Les Stroud Multitool

[Grant Lamontagne]

I know there wad another thread on this but I'm on my phone so I'm starting a new one. 

Just listed on FB:
 http://www.smkw.com/webapp/eCommerce/products/Camillus/Camillus%C2%AE+Les+Stroud+SK+Engage+Multi-Tool/CM19125.html

For $30 I figure its worth a look.

Def

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[Nhoj]

Still not a real picture!

[styx]

Can't say I'll expect much from it. gonna be interesting to see if he uses it in the new Survivorman series

[captain spaulding]

Well I think it's going to be crap, but I hope i'm wrong. I would be pretty disappointed with Les if he designed it and it came out terrible. IMHO it seems like its aimed at the impulse buyer and people who watch his show. Kinda on the same level as the Bear Grylls tools and the LM Wingman. I expect to like the Wingman more though. Like I said I hope i'm wrong. 

[ducttapetech]

I kinda surpised that Leatherman and him have not done something. He used a leatherman a bunch in his show.

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[Gareth]

Still not a real picture!

that's what's got me worried as well.  Can't say I've got huge expectations for this, despite being a big Les fan.   However lets not totally write it off until a few of us have had a chance to play with one.

[styx]

well considering that he is a very positive personality one would really think that Leatherman or Victorinox would bite for a collaboration. he used 'em both, although he used a Wave and Charge Ti more. perhaps something would come from Wenger if it wasn't getting shut down. Although in a few interviews Les stated that he chose the company because he wanted his gear to be affordable

[Grathr]

I hope for Les sake, that it turns out to be a nice affordable tool of decent quality.
Looking forward to the first reviews by a member here.

[enki_ck]

The fact it has a Robbie screwdriver shows Les had at least a bit of input on the design.

[captain spaulding]

The fact it has a Robbie screwdriver shows Les had at least a bit of input on the design.

agreed. 

[Grant Lamontagne]

Yes and no....

Putting a Robertson on it makes it look like there's a Canadian influence, but the reality is that it's pretty useless in a survival tool.  Most Robertson screws are wood screws and I really can't see them being needed in a survival situation unless you somehow need to build a survival deck.

A screwdriver in a survival situation is really only useful if you can salvage some equipment somewhere- a radio, camp stove, GPS etc, none of which would ever have Robertson screws.

On top of that, Robertson's are pretty specific- a number two screwdriver won't work in a number one or a number three screw, so chances are slim that you'd just happen to have the one you'd need.

Def

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[Nhoj]

Yes and no....

Putting a Robertson on it makes it look like there's a Canadian influence, but the reality is that it's pretty useless in a survival tool.  Most Robertson screws are wood screws and I really can't see them being needed in a survival situation unless you somehow need to build a survival deck.

A screwdriver in a survival situation is really only useful if you can salvage some equipment somewhere- a radio, camp stove, GPS etc, none of which would ever have Robertson screws.

On top of that, Robertson's are pretty specific- a number two screwdriver won't work in a number one or a number three screw, so chances are slim that you'd just happen to have the one you'd need.

Def

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No Grant you build a survival birdhouse and lure birds in to eat. Isn't that what you Canadians do?

[Grant Lamontagne]

Half the year here the only birds around are either too small to eat (chickadees) or are more likely to eat you (snowy owls), so that's probably not such a useful idea.   

It is entirely likely that when lost in the woods and attempting to survive that you could possibly find an old cottage in need of repair, so you disassemble the deck to provide lumber to repair the roof, but I doubt very much you are going to take the time to undo a pile of screws with a multitool just to drive them back in again.

If they really wanted to market it as a Canadian Survival Tool they should have included a hockey puck- at least that could be helpful as a hammer.

Def

[enki_ck]

BTW has anyone looked at the back of the packaging photo?



And a close up of the tools description.


Compared to the main picture with the tools fanned.


The reamer with sawing eye is gone and is replaced with the fish scaler/hook remover, the can/bottle opener changed shape, the hook remover used to be on top of the saw but is gone now, no more tweezers and the Robbie appears to be in the place where they were.

Oh, and come on, placing the file on that small screwdriver? Where did we see that before? And that ended badly. I see lots of broken screwdrivers in the future. Not to mention, very useles.

Also, LED flashlight/whistle and fire starter? Didn't see any mention of these before.

[enki_ck]

This is not up to a good start at all.

