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Corkscrew - is it true?! 6873

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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2013, 03:16:25 AM »
I actually used mine for the intended purpose the other day. Wine :). Funny thing is the cork was hard to come out so I thought how do this work? Then it occurred to me. The slight back movement the corkscrew and other back side tools do have a purpose. I screwed it in until it was flush with the end. Then a slight push with sak and it was uncorked. Gently pulled and out it came. Good on ya Vic. Works like a charm.
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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2013, 04:48:14 AM »
"Corkscrew: Just start the point in near the center of the cork and turn; the corkscrew will naturally follow its point on in. The hardest part of pulling the cork is to first get it moving, that first millimeter. This can be done easily by turning the corkscrew all the way down, until the back of the SAK is on top of the bottle. Lever the body of the knife a bit against the top of the bottle, as if starting to close the corkscrew (along the length of the knife, not sideways) to start the cork. This will put a small dent in the alox divider, but now you’ve got a veteran SAK. Then hold the bottle between your feet and pull straight up. Try not to hit yourself in the face. Sommeliers say to turn the bottle and not the cork, so maybe don’t put it between your feet in a French restaurant."     
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« Last Edit: April 03, 2013, 05:03:06 AM by J Mackrel Jones »

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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2013, 06:56:18 PM »
Actually, Vic recommends not using the handle for leverage.

From http://www.victorinox.com/ch/content/faq_SAK_customer_service_page/category/1 :

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Fully insert the corkscrew into the cork and pull the cork vertically upwards and out of the bottle. Try to avoid twisting or tilting the knife body

Just use straight arms (yes, both arms) and pull with the shoulder muscles, instead of the arm muscles, if the cork puts up a fight.
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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2013, 12:44:50 AM »
Who you gonna believe?  Me and TattoSteve, or some knife specialist in Switzerland?
I Like a little dent on my Climber's divider.  Gives it character.
The link above does not work for me:  the first time it went to the Victorinox US main page where a Search for Using corkscrew says No search results found; Use of corkscrew ditto; second time the page says Error processing your request.  Do you suppose they read my mind in Ibach?
I take it back, Victorinox !  You guys are the greatest !
I need a beer.  One Old Chub, please.  Not too cold.         :cheers:

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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2013, 12:12:57 PM »
Who you gonna believe?  Me and TattoSteve, or some knife specialist in Switzerland?

Good point! :D

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The link above does not work for me:  the first time it went to the Victorinox US main page where a Search for Using corkscrew says No search results found; Use of corkscrew ditto; second time the page says Error processing your request.  Do you suppose they read my mind in Ibach?

I think it's the genius of their region sensitive site which optimises for difficulty in sharing links across the pond.  :rant:

(Pet peeve: Why don't corporations understand sharing links from their site is good for business? Instead they choose to hire some manager's nephew to implement the entire site as a flash application it's not even possible to cut and paste from.)

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I need a beer.  One Old Chub, please.  Not too cold.         :cheers:

The ultimate solution to corkscrew discussions... ;)
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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2013, 07:28:01 PM »

The link above does not work for me:  the first time it went to the Victorinox US main page where a Search for Using corkscrew says No search results found; Use of corkscrew ditto; second time the page says Error processing your request.  Do you suppose they read my mind in Ibach?

I think it's the genius of their region sensitive site which optimises for difficulty in sharing links across the pond.  :rant:

(Pet peeve: Why don't corporations understand sharing links from their site is good for business? Instead they choose to hire some manager's nephew to implement the entire site as a flash application it's not even possible to cut and paste from.)



Yea, that localisation thingie they did ruined a good resource site.  :-\


Here's a screenshot from the part you quoted form the page. 

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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2013, 08:13:56 PM »
Received this yesterday - doesn't actually answer the question  :-\:

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Thank your for your mail and your interest in our products

All main-parts/tools are made in Ibach/Switzerland. There are some e.g. the corkscrew, small keyring that we do the finishing here in Ibach.

However there are other subcomponents (rivet, bushings, scissors springs and the ballpoint pen) that we use to manufacture the different features.

