http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130792195683&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123this seller got really defensive when i suggested it was a fakeis not a fake and is A GERBER CLUTCH. We do not sale stock or carry knock offs of anything. Sorry for any misunderstanding.Maybe the seller is unaware they are selling fakes?I too was keen to get one, but why should if its a total fake and claiming to be something its not?. Like i said before i dont think its something people should support. Its a bit different when its a different no name brand that is not trying to trick the buyer into thinking they are buying a real genuine branded tool. I am only going buy what the experts say here and if they say its a fake and this has never been on the Gerber site then i wont buy it.
Yeah i know that, i got one but mine has Gerber on the pivot. There was another one called a Mini suspension too that just has different handles but the rest is the same as the Clutch. I just thought that that SS ebay one may have been a different version worth picking up.Would you say these are fakes though?http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Freeshipping-OEM-Gerber-Clutch-Mini-Tool-mini-pliers-Gerber-keyring-EDC-folding-pocket-knife-20pcs-lot/674895233.htmlI believe the clutch was made in China anyway, so i wonder if some sellers are getting them direct from the factory and selling them locally in China on that alliexpress site? then again they could be fakes too
There may be a logical explaination for all this and maybe there is not some big grand operation of fake Gerbers out there. If there is i dont know why Gerber does not shut it down them selves, or maybe they dont care?
I am too but i kinda feel like i should give some a chance. Surely they all cant be crooks?The colour of mine are a TI gray colour. Are the ones known to be genuine this colour too or were they a black oxide colour?Ahh now look at this one here. Pliers? i did not think there was a pliers model?(Image removed from quote.)This pliers one looks different. Look at the pivot rivet. my Solstice looks the same in this link thoughhttp://www.aliexpress.com/item/MOQ-5pcs-OEM-Gerber-Mini-Pliers-Multi-Tool-Gerber-Knife-Screwdriver-Keyring-Pocket-Folding-Tool-For/571773267.htmlWish someone has done an in depth study on any of this fake stuff, how to tell real from fake apart and where its originating from exactly. Some of this stuff is very very good. Nothing is jumping out at meand saying the Soltice in my hands is not real.The box shown in link/photo above is what mine came in. There may be a logical explaination for all this and maybe there is not some big grand operation of fake Gerbers out there. If there is i dont know why Gerber does not shut it down them selves, or maybe they dont care?
Possibile scenario ...Gerber designs a toolGerber commissions a factory to make the toolGerber sells the toolGerber decides to stop selling the tool, and stops placing orders on the factory...Factory still has the tooling ...Factory decides it's going to carry on making them as they made money on them when Gerber were buying them, so now they can make the money before plus some of the margin Gerber were making. They continue to put Gerbers name on it to give the tool credibility and stop it looking like a cheaper knockoff even if materially it's the same item. That's why they end up in a box for a later model - they are not legitimately in production anymore. Gerber gets no money for these items even though it's their design and bears their name and logo etc. By the time Gerber discover and take action there's tens/hundreds of thousands of these that have been produced which will be sold off via various outlets.Look hard enough and you'll find several tools out there that appear to have had a similar story IMO. Cattlemans Ranchhand, Buck X-Tracts and others I can't recall offhand
The plier version is and isn't legitimate. It's kind of an odd story really, and I'm not certain I have all the facts straight myself so feel free to correct me if I have it wrong somewhere.The same company that made the Solstice for Gerber also made a plier version but Gerber never licensed them. So, they were produced by the same company that made the Solstice for Gerber, but they aren't actually Gerber models.At least that's my understanding anyway.Def
The plier version is and isn't legitimate. It's kind of an odd story really, and I'm not certain I have all the facts straight myself so feel free to correct me if I have it wrong somewhere.The same company that made the Solstice for Gerber also made a plier version but Gerber never licensed them. So, they were produced by the same company that made the Solstice for Gerber, but they aren't actually Gerber models.At least that's my understanding anyway.DefSent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2