Where did your user name come from?

[jaya_man]

Happy BDay Douglas... all the best...


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[ThePeacent]

here in Spain we also have a word for the love of the land and nostalgia of your birthplace, we call it "Morriña"

I guess all countries/cultures have their term or word for that

[magentus]

Happy belated Birthday Douglas  Hope it was a good one. Here's a BDay song for you:

[ThundahBeagle]

here in Spain we also have a word for the love of the land and nostalgia of your birthplace, we call it "Morriña"

I guess all countries/cultures have their term or word for that

I believe that term in English is "Homesick." Stronger than the Portuguese "saudades" as I believe "saudades" is simply to miss someone or someplace, whereas I think "Morrina" is a much deeper homesickness, longing, pining. Is that about right, Peacent?

[hiraethus]

And do you also have Portuguese blood? Or have you visited there a lot? Or know a lot of folks from there? One mightn't reference a word like "suadades" out of the blue without the language being within their comfort zone.

I've been to Brasil on a number of occasions, my GF being from there originally

No, but whilst trying to figure out exactly what hiraeth meant I came across saudade.  There's also this:


I suppose the concept of hiraeth must be found in many cultures, but there's no direct English translation.  Morriña seems close too.

[AlephZero]

Oh, and btw... Good job everyone!



We managed to turn this thread into a linguistics class!

 

[pfrsantos]

here in Spain we also have a word for the love of the land and nostalgia of your birthplace, we call it "Morriña"

I guess all countries/cultures have their term or word for that

I believe that term in English is "Homesick." Stronger than the Portuguese "saudades" as I believe "saudades" is simply to miss someone or someplace, whereas I think "Morrina" is a much deeper homesickness, longing, pining. Is that about right, Peacent?

Dude, really?!
 

You can't define saudade. You can only feel it. It's something that makes people who don't understand a word of portuguese cry when they hear fado. It's what bonds portuguese toghether. What they say without words, with just a glance. It's a happy sadness, a sad happiness. It's nothing of what I said. It's more than that, it's less than that. It's... saudade.

[pfrsantos]

Well according to Butch, 49 years ago TODAY a vulture puked on a rock as he walked by and I came out and he called me Douglas...
At least that was one story, not sure what to believe.
You can decide for yourselves.

Parabéns, kiddo!

 

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[ThePeacent]

here in Spain we also have a word for the love of the land and nostalgia of your birthplace, we call it "Morriña"

I guess all countries/cultures have their term or word for that

I believe that term in English is "Homesick." Stronger than the Portuguese "saudades" as I believe "saudades" is simply to miss someone or someplace, whereas I think "Morrina" is a much deeper homesickness, longing, pining. Is that about right, Peacent?

I won't refer to the Portuguese term/feeling, but the Morriña is definitely a powerful, strong and moving sentiment to have, very deep in meaning and profound. Nailed it   

[dks]

[firiki]

I know that's not in Portuguese but I like this version quite a bit. I think it conveys the feeling of saudade?

[firiki]

Oh, I almost forgot.

Happy birthday Douglas (a bit late, I know)

[Douglas]

Thanks for ALL the well wishes everyone.  Was a great day and great to have all of you as a part of it.

[ThundahBeagle]

Oh, and btw... Good job everyone!

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We managed to turn this thread into a linguistics class!

 

Aleph, you went all the way to the Chive, and THAT'S the picture you came back with? I mean, it's a perfect derailment, but so are the pics the Chive is most known for.

[AlephZero]

Oh, and btw... Good job everyone!

(Image removed from quote.)

We managed to turn this thread into a linguistics class!

 

Aleph, you went all the way to the Chive, and THAT'S the picture you came back with? I mean, it's a perfect derailment, but so are the pics the Chive is most known for.

I went all the way to Google image search for "train wreck" and added the text myself...

I keep that one in my Flickr so I don't have to make a new one every time 

[pfrsantos]

I know that's not in Portuguese but I like this version quite a bit. I think it conveys the feeling of saudade?