Therefore all main-parts like tools, springs, dividing layers and the original Victorinox handles are produced here in Ibach.

We hope that this mail answers your questions. If you have other queries please dont hesitate to re-contact us

With best regards,

Victorinox AG

Daniel Mettler
Global Customer Service

- Or was I too preoccupied with other thoughts, like: if toast always lands jam side down, and a cat always lands on its feet, what happens when you strap a piece of toast, jam side up, to the back of a cat?
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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2013, 09:38:54 AM »
Received this yesterday - doesn't actually answer the question  :-\:

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Thank your for your mail and your interest in our products

All main-parts/tools are made in Ibach/Switzerland. There are some e.g. the corkscrew, small keyring that we do the finishing here in Ibach.

However there are other subcomponents (rivet, bushings, scissors springs and the ballpoint pen) that we use to manufacture the different features.

Therefore all main-parts like tools, springs, dividing layers and the original Victorinox handles are produced here in Ibach.

We hope that this mail answers your questions. If you have other queries please dont hesitate to re-contact us

With best regards,

Victorinox AG

Daniel Mettler
Global Customer Service

As I read it; it answers the question (and more), and is consistent with their previous responses to this same question. 
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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2013, 10:31:59 AM »
I guess, but he didn't actually say the corkscrews are made in France. Mind you, we pretty much knew that anyway :).

- Or was I too preoccupied with other thoughts, like: if toast always lands jam side down, and a cat always lands on its feet, what happens when you strap a piece of toast, jam side up, to the back of a cat?
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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2013, 10:49:17 PM »
After the parcel hook, the corkscrew is the most maligned tool on a SAK.  But, haters gonna hate...   :whistle:

I prefer the corkscrew to the phillips by far; my two main uses of it are for holding the mini-driver for tightening up my glasses, and using it to undo knots in my shoe or boot laces.  I also use the hook for doing fine detail tightening of the laces of my hiking boots.  My wife and I are both avid hikers, and I have exceptionally wide feet (4xE), so I have to resort to some creative lacing strategies at times, and the hook and corkscrew together are invaluable tools for me when hiking!

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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2013, 01:57:44 AM »
I guess, but he didn't actually say the corkscrews are made in France. Mind you, we pretty much knew that anyway :).
I would not be surprised if the actual source for the unfinished parts changes with different contracts.
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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2013, 05:20:46 PM »
Got some interesting info from Pierre-Andre  in Switzerland :
"Thiers is the capital for the french cutlery and a few miles away is living Charles Couttier, a "Maître artisan coutelier".  I visited him a few years ago to buy him a knife and while talking I asked me from which area I was coming. When he heard that I was a Swiss guy, a smile came on his face and and he said "Ah Victorinox" with an obvious pleasure. He then explained to me that his father was working for the cutlery industry. At this time, a lot of workers had their own workshop and were acting as contract manufacturers. When times were hard, the situation of these workers was difficult to the low demand. Fortunately, Charles's father made corkscrew bits for Victorinox, ensuring a continuous income for the family. As a boy, Charles helped his father and earned his first money, using the hand driven machine, still operational as I saw from a demo from Mr Couttier. It was the first time I had the opportunity to knew a bit more about the SAKs.
Today, the corkcrew bits for Wenger and Victorinox are still manufactured in the area of Thiers."
« Last Edit: October 23, 2013, 04:29:34 PM by Dunc »

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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2013, 07:27:16 PM »
Thanks for the update. :salute: So we know have confirmation that the corkscrew is made in France. That it's actually made in the region of Thier is reassuring with it's long history. 
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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2013, 09:30:05 PM »
Pierre-Andre (who lives in Switzerland) also told the story of meeting a bunch of knife makers and fans in a park in France and having to lend them his SAK corkscrew for their vin francais.  Yes, he was appropriately "compensated".

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Re: Corkscrew - is it true?!
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2013, 04:55:01 PM »
Is this the chap to finally give the definitive answer as to the reason for the fluting?  That is if it's not been answered already. :D. Good info nonetheless. :tu:

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