The real question is do you want to argue it with the bobbie headed mother smurfers. They could claim it's a blade and that you're an assassin then you find yourself in an interrogation room grilled on who you planned to assassinate for hours until you confess to some kidnapping just to get them to shut up and let you sleep.
Ive tired to carry a set up that is uk legal and although i would prefer my blade on my ppp ive read that because the handles closed acts as a kind of lock (a rather flimsy lock lol) i removed it a while back and fitted a wood saw and replaced sogs crap file for a cheapy one i had lying around that is actually better, so my problem is the Awl would the police if they asked to see my sog think or say the awl is a blade ? thanks for any advice with this and then if i replace it what could i fit
Quote from: Zed on December 10, 2012, 02:34:37 PMIve tired to carry a set up that is uk legal and although i would prefer my blade on my ppp ive read that because the handles closed acts as a kind of lock (a rather flimsy lock lol) i removed it a while back and fitted a wood saw and replaced sogs crap file for a cheapy one i had lying around that is actually better, so my problem is the Awl would the police if they asked to see my sog think or say the awl is a blade ? thanks for any advice with this and then if i replace it what could i fit You've kinda got the wrong end of the legal stick me thinks. I don't think it's because the closed handles act as a sort of lock, I would say the reason is that the blade can't be readily folded as required to be defined as a "penkinfe" or UK legal EDC. "For a knife to be a folding pocket-knife within the meaning of this section, it must be readily and immediately foldable at all times, simply by the folding process"If you think this is correct, then the same would apply to the awl.For me, I wouldn't be worried. Never been stopped and searched. If I was with the above MT I'm sure the PC wouldn't pick up on the awl being a blade etc.But each to thier own, if you are not happy, then take it out..............(Image removed from quote.)
So.... does the toothpick on a SAK count as a fixed Blade??It is sharp, hard, does not fold....
Quote from: dks on December 10, 2012, 05:21:55 PMSo.... does the toothpick on a SAK count as a fixed Blade??It is sharp, hard, does not fold....In Cyprus maybe? But we're talking about UK law.
The law was written in such a way as to allow coppers to use common sense. Whether they are willing and able to do so depends on the individual.Err..Common sense and coppers... I never knew there was a connection
Quote from: tosh on December 10, 2012, 04:39:22 PMThe law was written in such a way as to allow coppers to use common sense. Whether they are willing and able to do so depends on the individual.Err..Common sense and coppers... I never knew there was a connection Let's not knock the police force/service. After all remember they don't make the laws, they are there to uphold the laws. Also keep in mind, after weeks of training they are put on the street and can not be expected to know and understand the fine detailed points of the many thousands of laws in the UK straight away.
The law was written in such a way as to allow coppers to use common sense. Whether they are willing and able to do so depends on the individual.
Quote from: Essexman on December 10, 2012, 06:30:17 PMQuote from: tosh on December 10, 2012, 04:39:22 PMThe law was written in such a way as to allow coppers to use common sense. Whether they are willing and able to do so depends on the individual.Err..Common sense and coppers... I never knew there was a connection Let's not knock the police force/service. After all remember they don't make the laws, they are there to uphold the laws. Also keep in mind, after weeks of training they are put on the street and can not be expected to know and understand the fine detailed points of the many thousands of laws in the UK straight away.It was written in humour.My neighbour is an ex-police inspector, very old school, very sensible, very straight...spot on.However, my few dealings with the younger police officers of today are not quite so favourable, most I hear are fresh out of Uni' without any real life experiances to call on, but suddenly young and with the full weight of the law behind them makes for a very cocky attitude. We need only see the ridiculous TV programmes here in the UK, the police wearing fashionable shades often seen antagonising those they pull for a show down of power - I suppose it makes good/exciting TV. But in general, this modern day conceited Plod has now lost an awful lot of respect here in the UK - but that's my view.
Thanks for getting us back on track mate Good to hear your lad is putting a good word for all uss amiable nutters
I'm not really knocking Gerbers per-se, but out of the litteraly dozens of multis I own, I only have one Gerber, a suspension I think. Thought about getting a Diesel for a while, maybe one day. Gerbers dont really do it for me
Quote from: thesuper on December 19, 2012, 05:50:19 PMI'm not really knocking Gerbers per-se, but out of the litteraly dozens of multis I own, I only have one Gerber, a suspension I think. Thought about getting a Diesel for a while, maybe one day. Gerbers dont really do it for me Hmmm ... Not necessarily their crowning glory that one .........
Quote from: 50ft-trad on December 19, 2012, 04:28:32 PMThanks for getting us back on track mate Good to hear your lad is putting a good word for all uss amiable nutters TBH thats how he generaly views me/us! He carries a Vic st spirit x on his duty belt I bought him a while back. He likes the practicality of it, he just doesnt get the collecting bit! Give it time! Many of his mates carry Gerbers.....theres no accounting for taste
This is the second account I have read of a bobby carrying a multi in the UK. What is his 'valid' reason for carrying a locking blade in public?