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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #60 on: March 06, 2008, 10:42:00 PM
Even though I'm a sworn greenie now, I'd love to tinker around on one of those :drool:

And Bob, if I'm ever over that way, you can take me for a guided tour :)
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #61 on: March 06, 2008, 10:43:38 PM
Yeah but your beer's too weak, even if it is colder :D
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #62 on: March 06, 2008, 10:44:44 PM
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Just the big name brands. We have smaller breweries that put out respectable stuff.
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #63 on: March 06, 2008, 10:46:58 PM
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Yeah but your beer's too weak, even if it is colder
Just the big name brands. We have smaller breweries that put out respectable stuff.
Thats probably very true, but then I don't drink anyway :)
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #64 on: March 06, 2008, 10:51:49 PM
 We keep the beer weak,but our true glory is moonshine..America's greatest legacy of of it's Scotch-Irish heritage :D
Jack Roush still comes back to Manchester,his boyhood home,just a few miles downriver from me.The IWM is high on my list of museums to see.
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #65 on: March 06, 2008, 10:54:05 PM
We keep the beer weak,but our true glory is moonshine..America's greatest legacy of of it's Scotch-Irish heritage :D
Jack Roush still comes back to Manchester,his boyhood home,just a few miles downriver from me.The IWM is high on my list of museums to see.
It's a good museum, and well worth a visit, it's just a shame the London one's so small :(, the one at Duxford is bloody brilliant though :)
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #66 on: March 06, 2008, 11:05:33 PM
 Also on my list is Bovington,and the FAA Museum at Yeovilton,and the 8th Air Force Museum,which I want to say is at Bassingbourne...I may be wrong.
       Micky when you do make it over ,do it in summer,and time your visit with the Dayton Air Show,the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds alternate appearances,Canada's Snowbirds come in frequently;not to mention all sorts of vintage warbirds.
        When my daughter lived in Vandalia,which is where Dayton's airport is located,she lived 4 blocks from the airport.I had a terrific view,the Thunderbirds were there that year.One plane that caught my attention was a DH Venom.
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #67 on: March 07, 2008, 12:21:29 AM
We keep the beer weak,but our true glory is moonshine..America's greatest legacy of of it's Scotch-Irish heritage :D
Jack Roush still comes back to Manchester,his boyhood home,just a few miles downriver from me.The IWM is high on my list of museums to see.
It's a good museum, and well worth a visit, it's just a shame the London one's so small :(, the one at Duxford is bloody brilliant though :)

I love the one in Duxford.  Fancy a trip one day.  :pok:
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #68 on: March 07, 2008, 01:46:41 AM
Slightly of topic, but I nearly got kicked out of the Imperial war museum in london for touching the tail on there mustang...

http://www.pan3sixty.co.uk/tours/iwm/qt-small/iwm01.html

if you click to panoramic, you can see why they got angry with me

Is that a Focke-Wulf next to the V2 rocket?
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #69 on: March 07, 2008, 08:48:52 AM
Slightly of topic, but I nearly got kicked out of the Imperial war museum in london for touching the tail on there mustang...

http://www.pan3sixty.co.uk/tours/iwm/qt-small/iwm01.html

if you click to panoramic, you can see why they got angry with me

Is that a Focke-Wulf next to the V2 rocket?
Yep good old FW190 :)
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #70 on: March 07, 2008, 08:51:07 AM
Also on my list is Bovington,and the FAA Museum at Yeovilton,and the 8th Air Force Museum,which I want to say is at Bassingbourne...I may be wrong.

I've been to both the Bovington tank and the FAA museum, and there both excellent :), I can still remember the little thrill of fear I got at about 15 years old, and stood in front of a king tiger :o
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #71 on: March 07, 2008, 08:51:37 AM
We keep the beer weak,but our true glory is moonshine..America's greatest legacy of of it's Scotch-Irish heritage :D
Jack Roush still comes back to Manchester,his boyhood home,just a few miles downriver from me.The IWM is high on my list of museums to see.
It's a good museum, and well worth a visit, it's just a shame the London one's so small :(, the one at Duxford is bloody brilliant though :)

I love the one in Duxford.  Fancy a trip one day.  :pok:
Maybe we could make it a group thing :)
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #72 on: March 08, 2008, 01:46:29 AM


It was old and slow compared to western fighters, but my favorite plane from WWII was the Ju-87G-1 "Tank Buster" Stuka. Don't ask me why.  :think:

Something evil about the look of the whole aircraft, don't you think?