Well, Cesária Évora is from Cabo Verde (Cape Verde, or, more to the point, "Cape Green"). It was a portuguese colony for hundreds of years. They speak a mix of portuguese and local crioulo dialect (creole). She is famous for her mornas, a type a slow, sad, nostalgic balads. It has some similarities with fado, in terms of lirics and melody.

She had one of her songs used in the film Underground, by Emir Kusturica.

[pfrsantos]

here in Spain we also have a word for the love of the land and nostalgia of your birthplace, we call it "Morriña"

I guess all countries/cultures have their term or word for that

I believe that term in English is "Homesick." Stronger than the Portuguese "saudades" as I believe "saudades" is simply to miss someone or someplace, whereas I think "Morrina" is a much deeper homesickness, longing, pining. Is that about right, Peacent?

I won't refer to the Portuguese term/feeling, but the Morriña is definitely a powerful, strong and moving sentiment to have, very deep in meaning and profound. Nailed it   

Amália Rodrigues, one of the greatest fado interpreters, had a song called "Morrinha".

[pfrsantos]

We also call morrinha to that very light rain, that kind of drizzle between rain and mist. Another name for it is "chuva de molha-tolos" (fool-wetting rain). Probably because people don't regard it as rain, don't protect themselves and end up all wet.

[Vidar]

I can only blame my parents for the user name. Vidar is a little known God in Norse mythology, which saved the world at some point. (No pressure there then! I usually just save money during sales...)

I can only imagine the disappointment of this Vidar God: His father Odin got a weekday named after himself (Wednesday - it made sense in old style spelling). And the brother Thor also got a weekday named after him (Thursday), and then some movies, comics and what nots. All poor Vidar got was me and some other Vidars.

[dks]

Ηος αβοθτ Ωιδαρ

I can only blame my parents for the user name. Vidar is a little known God in Norse mythology, which saved the world at some point. (No pressure there then! I usually just save money during sales...)

I can only imagine the disappointment of this Vidar God: His father Odin got a weekday named after himself (Wednesday - it made sense in old style spelling). And the brother Thor also got a weekday named after him (Thursday), and then some movies, comics and what nots. All poor Vidar got was me and some other Vidars.

    

[dks]

close?

[Vidar]

close?

Not really 

I'm far more colorful and with less, worse and more rambulent hair. I guess this Vidal does wonders for hair then; more, better and orderly. I should try him sometime just for the challenge.

[AlephZero]

So, hmm...

Moon's day
Tyr's day
Vidar's day
Thor's day
Freya's day
Saturn's day (from the old roman days)
Sun's day

about right? 

[Vidar]

So, hmm...

Moon's day
Tyr's day
Vidar's day
Thor's day
Freya's day
Saturn's day (from the old roman days)
Sun's day

about right? 

Clearly an improvement, although I guess this Odin might be upset 

[Vidar]

With the day issue taken care of I guess the next is the public image? Thor is known for having a cool hammer, and doing thunder and lightning. Vidar on the other hand only has a shoe with a thick sole and is silent. It is hard to get much hype over that. No wonder Thor got the weekday.

[AlephZero]

No seriously, I'm wondering how the weekdays came to be in English language

[Vidar]

No seriously, I'm wondering how the weekdays came to be in English language

Pretty much as you described it with the exception of Vidars day. A weird mixture of celestial stuff in the sky and old norse/ anglo/ german Gods.

The Vikings did their unfair share to spread the norse language and other ideas as part of their, eh, various activites. The Roman calender and weekdays existed before though, so likely just changed around the names a bit. I have no idea what English called weekdays before say year 1000 though? More planets? Other Gods?

[Marcellus]

To answer the original OP question.

From the movie Pulp Friction.

The character Marcellus Wallace.

[AlephZero]

 

No seriously, I'm wondering how the weekdays came to be in English language

Pretty much as you described it with the exception of Vidars day. A weird mixture of celestial stuff in the sky and old norse/ anglo/ german Gods.

The Vikings did their unfair share to spread the norse language and other ideas as part of their, eh, various activites. The Roman calender and weekdays existed before though, so likely just changed around the names a bit. I have no idea what English called weekdays before say year 1000 though? More planets? Other Gods?

Gods know, I guess

[ToolJoe]

My name is Joe and I like tools.. you can put the rest together