively straight cuts  :o

Haven't you seen Robert's sawing video... he has some impressive wrist action...  :whistle:

I'm sure I'm being dense, but does Robert = Syph? Or did I just miss an obvious joke  ::)  :D

Yes its me! They were referring to my sawing video. lol

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,35639.msg679737.html#msg679737

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Nice!  I've gotten similar reactions from the wife. Though I'm not nearly that fast  :D  ;)
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1096 on: May 12, 2013, 05:18:59 AM
More white alox :D

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1097 on: May 12, 2013, 11:40:02 AM
Run Ewoks, run! :D
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1098 on: May 12, 2013, 10:58:12 PM
Echawawa!!!!

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Reply #1099 on: May 13, 2013, 05:27:08 PM
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1100 on: May 13, 2013, 05:39:47 PM
How about white liners on that :pok: we can call it the humbug.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1101 on: May 14, 2013, 04:19:56 AM
Here's a regular old pioneer tool layout, dressed in white, with a black liner and screws.







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us Offline MadPlumbarian

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1102 on: May 14, 2013, 01:15:58 PM
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1103 on: May 14, 2013, 05:29:22 PM
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1104 on: May 14, 2013, 06:52:44 PM
Wow the white/black look was very popular.  I sold all the white scales I had made up (only did 5 sets), so I'm prepping a larger batch to send down for the magic white coating.  I think the white scales / black tools trial was a success and it will be something I regularly offer in a mod now.

Now the other thought I had was what to do with all the 91mm blade and opener layers from the donor climbers I have. I was getting climbers for 20 bucks or so and just using the scissors out of them, but then I have the rest as brand new parts just not too exciting to do much with. 

I dont think selling spartans or tinkers on their own is very exciting to anyone.  But then I thought I could toss in those stainless parts in a BO run and also hard anodize the regular Al liners, so I could then have 10 new spartans with black tool layers and liners.  The cost to make them would be very small, but they might be somewhat interesting at least, and I could price them reasonably.  I suppose if noone wanted them though I could just give them away with mods I do as a little perk as well. 

Anyways.. I think that's what the next experiment will be. :D
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1105 on: May 14, 2013, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: Syph007 on May 14, 2013, 06:52:44 PM
...... hard anodize the regular Al liners.......

Brass coloured anodized Al liners maybe??? It would be a lot cheaper then actually cutting and using brass but would give it a feeling of quality. Failing that I would say red liners with BO tools.

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1106 on: May 14, 2013, 08:07:36 PM
Quote from: 396988 on May 14, 2013, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: Syph007 on May 14, 2013, 06:52:44 PM
...... hard anodize the regular Al liners.......

Brass coloured anodized Al liners maybe??? It would be a lot cheaper then actually cutting and using brass but would give it a feeling of quality. Failing that I would say red liners with BO tools.

Oh good point actually, red liners would match the stock scales nicely. 
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1107 on: May 14, 2013, 08:53:58 PM
Quote from: Syph007 on May 14, 2013, 08:07:36 PM
Quote from: 396988 on May 14, 2013, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: Syph007 on May 14, 2013, 06:52:44 PM
...... hard anodize the regular Al liners.......

Brass coloured anodized Al liners maybe??? It would be a lot cheaper then actually cutting and using brass but would give it a feeling of quality. Failing that I would say red liners with BO tools.

Oh good point actually, red liners would match the stock scales nicely. 

:D One from my camp. Red and black just go well together. :tu:
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1108 on: May 14, 2013, 09:08:46 PM
Quote from: Syph007 on May 14, 2013, 08:07:36 PM
Quote from: 396988 on May 14, 2013, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: Syph007 on May 14, 2013, 06:52:44 PM
...... hard anodize the regular Al liners.......

Brass coloured anodized Al liners maybe??? It would be a lot cheaper then actually cutting and using brass but would give it a feeling of quality. Failing that I would say red liners with BO tools.

Oh good point actually, red liners would match the stock scales nicely. 

You didn't mention springs but I guess they would need to be BO too. If postage is good then I am in for a tinker, been thinking I need a philips.

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #1109 on: May 15, 2013, 12:36:40 AM
I wonder how the DSAK or Endor Farmer would look with red liners  :think:

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