Thanks Zed. Thank You too Multimatt I got a Victorinox Spirit, Swisschamp and Farmer. Wenger Evo 18 Travler-with backpacker blade etch_, backpacker, soldier and a one layer I can't remember the name.For multitools I own a leatherman Skeletool, style cs,Wave,Blast,Juice xe6 + cs2 Victorinox Spirit and a gerber 600.I've had many more sak's and tools over the years.I do a lot of trading I keep the ones that work for me and enjoy trying out the ones that don't.