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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #30 on: July 02, 2012, 06:33:43 AM
That turned out great. Kudos
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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #31 on: July 02, 2012, 10:33:38 AM
Amazing results  :o Without the photos I wouldn't have believed it was the same tool. You've done a really good job.
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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #32 on: July 02, 2012, 03:24:49 PM
Quote from: Bruce909 on June 30, 2012, 11:13:58 PM
Thanks to Gareth I have a subject for this thread!

I bought a really bad looking PST on ebay last week and it needs a lot of attention to bring it back to...collectors condition.  It currently is in trash collector condition let's hope for something better.

Bob and Dunc, if you think this thread might be under a different category please do not hesitate to move it.

First let look at what we have to work with:

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Interestingly it seems to be in decent condition other than the rust.  The milled awl looks good and the blade is in great shape.

So the first thing that this tool needs is something to stop the rust.  So into a penetrating oil dip, the jar that I put the tool in has a mixture of WD-40, PBlaster, Kroil Oil, CRC Marine and who knows what else.  I think this one will stay in the dip for a few weeks.  I leave the tools in the sun so they get hot and it cools off at night so there is good opportunity for expansion and contraction.  The jar has been in the sun for a few hours and I expect it will get a little hotter than the reading shown on my temperature gun.

In the dip:
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You don't want to touch the tools after they have been in the sun for more than a minute:
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Suggestions on how to clean it up are appreciated.  Keep in mind I have a really nice ultrasonic cleaner for the next steps.

More to come.   

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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #33 on: July 03, 2012, 02:55:13 AM
You totally nailed that cleanup job Bruce :ahhh :tu: So glad it turned out so nice for ya :cheers: I was also pleased and shocked how well that grinded side came back to a factory look :drool:
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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #34 on: July 06, 2012, 09:26:03 AM
I dont know about everyone else but id like to know about the scotch brite wheel set up. Seem like it might be a good thing to add to a tool collection. Any info you feel like sharing would be appreciated.

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poor, poor, PST
Reply #35 on: July 06, 2012, 10:23:32 AM
Quote from: tattoocharge on July 06, 2012, 09:26:03 AM
I dont know about everyone else but id like to know about the scotch brite wheel set up. Seem like it might be a good thing to add to a tool collection. Any info you feel like sharing would be appreciated.
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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #36 on: July 06, 2012, 07:29:51 PM
The wheel I am using is the Scotch-Brite™ Metal Finishing Wheel in 8" diameter 1" width 3" center hole in the 4A CRS at least that's what I think it is.  I went to a local industrial hardware store and asked about the Scotch-Brite wheels.  I gave him the info about grit I got from Leatherman and the guy said that the wheels had designations like 2S for silicon carbide or 4A for aluminum oxide.  He asked me about the color and I told him it was dark pink.  He came back with what he said was Maroon and looked and felt like what I needed.  It had a 3" hole in the wheel so I needed to buy adapters also which were not cheap.  It all mounted nicely to my bench grinder. 

The wheels and adapter were pricey, I got 2 wheels and the adapters and the bill was over $ 200.00. 

Here is a 3m Metal finishing catalog that shows the wheel on page 9 and shows all the available arbors and styles of wheels.  http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=66666UF6EVsSyXTt5xT_4xs6EVtQEVs6EVs6EVs6E666666--&fn=61-5002-8001-3.pdf

I'll take pictures of my bench grinder and the spare wheel if you want?

Bruce 


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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #37 on: July 06, 2012, 08:31:49 PM

Pictures are always good Bruce  :tu:
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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #38 on: July 06, 2012, 08:46:40 PM
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Pictures are always good Bruce  :tu:
Indeed, pics would be great. :)
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poor, poor, PST
Reply #39 on: July 06, 2012, 09:09:42 PM
Quote from: Gareth on July 06, 2012, 08:46:40 PM
Quote from: sparky415 on July 06, 2012, 08:31:49 PM

Pictures are always good Bruce  :tu:
Indeed, pics would be great. :)
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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #40 on: July 07, 2012, 12:59:07 AM
Here is 2 pictures of the Scotch-Brite wheel on my bench grinder. 



You can see part of the adapter/flange that allows the use of the wheel on a 3/4" shank in this picture. 



Here is my spare wheel:





You can see the business end of the wheel in this picture:



Bruce

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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #41 on: July 07, 2012, 03:25:18 AM
There's a special rung in hell for people who let PSTs lapse into that state!! :D

Cracking clean-up job Bruce.
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Reply #42 on: July 07, 2012, 08:25:45 AM

^  :D

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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #43 on: July 14, 2012, 04:27:34 AM
Wow talk about rust eating oil, it looked 80% better just after your "mix" dip.

