Can Opener Test

[Lynn LeFey]

Mr. Whippy, how about you go get a EZ-DUZ-IT can opener...
http://www.amazon.com/Made-in-USA-Can-Opener/dp/B007DK6SG0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334166298&sr=8-1

And I'll get a vic, and then we can have a rational, and hopefully non-biased discussion.

[Top-Gear-24]

Not sure whether I agree on 20 seconds making no difference. If you open three cans, it'll just make dinner a minute later. Which is of little practical importance. But, let's say you run a kennel and open 10 cans a day (I'm pulling this example out of my a**, I have no idea whether it is reasonable to open those 10 cans, especially since most kennels will have most of the feed in bags), that's 200 seconds a day, or just under three and a half minute. In a month, that will add up to 1:40 of working time. That's real money for a company.

But what about the time you loose when you have to go to the drawer and get (or even worse: search for) the manual crank can opener while your VIC is in your pocket ...

Note to myself: you told yourself to stay out of this and look what you just did ... 

P.S. Love the "can opening videos" here  .

[dks]

Why would a man be opening cans anyway??

[Steinar]

But what about the time you loose when you have to go to the drawer and get (or even worse: search for) the manual crank can opener while your VIC is in your pocket ...

The crank can opener hangs/lies in a fixed spot right where you use it, or has a chain (or is mounted on the wall), and since you always have a SAK or multi-tool on your person, you use that immediately instead of searching for the manual opener which has been removed for cleaning/replacement/whatever.

Note to myself: you told yourself to stay out of this and look what you just did ... 

You are discussing a hypothetical example meaning to evaluate whether an argument used by the two who actually have done tests have merit. So, not only have you joined the thread, you have joined the meta-discussion instead of the actual topic as well. 

[Steinar]

Why would a man be opening cans anyway??

Because the mammoths he was looking for when he left the cave last time are extinct.

[Lynn LeFey]

Why would a man be opening cans anyway??

NOT funny.

[Mr. Whippy]

Not sure whether I agree on 20 seconds making no difference. If you open three cans, it'll just make dinner a minute later. Which is of little practical importance. But, let's say you run a kennel and open 10 cans a day (I'm pulling this example out of my a**, I have no idea whether it is reasonable to open those 10 cans, especially since most kennels will have most of the feed in bags), that's 200 seconds a day, or just under three and a half minute. In a month, that will add up to 1:40 of working time. That's real money for a company.

To put this in real world scenario, IF I were opening 10 large cans per day at a kennel, I'd purchase the above commercial can opener and never touch a portable hand crank or Vic opener.  We had the above opener in my parents' bakery, and it'll rip through a can in 10 sec or less with virtually no effort. (Due to the length of the crank handle).

[Lynn LeFey]

To put this in real world scenario, IF I were opening 10 large cans per day at a kennel, I'd purchase the above commercial can opener and never touch a portable hand crank or Vic opener.  We had the above opener in my parents' bakery, and it'll rip through a can in 10 sec or less with virtually no effort. (Due to the length of the crank handle).

To put THIS in a real-world scenario, virtually no one opens #10 cans AT ALL unless it's in that industrial kind of setting.

[Mr. Whippy]

Mr. Whippy, how about you go get a EZ-DUZ-IT can opener...
http://www.amazon.com/Made-in-USA-Can-Opener/dp/B007DK6SG0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334166298&sr=8-1

And I'll get a vic, and then we can have a rational, and hopefully non-biased discussion.

I have the OXO can opener (similar design)



That's what my opinion is based on.

[Mr. Whippy]

To put this in real world scenario, IF I were opening 10 large cans per day at a kennel, I'd purchase the above commercial can opener and never touch a portable hand crank or Vic opener.  We had the above opener in my parents' bakery, and it'll rip through a can in 10 sec or less with virtually no effort. (Due to the length of the crank handle).

To put THIS in a real-world scenario, virtually no one opens #10 cans AT ALL unless it's in that industrial kind of setting.

Watch the carts that come out of a Sam's Club, BJ's Warehouse or Costco.  You might be surprised.

[Lynn LeFey]

So I should base my claim on the Vic's ability on the SOG's 'similar design' can opener? Am I understanding you correctly?

Also... HURRICANE OF POSTS!!!!!!

[dks]

Why would a man be opening cans anyway??

NOT funny.

It was not meant to be..... 




 

[Lynn LeFey]

Why would a man be opening cans anyway??

NOT funny.

It was not meant to be..... 




 

It has also been reported to the mods.

[airballrad]

It was not meant to be..... 

Cypriots   

[dks]

Why would a man be opening cans anyway??

NOT funny.

It was not meant to be..... 




 

It has also been reported to the mods.

I know...

[Lynn LeFey]

Cool. I'm done here.

[Mr. Whippy]

So I should base my claim on the Vic's ability on the SOG's 'similar design' can opener? Am I understanding you correctly?

