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Taylor Brands Schrade ST1

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england Offline Benner

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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #30 on: February 22, 2008, 10:12:15 PM
Well the sideclip i just got from Nomad Has 3 different codes on it!!! I think that is a record.

Thats pretty impressive.

My Wave had different codes, but I had to send it in for repair and they replaced both the handles so now they match.
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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #31 on: February 22, 2008, 10:15:40 PM
Yup my Sideclip is a special olympian. But I still love her!!!
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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #32 on: February 22, 2008, 11:51:28 PM
Interesting.

The poster from CPF responded to my inquiry.

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Hi...

I just checked. The one I have has a "one-piece" plier head....and not the type shown in your picture.

Take care.

Looks like Schrade did scale down the production of the ToughTool during their last days of operation.


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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #33 on: February 23, 2008, 02:31:44 AM
Photographic evidence pirated from eBay:





Note the USA logo in the top pic, solid plier head in the bottom pic.

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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #34 on: February 23, 2008, 02:32:59 AM
Velly eentulestink....

I wonder if this was a last ditch effort by Schrade to save some money before the end or what?

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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #35 on: February 23, 2008, 02:34:54 AM
Yah it looks like a retool to save cash. Schrade was going broke for several years and most likely did this to save manufacturing and assembly cost.

Its a   Shame :-\
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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #36 on: February 23, 2008, 02:37:34 AM
Nice find. That's it all right.

I always wondered what everyone meant when they were talking about lamination and the ToughTool.

Here's another one, what's the hole for on the rear of the handle?



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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #37 on: February 23, 2008, 02:43:48 AM
Nice find. That's it all right.

I always wondered what everyone meant when they were talking about lamination and the ToughTool.

Here's another one, what's the hole for on the rear of the handle?


That sir, is a damn good question!  :think:

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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #38 on: February 23, 2008, 04:23:37 AM
I had one of those Schrade multi-tools. Mine was labeled Craftsman. I hated it, maybe I got a lemon but on mine the locks didn't work worth a crap, the blades didn't sharpen very good and it just felt cheap. Since I worked at Sears at the time I waited until I knew they were out of them to "replace" my Schrade. Imagine my disappointment when the salesman said I could wait for the next truck and get a replacement one or I could just get a LM Super Tool 200. I was heartbroken but I took the Leatherman.  :D
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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #39 on: February 23, 2008, 05:27:04 AM
I wonder if that hole is threaded...for use with a pocket clip. :think:
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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #40 on: February 23, 2008, 08:02:41 AM
Not on mine- I just always assumed it was a badly placed lanyard hole.

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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #41 on: March 31, 2008, 01:46:53 AM

Here's another one, what's the hole for on the rear of the handle?

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Hah!! I finally found out what the hole is for!! :multi:

Hang on a sec.....picture coming.....what a goofy idea this is.... :P

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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #42 on: March 31, 2008, 01:58:35 AM
I found this patent information on Google Patents. Here's a link to the Schrade Tough Tool patent.

So anyhow, about that hole.......




The patent text reads:
One use of tool 10 to clamp items like a vise is shown in FIG. 7. A multi-strand cable 106 is clamped in jaws 18 and 20 with tool 10 in a semi-closed state. An aperture 108 is preferably formed through web 68 of handle 24 and is adapted to receive, when desired, a lanyard 110. Lanyard 110 provides a convenient way to carry tool 10 on a belt or back-pack. It also allows tool 10 to clamp cable 106, or other desired item, by closing tool 10 with cable 106 between the jaws 18 and 20 of pliers 12, and by wrapping lanyard 110 tightly around handles 22 and 24. Tool 10 will continue to clamp cable 106 without the necessity of gripping the pliers in one's hands. As noted above, this advantage is due to the storing of gripping end 14 externally of the handles when tool 10 is closed.

Clear as mud, right? :D

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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #43 on: March 31, 2008, 02:01:53 AM
So basically it's a lanyard hole that allows you to tie the handles closes so that stuff that was stuck in the jaws is held together.

Would this be any more effective than just wrapping the cord around whatever you want to clamp?

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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #44 on: March 31, 2008, 02:04:48 AM
So basically it's a lanyard hole that allows you to tie the handles closes so that stuff that was stuck in the jaws is held together.

Would this be any more effective than just wrapping the cord around whatever you want to clamp?

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Maybe doing it that way was already patented by Tim Leatherman?  :D
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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #45 on: March 31, 2008, 02:07:14 AM
If you drilled a hole in the handle of a PowerLock, you could do this with compound leverage!

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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #46 on: March 31, 2008, 02:42:45 AM
I found this patent information on Google Patents. Here's a link to the Schrade Tough Tool patent.

So anyhow, about that hole.......


(Image removed from quote.)

The patent text reads:
One use of tool 10 to clamp items like a vise is shown in FIG. 7. A multi-strand cable 106 is clamped in jaws 18 and 20 with tool 10 in a semi-closed state. An aperture 108 is preferably formed through web 68 of handle 24 and is adapted to receive, when desired, a lanyard 110. Lanyard 110 provides a convenient way to carry tool 10 on a belt or back-pack. It also allows tool 10 to clamp cable 106, or other desired item, by closing tool 10 with cable 106 between the jaws 18 and 20 of pliers 12, and by wrapping lanyard 110 tightly around handles 22 and 24. Tool 10 will continue to clamp cable 106 without the necessity of gripping the pliers in one's hands. As noted above, this advantage is due to the storing of gripping end 14 externally of the handles when tool 10 is closed.

Clear as mud, right? :D



 No wonder Schrade went T/U.
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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #47 on: March 31, 2008, 02:45:44 AM
You could do it with bungee or shock cord and have it variable...

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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #48 on: April 04, 2008, 04:58:35 AM
that patent is wierd but the tool has been a good tool and I have carried it a lot.


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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #49 on: April 04, 2008, 01:01:53 PM
that patent is wierd but the tool has been a good tool and I have carried it a lot.

You must have the original made-in-USA version then? :)
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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #50 on: April 05, 2008, 11:10:12 PM
Thanks for taking the time to search around and update!

Another interesting little piece of info.  :)


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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #51 on: April 23, 2008, 01:24:42 AM
The ST3 is the one for 7 bucks at Big Lots. I have to say it is not THAT bad.. A great tool for the tackle box!
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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #52 on: May 18, 2008, 04:28:43 AM
yes, i have the laminated version and the later version made in the US with solid steel instead of the laminated plier.


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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #53 on: May 23, 2008, 02:37:55 AM
The ST3 is the one for 7 bucks at Big Lots. I have to say it is not THAT bad.. A great tool for the tackle box!

Especially if same thing happens to your MTs that happens to your cameras on your boat  ;)


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Re: Taylor Brands Schrade ST1
Reply #54 on: May 23, 2008, 02:43:45 AM
LOL! I am just really careless I guess!  :-[ :D
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