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And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)

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wales Offline hiraethus

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3240 on: November 06, 2015, 09:53:09 AM
The phillips is thicker than the can opener, so you'll need a different spring - the blade spring works with a spacer/washer next to the cap lifter.  Peening alox is fine if it's silver, a bit more nerve wracking on coloured scales.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3241 on: November 06, 2015, 10:05:02 AM
Yea, I heard about the blade spring.  I thought there was some slight modification on the cap lifter end required too. And its a .002 washer, right?  Maybe get some phosphor bronze shim material to make a few washers with.  I would want to do this on a several colors of Pioneer so maybe I should practice up on my peening first!
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3242 on: November 06, 2015, 10:08:11 AM
I'm trying to remember what I used in the past.  0.4mm brass sheet, I think.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3243 on: November 06, 2015, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: Syph007 on December 19, 2014, 05:56:57 PM
opener and phillips takes 0.105" of width on a single backspring.  There is a 0.020" washer with the cap lifter to fill out the width.

Ah, found the relevant information: .02".  The only problem is the phosphor bronze I've seen is sold in MUCH larger quantities.  I guess I'd have enough to make a few thousand washers!  :D

Edit: Apparently USA Knife Maker has phosphor bronze washers in various thicknesses.  While they don't have any in .02", they have pairs in .01" along with other thicknesses.  Cheaper than ordering a whole sheet and making my own.  Now all the parts are on their way.  Ack!!  My work simply won't be able to compare to any of the amazing stuff I see on here.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3244 on: November 06, 2015, 11:58:25 PM
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Reply #3245 on: November 07, 2015, 12:03:55 AM
Nice feature @Syph007. Very well deserved I say. The last one is yours too right?
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3246 on: November 07, 2015, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on November 06, 2015, 11:58:25 PM
http://gearjunkie.com/best-multi-tools-knives-review

I reccognize that first tool! :D

Best in the world eh? Can we believe him though?  :P  We all know the Wave doesn't have a 154CM blade...  ;)

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3247 on: November 07, 2015, 12:21:00 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on November 06, 2015, 11:58:25 PM
http://gearjunkie.com/best-multi-tools-knives-review

I reccognize that first tool! :D
Congrats! Now I have to order my next one fast, before you get even more overrun by orders due to that article.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3248 on: November 07, 2015, 12:28:24 AM
As an outside observer I think you've earned the title! Unless Timbukto has an equivalent to MTO and there is some dude on there dishing out hundreds of sweet mods that we don't even know about.  Maybe he's even made a custom backspring to put 91mm scissors on a 84mm   :P

 Very cool mate!  :cheers:
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3249 on: November 07, 2015, 12:34:08 AM

Quote from: Syph007 on November 06, 2015, 11:58:25 PM
http://gearjunkie.com/best-multi-tools-knives-review

I reccognize that first tool! :D

Where? :think:  I don't think I've ever seen that one :P
If I remember correctly, wait, what was I saying?
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3250 on: November 07, 2015, 12:38:26 AM
This GearJunkie dude also thinks that Vic scissors suck? Really?
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3251 on: November 07, 2015, 01:13:43 AM
Quote from: tommywp on November 07, 2015, 12:38:26 AM
This GearJunkie dude also thinks that Vic scissors suck? Really?

Lol.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3252 on: November 07, 2015, 01:55:52 AM
Wow, that is a cool article!  From all of the amazing things I've seen you produce, I think it's pretty accurate.  Your volume of work and quality are so prevalent that you're used as a reference point for how to do things as well as quality.  There are quite a number of talented modders out there, but if wondering if something can be done or has been done, the answer is always the same: Syph did it.

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3253 on: November 07, 2015, 02:28:18 AM
 :salute: That was a good read.  Congrats Syph.  I hope the orders come piling in as a result. 
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3254 on: November 07, 2015, 04:27:18 AM
Congrats Syph!!!  Great article!!!!!
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3255 on: November 07, 2015, 06:35:21 AM
Congrats on the article Syph :cheers:  Can't argue with that :)

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3256 on: November 07, 2015, 06:48:26 AM
Very nice to see you getting the recognition.

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Reply #3257 on: November 07, 2015, 12:37:04 PM
That's a very unusual 'nom de plume' you chose there Syph  :o  :D
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3258 on: November 08, 2015, 05:18:00 PM
Ok.. two mods done yesterday.  First one is an Ti dual blade... second has a Ti mag glass in it... yep.. finally used one.  :D





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Reply #3259 on: November 08, 2015, 05:26:32 PM
So now lets talk Ti mag glass... how to hold the bloody lens in...

So.. tried a friction fit.. fail it will fall out.

Tried epoxy, not a great look and some got on glass.. and not easily replaceable lens... fail.

Tried to paint on crazy glue around lens then fit in... still got white crusty stuff on glass.. fail.

About to give up when I thought.. why not just tap a hole through the bottom of the frame?





That was the smallest head screw I had, but a set screw would work even better (got some on order). 

So first thoughts.. will it crack the lens.  Nope, tightened as hard as I could and nothing. ( I could also put a dot of rubber or glue on the end so metal screw to glass contact is eliminated).

Next thought was retention.  I could not dislodge the the lens with finger pressure, yet a turn of the screw released it just fine.  :D

So... Ive got an easily replaceable lens system now with no downside that I can see.  YES!!!

