And so it begins.... (My adventures into Alox!)

Aloha · **Reply #5580 on:** March 13, 2019, 02:21:10 PM

I'd call that Ti-dye

Poncho65 · **Reply #5581 on:** March 13, 2019, 08:11:57 PM

Quote from: Aloha on March 13, 2019, 02:21:10 PM

I'd call that Ti-dye

the other name sounds great but I could remember this one much easier

Syph007 · **Reply #5582 on:** March 13, 2019, 10:25:52 PM

Quote from: tommywp on March 13, 2019, 01:46:31 PM

Hey Syph. I suspect it’s somewhere in this thread but could you compare the weight of a 91mm mod to a comparable 93mm...for example a Climber with TI scales to a stock Pioneer X

The 91 would be lighter. All the backsprings alone have less metal than the 93 versions.

Syph007 · **Reply #5583 on:** March 13, 2019, 10:30:13 PM

Project 84 is a go. Finally made my scissors fixture.

Wspeed · **Reply #5584 on:** March 13, 2019, 10:47:57 PM

Good work Syph

FInixNOver · **Reply #5585 on:** March 13, 2019, 11:13:09 PM

Sent from my Redmi Note 5

Poncho65 · **Reply #5586 on:** March 14, 2019, 12:20:36 AM

Oh wow

that is awesome

ReamerPunch · **Reply #5587 on:** March 14, 2019, 02:45:21 AM

Are those 91mm scissors in that 84mm frame?

magentus · **Reply #5588 on:** March 14, 2019, 09:45:07 AM

Fantastic!

Syph007 · **Reply #5589 on:** March 14, 2019, 12:57:30 PM

Quote from: ReamerPunch on March 14, 2019, 02:45:21 AM

Are those 91mm scissors in that 84mm frame?

Yup! Been meaning to do this for years and finally got to it.

ReamerPunch · **Reply #5590 on:** March 14, 2019, 02:33:24 PM

Quote from: Syph007 on March 14, 2019, 12:57:30 PM

Yup! Been meaning to do this for years and finally got to it.

Are you a wizard?

Poncho65 · **Reply #5591 on:** March 14, 2019, 04:53:20 PM

I think he is

Syph007 · **Reply #5592 on:** March 14, 2019, 08:38:55 PM

And I can now finally confirm a titanium backspring works great! Only took 5 versions.

Wspeed · **Reply #5593 on:** March 14, 2019, 08:42:31 PM

That looks really good Syph

ReamerPunch · **Reply #5594 on:** March 15, 2019, 12:17:49 AM

Huntsman · **Reply #5595 on:** March 15, 2019, 02:03:10 AM

Those are the photos I wanted to see - ie with spring

Fantastic

Better still you made your own - I thought that you'd re-use an existing one from an 84mm

So you've put a wee brass nub in there to make the opening smooth - Correct?
I remember you saying that TI does not glide too well.

The fascinating thing for me is that the body of the scissors fit in the 84mm frame and it's just the tang that gets changed
- Is that correct ?

Does make you wonder why Vic stopped this option !!

Anyway - .... Awesome

AeroBear21 · **Reply #5596 on:** March 15, 2019, 08:37:23 AM

Very cool!

I think it was here that I read Ti stiffens over time. If this is the case it'll be interesting to see how long it takes before that change can actually be felt.

If that brass nub is there to help with the Ti/steel interaction, did you also do something where the scissors slide along the spring while closing, or is that minimal enough that it doesn't effect functionality?

Once again, fantastic work Syph

Sakpan74Gr · **Reply #5597 on:** March 15, 2019, 01:57:53 PM

How about an 84 deluxe tinker?

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tommywp · **Reply #5598 on:** March 16, 2019, 04:05:02 PM

Wow. This is awesome. I’m even more excited about the custom backspring than the 84mm scissors. My favorite part of the 93mm era was all the non-standard tool layouts that allowed for true customizations...this seems to have been lost a little bit with the 91mm mods and my layman’s understanding is that the 91mm backsprings are the big limiting factor. For example, could a slightly wider saw spring accommodate the in line awl at the other end, could a spring be made to accommodate an opener on one side and the small blade on the other, could some ingenious design be created to put 58mm tools on a 91mm (a small scissor that doesn’t take a whole layer!). If it were possible, I know just the guy for the job. Here’s to hoping!!!

Syph007 · **Reply #5599 on:** March 16, 2019, 05:42:07 PM

Quote from: Sakpan74Gr on March 15, 2019, 01:57:53 PM

How about an 84 deluxe tinker?

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You know I think pliers could be cut down in a similar way... Hmmm

Sakpan74Gr · **Reply #5600 on:** March 16, 2019, 06:44:30 PM

Oh, having a limited budget I would love an 84 alox deluxe tinker with the small blade instead of the file!
I wonder if the saw and metal file could be cut down for an 84 alox craftsman, or ranger, mountaineer or ranger.

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Poncho65 · **Reply #5601 on:** March 16, 2019, 06:46:13 PM

Quote from: Syph007 on March 16, 2019, 05:42:07 PM

You know I think pliers could be cut down in a similar way... Hmmm

Syph007 · **Reply #5602 on:** March 16, 2019, 08:32:12 PM

I ordered some proper oil impregnated bronze for the bearing surface of the spring. Im going to wait until I get that to finish up the project. Its intended for a bearing surface under load which is exactly what I need. And its self lubricating. They make it by sintering bronze powder into a matrix then infusing oil in the micro voids. Should work for my purposes perfectly since its intended for a much more robust industrial application than a sak.

Meanwhile I built a 93 configuration that I have never done before.