I got one from the flea market a while back that I just had to work the gunk out of, it has some sort of black mystery gunk on it locking up the tools and it took a few days to work it out,  I like your method better.


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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #44 on: July 20, 2012, 09:00:51 PM
Nicely done.
I also found an old PST. The thing is practically rusted shut. My plan(unless told otherwise) is to soak it in some CLR/Water mix, than just slather the thing in 3 in 1(or WD40... not sure which would be better) and resharpen the blades by hand.

There is a bit of play in the pliers(maybe half a mm. Hard to see, but you can deff. feel it) that i guess cant be fixed without replacing the entire plier head. Sucks, cause other than that, the pliers are in amazing condition(No marks on the wire cutters, nice clean sheer)

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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #45 on: July 22, 2012, 11:52:09 PM
Thanks for the complements guys (ladies too), I appreciate it very much.

Just a a point of clarification:  The "dip" I used was a oil called Kroil from Kano Labs www.kanolabs.com and it worked great.  I called up and spoke to one of their engineers and he recommended I try a product call SiliKroil just like Kroil but with silicone for lubrication.  I bought a gallon and need to find a old carburetor cleaning can with the basket inside to use for the container.  I will start another post when I get the new SiliKroil in use.

I used Nano Oil on the tool a few weeks ago and checked it out today and WOW it really in smooth.  I highly recommend the Nano Oil products. 

The next thing for me is to try to duplicate the matte finish like a Sideclip or the tools on a Core.  I am thinking maybe a rock tumbler with sand or glass media inside?  I have a bunch of other mistreated tools to try out next...I will keep everybody posted.

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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #46 on: July 23, 2012, 04:11:16 AM
 :tu: Can't wait to see the before and after tool pics :D
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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #47 on: January 17, 2013, 07:43:48 PM
Quote from: Scott86 on July 20, 2012, 09:00:51 PM
Nicely done.
I also found an old PST. The thing is practically rusted shut. My plan(unless told otherwise) is to soak it in some CLR/Water mix, than just slather the thing in 3 in 1(or WD40... not sure which would be better) and resharpen the blades by hand.

There is a bit of play in the pliers(maybe half a mm. Hard to see, but you can deff. feel it) that i guess cant be fixed without replacing the entire plier head. Sucks, cause other than that, the pliers are in amazing condition(No marks on the wire cutters, nice clean sheer)
I'm not recommending this, but it may be possible to tighten the plier joint with a center punch. That might ruin it's looks, but at least it might work better.

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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #48 on: January 18, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
Oh it pains me to see a PST in such condition :dwts:.  How's it looking nowadays?
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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #49 on: January 18, 2013, 04:55:46 PM
Quote from: Monrogue on January 18, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
Oh it pains me to see a PST in such condition :dwts:.  How's it looking nowadays?

Trust me it's looking very well these days  ;)
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Reply #50 on: January 18, 2013, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: Dunc on January 18, 2013, 04:55:46 PM
Quote from: Monrogue on January 18, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
Oh it pains me to see a PST in such condition :dwts:.  How's it looking nowadays?

Trust me it's looking very well these days  ;)

Oh good :D  Are there pics of it now?  I haven't looked through the whole thread yet, but I will. 
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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #51 on: January 18, 2013, 05:59:58 PM
Monrogue...looks like the end result pics are on page 2 about mid way down.

Direct link to the post...
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Reply #52 on: January 18, 2013, 06:14:40 PM
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Monrogue...looks like the end result pics are on page 2 about mid way down.

Direct link to the post...
http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,38478.msg617852.html#msg617852

Thanks Lynn!  Wow, what a big difference.  It looks so much better, all shiny and pretty :D  Good job Bruce! :salute: :tu:
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Re: poor, poor, PST
Reply #53 on: January 19, 2013, 08:52:48 AM
Quote from: Dunc on January 18, 2013, 04:55:46 PM
Quote from: Monrogue on January 18, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
Oh it pains me to see a PST in such condition :dwts:.  How's it looking nowadays?

Trust me it's looking very well these days  ;)

I'm betting that Dunc is the ultimate expert on the condition of the PST formerly known as poor poor PST.   

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Reply #54 on: January 19, 2013, 08:59:44 AM
Oh is Dunc the proud owner of the former poor, poor PST?
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