Also... HURRICANE OF POSTS!!!!!!

The OXO opener comes as a highly recommended version of the portable hand crank opener, from several cooking magazines.  It comes with at least as many recommendations as the Amazon link.  Remember, this isn't new engineering, just level of quality.  I doubt anyone would place a blackmark against OXO regarding quality of their utensils.

[Mr. Whippy]

Why would a man be opening cans anyway??

NOT funny.

It was not meant to be..... 




 

It has also been reported to the mods.

I know...

Hey, hey...

Yes, the comment was sexist, but I don't think it was truly meant to offend.  This has been a pretty enjoyable thread up until this point.  Let's keep things sociable on the playground. 

[theonew]

Can openers are for wussies ...

[Mr. Whippy]

Definitely slower than a Vic.   <- Star Trek themed "can opener"

[Lynn LeFey]

From first hit to second, it was 14 seconds. I think that even beats a spoon!

However, it was a pop top can, so it's a cheat.

Now I've gotto find the Cody Lundin 'curb' method...

Reported time was 'a couple minutes'.

[Mr. Whippy]

Ok.

Two more points:

Point #1:
In boy scouts, we opened a can with a ax.  Placed it in the V of branch, and chopped the top off.  Didn't spill much either!

Point #2:
A friend's dog used to open the cupboard, pull out a can, usually tuna, or cat food, and chew on it until it was absolutely flat, squeezing all the goodness out of it.  Sorta like squeezing an orange for juice, I suppose...

[Lynn LeFey]

Yeah, you can also hammer the tip of most any blade straight down into a can to open it.

My testing from the beginning of the thread was limited to 'tools actually purpose-made to open cans'.

I'll limit any of my future time trials to those tools only.

[Steinar]

So no video of you chewing through a can? Sort of disappointed here...

(No, I'm not volunteering to time the method myself, so I guess I have nothing to complain about. )

Sort of on-topic note of the day: This is a quick cut'n paste from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can_opener : Although preservation of food using tin cans had been practiced since at least 1772 in the Netherlands, the first can openers were patented only in 1855 in England and in 1858 in the United States.

[J Mackrel Jones]

Consider the development of the SAK can opener (the “tin
opener”): In 1795 Napoleon Bonaparte offered a reward of 12,000 French
francs for a way to preserve food in containers for his troops (“An army
marches on its stomach”). In 1810 Nicolas Appert of France won this prize
with his sealed-after-boiling glass-bottle method. This same year Peter Du-
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rand of England received a patent for the application of Appert’s method
to food cans of the kind used by the Dutch Navy since the 1770s, resulting
in what we call the “tin can” (actually a tin-coated iron can). For eighty
years cans of food had to be opened with an ax or, as the instructions
printed on the can said, “hammer and chisel”. A can-opener was not invented
until 1855, by Robert Yates of England; a good design still being
used today. In 1858 Ezra Warner of Connecticut patented a slim but complicated
“bayonet and sickle” opener which was as hazardous as the ax
method, even on the thinner steel cans then being made. The tin opener
on the 1890 Swiss Soldier’s Knife was a somewhat safer design: After
punching a starting slot with the tip of the tool, the sharp edge of the sicklelike
hook cut the can from the inside; a small angled arm was levered
against the top of the can as the hook cut around the top.
   etc.     The Swiss Army Knike Owner's Manual

[ducttapetech]

Why would a man be opening cans anyway??

NOT funny.

It was not meant to be..... 




 

It has also been reported to the mods.

I know...

Hey, hey...

Yes, the comment was sexist, but I don't think it was truly meant to offend.  This has been a pretty enjoyable thread up until this point.  Let's keep things sociable on the playground. 

I know I am opening a can of worms here, but in dks defense, it was meant to be joke only. Nothing more.

[airballrad]

I know I am opening a can of worms here, but in dks defense, it was meant to be joke only. Nothing more.

But were you opening that can of worms with a Vic or a dedicated opener? Was it a #10 can of worms?

In all seriousness, jokes like this can slide when a forum is mostly guys, or women that are used to us. But it is also important to remember that the forum must be welcoming to all least we drive away those we would help.

Edit to add: Language and cultural barriers make it trickier still, so while we are here to learn a little and have some fun, the fun should not be at others' expense. Not trying to be preachy, but there it is.   

[Lynn LeFey]

This misunderstanding has been settled. All is good in MT.O land. Everyone stay calm. Stay CALM! FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD, PLEASE STAY CALM!!!



And, fyi, it was an unusual 8oz can of worms. In mustard sauce...
And I used the forehead smash method, followed by letting a dog gnaw on it.

[jerseydevil]

I like the SKS method, I'll have to try it out next time I'm at the range.  Maybe a comparison test....

[Lynn LeFey]

I will humbly bow to the truth, that an SKS will open a can faster than crank can opener, or Vic. It's trying to gather the contents afterward that is the issue. I'd rather not scrape my dinner off of... everything.