By the way, here is some awesome gun camera footage of the 37mm cannons in action: 

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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #73 on: March 08, 2008, 02:13:58 AM
RAF aircraft were capable of attacking the Stuka dive bomber at will unless they were supported by escort fighters.


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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #74 on: March 08, 2008, 02:19:52 AM
Just about any dive bomber was vulnerable,except possibly the Il-2 Stormovik and Junkers Ju-88(and it was used as a dive bomber occasionally).
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Reply #75 on: March 08, 2008, 02:27:35 AM
....and yet the Stukas ran rampant on the western front early in the war, and on the eastern front throughout the entire war.


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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #76 on: March 08, 2008, 02:33:30 AM
 And don't forget the Douglas Dauntless which saw frontline action right up to VJ-Day.
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #77 on: March 08, 2008, 09:26:55 AM
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It was old and slow compared to western fighters, but my favorite plane from WWII was the Ju-87G-1 "Tank Buster" Stuka. Don't ask me why.  :think:

Something evil about the look of the whole aircraft, don't you think?

By the way, here is some awesome gun camera footage of the 37mm cannons in action: 


Yep it was an evil looking aircraft, and the jerico horn was an inspired idea for devestating moral, did you ever see the version with the hospital pods ???, not that just looked plain odd, but not as odd as the BV 141!


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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #78 on: March 08, 2008, 09:27:56 AM
RAF aircraft were capable of attacking the Stuka dive bomber at will unless they were supported by escort fighters.
But they couldnt intercept it in a dive ;)
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #79 on: March 08, 2008, 09:28:59 AM
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It was old and slow compared to western fighters, but my favorite plane from WWII was the Ju-87G-1 "Tank Buster" Stuka. Don't ask me why.  :think:

Something evil about the look of the whole aircraft, don't you think?

By the way, here is some awesome gun camera footage of the 37mm cannons in action: 


Yep it was an evil looking aircraft, and the jerico horn was an inspired idea for devestating moral, did you ever see the version with the hospital pods ???, not that just looked plain odd, but not as odd as the BV 141!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blohm_&_Voss_BV_141
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #80 on: March 08, 2008, 03:47:47 PM
Yep it was an evil looking aircraft, and the jerico horn was an inspired idea for devestating moral, did you ever see the version with the hospital pods ???, not that just looked plain odd, but not as odd as the BV 141!

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What a goofy contraption! I love it! Makes me think the ale was flowing pretty freely at the Blohm & Voss factory the day they came up with that idea! :cheers:

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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #81 on: March 08, 2008, 04:45:58 PM
I think the ale flowed like a river through the Blohm & Voss works full time.I can't say I recall any design that came from them that resembled anything near orthodox.
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #82 on: March 08, 2008, 05:04:58 PM
 Since Luft '46 designs have already been brought up;why not talk about other designs and prototypes that never saw production.The McDonell XP-67 Moonbat is one of the sleekest might have beens ever.
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Reply #83 on: March 08, 2008, 05:48:54 PM
Nice! I've never heard of that one :)
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Reply #84 on: March 08, 2008, 06:18:58 PM
I think the ale flowed like a river through the Blohm & Voss works full time.I can't say I recall any design that came from them that resembled anything near orthodox.

Agreed! Here's another bit of design genius from Blohm & Voss, the BV 238.  ::)




Now we know where GE got the looks and styling for their F7 and F9 series of train locomotives! :D

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Reply #85 on: March 08, 2008, 07:17:46 PM
 The GE"covered wagons" did have a longer and more successful career though. The McDonell Moonbat crashed during flight tests,it was constantly plagued by engine problems;another case where airframe design was far ahead of powerplant design.
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #86 on: March 08, 2008, 10:21:43 PM
the last couple of nights, on the history international channel they've had a show called; "Battle Stations"
and they've had the history of the "Mosquito" of it's conception and design and history. it's been great,
all the great missions it took on.


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Reply #87 on: March 08, 2008, 10:55:36 PM
I've always had a soft spot for Russian planes from WWII-Modern, they just seem so interesting with some of their non-western design cues.


Saw a Yak-9 at the little airshow today. It was one of the few non-civvie planes that flew, did several fast and low fly-bys and some sweet climbs.




Although the IL-2 Sturmovik is still my favorite.


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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #88 on: March 09, 2008, 09:35:20 AM
The Germans truley feared the Lavochkin family of aircraft, and were formaly told never to engage them at medium altitudes!
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Re: World war two aviation
Reply #89 on: March 09, 2008, 10:43:55 AM
I've always had a soft spot for Russian planes from WWII-Modern, they just seem so interesting with some of their non-western design cues.



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