Im not 100% happy with the Ti material as a choice though so I think the future will see some brass or Al options.  Ti and metal rubbing will never be as smooth as stock tools, but at least Ive solved the major issues here, and proved the design and CAD file I made works.

Here is the finished SAK with the mag glass.







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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3260 on: November 08, 2015, 05:29:48 PM
Quote from: Syph007 on November 08, 2015, 05:26:32 PM
So now lets talk Ti mag glass... how to hold the bloody lens in...

So.. tried a friction fit.. fail it will fall out.

Tried epoxy, not a great look and some got on glass.. and not easily replaceable lens... fail.

Tried to paint on crazy glue around lens then fit in... still got white crusty stuff on glass.. fail.

About to give up when I thought.. why not just tap a hole through the bottom of the frame?

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That was the smallest head screw I had, but a set screw would work even better (got some on order). 

So first thoughts.. will it crack the lens.  Nope, tightened as hard as I could and nothing. ( I could also put a dot of rubber or glue on the end so metal screw to glass contact is eliminated).

Next thought was retention.  I could not dislodge the the lens with finger pressure, yet a turn of the screw released it just fine.  :D

So... Ive got an easily replaceable lens system now with no downside that I can see.  YES!!!

Im not 100% happy with the Ti material as a choice though so I think the future will see some brass or Al options.  Ti and metal rubbing will never be as smooth as stock tools, but at least Ive solved the major issues here, and proved the design and CAD file I made works.

Here is the finished SAK with the mag glass.

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Now that's an elegant solution! Love it.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3261 on: November 08, 2015, 05:46:54 PM
Quote from: Syph007 on November 08, 2015, 05:26:32 PM
So now lets talk Ti mag glass... how to hold the bloody lens in...

So.. tried a friction fit.. fail it will fall out.

Tried epoxy, not a great look and some got on glass.. and not easily replaceable lens... fail.

Tried to paint on crazy glue around lens then fit in... still got white crusty stuff on glass.. fail.

About to give up when I thought.. why not just tap a hole through the bottom of the frame?

(Image removed from quote.)

(Image removed from quote.)

That was the smallest head screw I had, but a set screw would work even better (got some on order). 

So first thoughts.. will it crack the lens.  Nope, tightened as hard as I could and nothing. ( I could also put a dot of rubber or glue on the end so metal screw to glass contact is eliminated).

Next thought was retention.  I could not dislodge the the lens with finger pressure, yet a turn of the screw released it just fine.  :D

So... Ive got an easily replaceable lens system now with no downside that I can see.  YES!!!

Im not 100% happy with the Ti material as a choice though so I think the future will see some brass or Al options.  Ti and metal rubbing will never be as smooth as stock tools, but at least Ive solved the major issues here, and proved the design and CAD file I made works.

Here is the finished SAK with the mag glass.

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That is excellent!!!!!!!   :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Reply #3262 on: November 08, 2015, 06:07:19 PM
Great job as usual    :tu:
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Reply #3263 on: November 08, 2015, 07:44:52 PM
THAT is fantastic...
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Reply #3264 on: November 08, 2015, 09:19:26 PM
Love the mag glass Syph :tu:

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au Offline Huntsman

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3265 on: November 08, 2015, 10:28:36 PM
OK - That's three more adjectives (persistent, resilient, determined) - I have to add to my list of adjectives (technically brilliant, inspired, creative, imaginative, original, oozing quality) that I use to describe you and your work  :D

PS. Does the holder have a wee ledge all the way round for the glass to rest against - So it cannot come out in one direction - then the screw holds it in and against the ledge? 
Merit Badges Must update or add a page on SAKWiki Start a new thread with photos of a Japanese made PST in your collection Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Must buy an item through the MTo Store Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Must start a thread showing a photo of at least three BO tools Start a thread with photos of at least eight different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a thread with a photo of a repair you made with duct tape Start a new thread with a photo of custom or non standard SAK scales in your collection Must put something in order and provide link to the post.

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3266 on: November 08, 2015, 10:58:22 PM
One word. :gimmie:
If I remember correctly, wait, what was I saying?
Merit Badges Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Start a thread with photos of at least five different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of camping, including those showing preferred camping equipment Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying Must start a thread with a photo of your EDC watch Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Must buy something on EDCSource

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3267 on: November 09, 2015, 12:12:24 AM
One word, brass!
Merit Badges Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of  a Case knife  for 30 days Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo  of 84 and 85 mm Swiss Army Knives (and Wengers) for 30 days Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for sixty (60) consecutive days. Participate  in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a Leatherman Skeletool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days.

ca Offline Syph007

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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3268 on: November 09, 2015, 12:53:58 AM
Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on November 09, 2015, 12:12:24 AM
One word, brass!

Ya I was just ordering a piece the right thickness... Id like a Ti explorer, brass mag glass holder, brass liners, brass cross, brass tweezer.... yup... that would be good.... or the same as a yeoman config.
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Re: And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)
Reply #3269 on: November 09, 2015, 01:59:05 AM
Does the mag glass hold the olde style or new style lens?
If I remember correctly, wait, what was I saying?
Merit Badges Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Start a thread with photos of at least five different colored ALOX models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of camping, including those showing preferred camping equipment Start a new thread demonstrating paracord knot tying Must start a thread with a photo of your EDC watch Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK Must buy something on EDCSource

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