The Star Trek thread

kirk13 · **on:** August 16, 2013, 07:08:11 PM

Enki made the mistake elsewhere of pointing out that there isn't a dedicated Star Trek thread...

Is get your geek on,and boldly go where MTo'er has gone before!

Qapla!

Taxi Dad · **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2013, 07:12:17 PM

and who better to start this thread .....our own Kirk !

Nhoj · **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2013, 07:14:11 PM

Quote from: Taxi Dad on August 16, 2013, 07:12:17 PM

and who better to start this thread .....our own Kirk !

Oh no don't tell me he's the captain!

kirk13 · **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2013, 07:16:24 PM

Er,no,I far more a Picard,just with more hair

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2013, 07:27:13 PM

You've got to love Star Trek, I really wish they'd make a new series soon

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Reinier · **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2013, 07:28:50 PM

What a coincidence, I was just reading this earlier today: http://thestartrekchronologyproject.blogspot.nl/

AlephZero · **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2013, 07:32:33 PM

Doesn't Kirk.. the Captain I mean, get all the women?

Seriously (semi) tho, I abso-smurfing-lutely love Star Trek, every series has been a real treat

Live long an, um prosper

kirk13 · **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2013, 07:34:24 PM

Quote from: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on August 16, 2013, 07:27:13 PM

You've got to love Star Trek, I really wish they'd make a new series soon

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Yes,but in which timeline?

In the Origional universe,after TNG,or between ENT and TOS?

Or would it be the five year mission of the new universe Enterprise,after Into Darkness?

Zed · **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2013, 07:40:16 PM

Im not a big star trek fan as those 80's movies put me off,but while out the other day i saw a u.s.s enterprise hotwheels so had to grab it

turns out after some research that its the version used in the newer movies

Nhoj · **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2013, 07:47:22 PM

I prefer the original Star Treck series. Thank you Netflix for letting me watch them any time!

derekmac · **Reply #10 on:** August 16, 2013, 07:48:54 PM

I love Star Trek!!

TNG was my favorite series (seen every episode), then Voyager, then DS9. For the movies, as long as Picard was in it, it was AWESOME!

And just because no one else has used this yet.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #11 on:** August 16, 2013, 08:09:20 PM

Quote from: kirk13 on August 16, 2013, 07:34:24 PM

Quote from: Mike, Lord of the Spammers! on August 16, 2013, 07:27:13 PM
You've got to love Star Trek, I really wish they'd make a new series soon

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Yes,but in which timeline?

In the Origional universe,after TNG,or between ENT and TOS?

Or would it be the five year mission of the new universe Enterprise,after Into Darkness?

I'd probably like something that followed on from Enterprise, and stick to the original timeline.

Having said that, it'd be up for anything as long as it was of a similar quality.

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AlephZero · **Reply #12 on:** August 16, 2013, 08:25:39 PM

My favorite, definitely TNG

Tho, if I was in charge of new series... I'd probably put it couple hundred years forward, just to see what else is out there

detron · **Reply #13 on:** August 16, 2013, 08:58:42 PM

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #14 on:** August 16, 2013, 09:33:13 PM

Honestly if I had to pick one of the series as my favorite I'd have to pick Enterprise. Let the hate mail commence, but honestly that seemed like the only crew that was really out there, exploring and fighting for survival.

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derekmac · **Reply #15 on:** August 16, 2013, 11:00:10 PM

Quote from: Grant Lamontagne on August 16, 2013, 09:33:13 PM

Honestly if I had to pick one of the series as my favorite I'd have to pick Enterprise. Let the hate mail commence, but honestly that seemed like the only crew that was really out there, exploring and fighting for survival.

Def

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Millhouse · **Reply #16 on:** August 16, 2013, 11:16:35 PM

Recently watched the re-mastered original series. Can't stand the CGI.

detron · **Reply #17 on:** August 17, 2013, 12:17:30 AM

Quote from: Millhouse on August 16, 2013, 11:16:35 PM

Recently watched the re-mastered original series. Can't stand the CGI.

I know right? I have the blurays, and I always select the original version

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Lynn LeFey · **Reply #18 on:** August 17, 2013, 12:56:24 AM

I loved TOS when I was a kid but I'm not quite old enough to have caught it during first runs.

My first first-run trek was the (admittedly pretty terrible) animated series. I'm not certain i could remember a single thing about it.

Part of the problem of TOS in retrospect is that while they had good writers, some serious sf authors, in fact, Sci-Fi as a genre has matured to a degree. There's also the fact that you were just seriously restricted with what you could get away with on TV. There are still some great stories, and it is in general great fun.

I only knew two of the actors when they announced TNG: Levar Burton (from Roots), and Patrick Stewart (from a small role in Excaliber). I was NOT impressed with TNG out of the gate, and it took me a while to warm to it. At it's best, TNG is excellent. There are a handful of episodes that I'd call fantastic, virtually all of them focusing on Picard.