[rdub934]

This thing looks like a Suspension, but with inside tools 

The fact that we are still looking at cartoons of what the tool is going to be has got me thinking this is not going to be a great tool. Also, renderings are cheaper than prototypes so when I see stuff like this, with a picture of a well respected expert/celebrity, I think they are just trying to stir up hype in the tool. I would be more excited about this tool if we were looking at pictures of prototypes, and reading articles about tests or reviews of preproduction models

[Grant Lamontagne]

I have to say that it is indeed not looking good so far, but I'll reserve judgment until I've had it in my hands and played with it to see what it's really like.

I'd also like to point out to any manufacturers that my name is also for sale, so feel free to start sending me offers....

Def

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[detron]

I have to say that it is indeed not looking good so far, but I'll reserve judgment until I've had it in my hands and played with it to see what it's really like.

I'd also like to point out to any manufacturers that my name is also for sale, so feel free to start sending me offers....

Def

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I cannot imagine a tool worthy of that name

[Grant Lamontagne]

I'm a tool worthy of that name....

Def

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[detron]

Nicely played DEF,   

I should have noticed that option when I posted 

[Grant Lamontagne]

Hey, you set me up like that, it looks bad on both of us if I don't knock it out of the park! 

As for a tool being worthy or not of my name, well, all I can say is there's nothing wrong with being a money grubbing whore, just don't be a cheap money grubbing whore.  When I see a dump truck full of cash coming up my street I'll sign just about anything. 

Def

[AimlessWanderer]

Well it looks like this tool is going to make the whole Bear Grylls line look very good indeed 

[Grathr]

The Les stroud knives turned out OK didn't they?
Time will show if the MT does too...

[Etherealicer]

How to make a survival MT.
Add a nylon sheath with a flashlight, a whistle and a firestarter. Seriously, I have to watch that show to figure out what he uses the Philips for in the wilderness.

[Grant Lamontagne]

Any broken equipment you may scrounge is a lot more likely to have Philips screws than Robertson.

Def

[captain spaulding]

I do remember the "South Pacific" episode (S02E16) where he uses the bit driver on his harmonica to take the metal piece off to make into a spear tip for fishing. I don't remember if it was a Philips/Flathead or Robertson or if I could even tell.

[comis]

This is not up to a good start at all.

Totally.

Not to be judgmental, but I am starting to suspect my SAK OHO trekker/GAK might be a more relevant survival tool than this...at this rate, this might just be another so-so light weight MT, which nothing special to offer besides the green color.   


Just off top my head:
-Scale 1 with whistle and led light at the end, removable; some kind of fire rod storage space under scale
-Scale 2 with embedded+replaceable compass and thermometer   
-lockable+replaceable real metal saw for ferro rod striking
-lockable blade, convex grind, drop point
-lockable wood saw
-Can opener
-one regular bits holder
-Glow in the dark parts

I only hope he or Camillus could read this. 

[Grant Lamontagne]

As we have discussed before, survival is largely in you, not in the tool.  You can't just grab a tool off the shelf at Wal Mart and expect to be able to survive in Antarctica or the jungle.  I'll bet Les could get a heck of a lot further with nothing than most of the people who buy this tool could get with it.

Def

[AimlessWanderer]

As we have discussed before, survival is largely in you, not in the tool.  You can't just grab a tool off the shelf at Wal Mart and expect to be able to survive in Antarctica or the jungle.  I'll bet Les could get a heck of a lot further with nothing than most of the people who buy this tool could get with it.

Def

If carrying a well made tool with a decent load out, I can make it from my house to the off-license and the local takeaway, even in foul weather - I know, I've done it. With the Les Stroud tool, on first impressions at least, that confidence is shattered.

I appreciate that some people wish to reserve judgement till they've tried the tool themselves, but I for one do not wish to be discovered on my own doorstep in a critical condition under a toppled wheely bin, because I had chosen to carry a substandard tool while trying to fetch a pizza. When a four pack of San Miguel and garlic bread supreme is at stake, I don't think it's worth taking unnecessary chances

[Gareth]

As we have discussed before, survival is largely in you, not in the tool.  You can't just grab a tool off the shelf at Wal Mart and expect to be able to survive in Antarctica or the jungle.  I'll bet Les could get a heck of a lot further with nothing than most of the people who buy this tool could get with it.

Def

If carrying a well made tool with a decent load out, I can make it from my house to the off-license and the local takeaway, even in foul weather - I know, I've done it. With the Les Stroud tool, on first impressions at least, that confidence is shattered.

I appreciate that some people wish to reserve judgement till they've tried the tool themselves, but I for one do not wish to be discovered on my own doorstep in a critical condition under a toppled wheely bin, because I had chosen to carry a substandard tool while trying to fetch a pizza. When a four pack of San Miguel and garlic bread supreme is at stake, I don't think it's worth taking unnecessary chances

Better to be safe than sorry mate.