The Victorinox-Wenger Horn Handles thread

tosh · **Reply #60 on:** February 16, 2013, 11:39:54 PM

Quote from: Reinier on February 07, 2013, 04:18:04 PM

I see. I will look around for one for you. I have already bought and sold several SwissFlames and CampFlames so maybe I will find one for you

Thanks Reinier

Really appreciate that offer

AimlessWanderer · **Reply #61 on:** February 17, 2013, 12:03:26 AM

I suppose I ought to be posting this one here now

PTRSAK · **Reply #62 on:** February 17, 2013, 12:08:03 AM

nice... Streaky horn is nearly as good as streaky bacon.

Reinier · **Reply #63 on:** February 17, 2013, 08:19:50 AM

I don't really like bacon scales on my SAKs

MARIOS7319 · **Reply #64 on:** February 17, 2013, 11:43:34 AM

Quote from: 50ft-trad on February 17, 2013, 12:03:26 AM

I suppose I ought to be posting this one here now

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Beautiful

Wootz · **Reply #65 on:** February 17, 2013, 12:23:06 PM

Just got this in, payed 20 euro's for it. It is in great condition, I wasn't expecting that.
Snap is still strong on all tools, zero bladeplay, no bended tools, scales undamaged,
still got the old tweezers and toothpick. Blades need some polishing and sharpening,
then she will live in my pocket on sundays

1942 (?) Victor.Inox Armee Suisse 205k (84mm).

Reinier · **Reply #66 on:** February 17, 2013, 01:02:42 PM

EUR 20? That's a steal. Nice SAK!

Wootz · **Reply #67 on:** February 17, 2013, 01:20:25 PM

Well, it was 30 incl.shipping. Still a bargain. You do not find them on eBay anymore for that price.
Last one sold for 70 with broken blade tips!

Reinier · **Reply #68 on:** February 17, 2013, 01:37:02 PM

You mean the one that was sold for $67.99?

Wootz · **Reply #69 on:** February 17, 2013, 01:48:11 PM

Yep. Did you bought it?

Reinier · **Reply #70 on:** February 17, 2013, 01:59:47 PM

I can't say that I didn't

Wootz · **Reply #71 on:** February 17, 2013, 02:13:57 PM

LOL

Engineer · **Reply #72 on:** March 01, 2013, 03:01:28 AM

In 1980, I purchased an Executive with horn scales from a little stall down a side street off the main square in Munich, Germany. I've carried that ever since. About 10 years ago, I purchased another Executive with horn scales from a collector that I carry in my checked luggage when flying. I was recently in the hospital for about 10 days, and had my wife bring that "travel" Executive in so I could use it there. I'm now home, and the knife can't be found. If anyone has an Executive with horn scales or knows where I can buy one, I would greatly appreciate it if someone would e-mail me.

Thank you!

Reinier · **Reply #73 on:** March 01, 2013, 08:03:42 AM

That sucks! I have been searching for a horn Executive for a while now. If i find one I will let you know, sounds like you deserve it more.

And welcome to MTo!

nuphoria · **Reply #74 on:** March 01, 2013, 09:48:40 AM

That is a shame. One might turn up here for sale at some point... we have a lot of collectors here

Welcome to MTO

ICanFixThat · **Reply #75 on:** March 02, 2013, 07:25:48 PM

I just got this Wenger in the mail. Has a fair bit of rust for a SAK so I'll need to clean it up before I take more pictures. Very cool that the crossbow emblem is carved into the horn.

PTRSAK · **Reply #76 on:** March 02, 2013, 08:38:00 PM

ColoSwiss · **Reply #77 on:** March 02, 2013, 10:23:31 PM

Very nice! But is that horn or an early plastic like celluloid?

ICanFixThat · **Reply #78 on:** March 03, 2013, 01:33:23 AM

Quote from: ColoSwiss on March 02, 2013, 10:23:31 PM

Very nice! But is that horn or an early plastic like celluloid?

Well you know... I can't say... I thought I was buying horn... but today I did realize how close it looks to some scales I have on smaller knives which I think is not really horn... so I'm not sure about these, or the others for that matter.

So it is quite possible that these are not horn scales, which would be a bummer since I had to over pay for it, but it is still a very nice knife. Maybe as I clean it up I'll be able to figure out if it's horn, bone, or synthetic.

It's a neat knife all the same, I can't believe how much crap you can pull out of such a small space. It's certainly been well used, the blades are about done for... but I can sharpen them up and make them look fairly decent I think, and with modern sharpening they should not degrade any further really. There are cracks in the scale near the shackle because the shackle had been bent. Overall though the knife functions really well, needs a new scissor spring, but I like the really wide middle spring supporting the scissors and the saw. I think I have that wide spring on one other Wenger.