I am profoundly repulsed by DS9. I hated everything about it. That's unfortunate, since I like Avery Brooks. (rant ahead) In 1986, J. Michael Straczinski walked into Paramount, and pitched 'Babylon 5' to them. They declined, since they had started production on TNG. Paramount got to see the series 'bible', the overview. There is no way in smurf that didn't 'influence' DS9, as in, stolen. Except B5 did it vastly better, on a lot lower budget. Sorry, those are the facts. PLease feel free to look up the awards each series won. B5 got a ton of acting/writing awards, and virtually everything DS9 got were technical (reflecting a higher budget). I am admittedly utterly incapable of getting over this and seeing anything positive in DS9. (end of rant) I watched the first 5 or so eps, a few during the Dominion War, and the last two. Not impressed.

I was pretty Meh about Voyager, until they introduced 7 of 9. I didn't mind Janeway, and the doctor, but I wished the rest of the crew would die a horrible death. Voyager got a LOT better in later seasons, IMO.

I am very much on the fence about Enterprise. They at least had the guts to try something sort-of-new. It just didn't work for me.

Okay. Here's the truth. Being a trek fan to one degree or another since I can remember, I LIKE the Abrams reboot stuff. Trek suffers from the same BS as anything trying to keep decades of continuity straight. It ties the hands of creative storytellers, with absurd, and often badly written minutia. Screw all that! Start fresh. Keep what works, pitch all the terrible... terrible, rest.

As a fan of sci fi, as a nerd, and as a 3d model builder, who loves starships, I hope that Star Trek lives long and prospers.

kirk13 · **Reply #19 on:** August 17, 2013, 01:18:21 AM

Now Lynn,don't hold back,your with friends here.Tell us how you REALLY feel

powernoodle · **Reply #20 on:** August 17, 2013, 01:31:50 AM

I've been re-watching the entire Voyager series on Netflix. Its probably my fave. When I finish it up, I'll probably start it over from the beginning.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #21 on:** August 17, 2013, 01:37:35 AM

I agree with Lynn, excepting that I liked Enterprise. It was grittier and really connected the society of today with what will end up being the society of TOS. Kirk's bunch (the original bunch) were a bit too advanced for us to really connect with them on a personal level- after all, they'd all but abolished money, everyone worked together for a common good, there were no morbidly obese people, no alcoholics or other drug addicts, no crime etc. It was a perfect society, something for us to aspire to, but not something for us to really connect with. The Enterprise crew made mistakes, stumbled, got dirty and didn't have an endless supply of parts and red shirts.

It's amusing looking back on the social aspects of the original Trek. While they were trying to rise above the "typical" societal problems of the time, you can see them all played out, from the racially and ethnically balanced crew (including an Asian and *gasp* a black woman!) in a time when Bruce Lee was told he had to wear his mask all the time because he looked "too Chinese." Looking at the regular cast of aliens we see an extension of this- the Klingons were Russians, the Vulcans were the Japanese ("tame" Asians) and the Romulans were the Chinese- a powderkeg that we knew nothing about, but could explode at any time. It's kind of cool, and yet amazingly cheesy all at the same time by today's standards.

Speaking of Klingons, I was never comfortable with the way they were portrayed. Here you have a society of warriors, bred for strength, raised on warfare and weeded out if they didn't make the grade, and yet in absolutely every encounter they have had with pretty well anyone, the Klingons are sent packing. In hand to hand each Starfleet Officer is capable of beating any six Klingons without breaking a sweat. Just once I'd like to see the Klingons beat someone.

Def

kirk13 · **Reply #22 on:** August 17, 2013, 01:47:09 AM

There was the glorious victorious campaign to destroy the Tribbles!

jzmtl · **Reply #23 on:** August 17, 2013, 06:17:30 AM

I liked TNG the best. Voyager is, I can't pinpoint it, but just not as good. DS9 is just a knockoff of Babylon 5, which is better wrote and more interesting anyway.

AlephZero · **Reply #24 on:** August 17, 2013, 08:12:17 AM

Lynn, I wholeheartedly agree you on Babylon 5, now THAT is a scifi series i will never EVER stop loving (i think it's time for yet another marathon

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I'm a sad geek

thebullfrog · **Reply #25 on:** August 17, 2013, 08:40:50 AM

I loved Voyager when it was first on. Couldn't stand DS9. I finally watched all the way through DS9 a few months back and loved it, but can't tolerate re-watching Voyager now. I didn't like Enterprise at the time, but I marathoned it after I finished DS9 and loved it.

That being said: Babylon 5 kills all of them. I rewatch the entire series (well the first 4 seasons) once a year.