ColoSwiss · **Reply #79 on:** March 03, 2013, 03:37:31 AM

Know how it goes. Reason I was commenting is I have some smaller SAKs I thought were horn when I bought them (right column). But the more I look at them and compare them to genuine horn more doubtful I am. Still, glad to have them.

ICanFixThat · **Reply #80 on:** March 03, 2013, 04:28:14 AM

Quote from: ColoSwiss on March 03, 2013, 03:37:31 AM

Know how it goes. Reason I was commenting is I have some smaller SAKs I thought were horn when I bought them (right column). But the more I look at them and compare them to genuine horn more doubtful I am. Still, glad to have them.

Exactly... I have two samples of the knife at the lower right with slightly different coloring in the scales. I bought the first one thinking horn or bone, but as soon as I got it in my hand I thought no way. Then I went back and forth a little bit, got a second one with slightly different coloring and thought well maybe if the color varies naturally, but then I remember finding some information that pointed towards it just being an interesting synthetic.

The new one is a little greasy right now as it's in cleaning, so I can't mess with it, and sometimes has horn gets older its texture and feeling can be a bit misleading. They take on a natural polishing from use so well and become better with age.

I'll probably try to research it again once I have it cleaned up, if I don't end up messing it up.

ICanFixThat · **Reply #81 on:** March 09, 2013, 10:30:19 PM

This old 1950s knife is in pretty good shape. It could use some polishing on one side of the scales, and needs a little cleaning and sharpening. Love the feel of these old knives.

rmagralha · **Reply #82 on:** March 10, 2013, 04:30:54 AM

Congratulations! Amazing knife, those horn scales with apparent rivets are the next on my wishlist, but seems almost impossible to get one, even in ebay they don't appear too often....

Wootz · **Reply #83 on:** March 10, 2013, 12:59:56 PM

Sweet knife alright, but such a tease showing that armee-suisee book..awesome!
Any change we can have a peep inside?

Wootz · **Reply #84 on:** March 10, 2013, 01:03:47 PM

Quote from: rmagralha on March 10, 2013, 04:30:54 AM

Congratulations! Amazing knife, those horn scales with apparent rivets are the next on my wishlist, but seems almost impossible to get one, even in ebay they don't appear too often....

I got a feeling that the horn knives show up more often then cellidor with rivets, but could just be me.
Not sure, but IIRC you had to pay extra in those days for cellidor, horn was standard price.

rmagralha · **Reply #85 on:** March 10, 2013, 11:08:18 PM

Quote from: Wootz on March 10, 2013, 01:03:47 PM

Quote from: rmagralha on March 10, 2013, 04:30:54 AM
Congratulations! Amazing knife, those horn scales with apparent rivets are the next on my wishlist, but seems almost impossible to get one, even in ebay they don't appear too often....

I got a feeling that the horn knives show up more often then cellidor with rivets, but could just be me.
Not sure, but IIRC you had to pay extra in those days for cellidor, horn was standard price.

The problem Wootz, is that many of those horn with apparent rivets only ship inside Europe.

jazzbass · **Reply #86 on:** March 10, 2013, 11:30:31 PM

Quote from: Wootz on March 10, 2013, 01:03:47 PM

I got a feeling that the horn knives show up more often then cellidor with rivets, but could just be me.
Not sure, but IIRC you had to pay extra in those days for cellidor, horn was standard price.

I don't think the horn was cheaper. I think the issue is that the old cellidor doesn't age very well, esp if exposed to elements. I've seen a lot of the early cellidor knives where the scale have shrunk, disintegrated, cracked or melted away. I think what happens often is that these knives just get thrown away as junk. The horn wears better and lasts longer, so as a result there are a lot of the left now.

Wootz · **Reply #87 on:** March 12, 2013, 11:08:02 AM

Quote from: jazzbass on March 10, 2013, 11:30:31 PM

Quote from: Wootz on March 10, 2013, 01:03:47 PM
I got a feeling that the horn knives show up more often then cellidor with rivets, but could just be me.
Not sure, but IIRC you had to pay extra in those days for cellidor, horn was standard price.

I don't think the horn was cheaper. I think the issue is that the old cellidor doesn't age very well, esp if exposed to elements. I've seen a lot of the early cellidor knives where the scale have shrunk, disintegrated, cracked or melted away. I think what happens often is that these knives just get thrown away as junk. The horn wears better and lasts longer, so as a result there are a lot of the left now.

I mixed things up, you are right mate (as always

You had to pay extra for a shield on the scales, and for a bail:

Wootz · **Reply #88 on:** March 12, 2013, 11:16:18 AM

Not from the factory, but just have to show this 111 with buffalo horn.

Made by Cosco (former SOSAK member):

Wootz · **Reply #89 on:** March 12, 2013, 11:21:13 AM

Ostrich scales:

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