The Star Trek thread

thebullfrog · **Reply #120 on:** September 08, 2013, 04:09:23 AM

I just can't get behind Chekov. Only member of the new cast that truly bugs me.

styx · **Reply #121 on:** September 08, 2013, 10:07:59 AM

Any news about the Star Trek: Capitan Worf?

Gareth · **Reply #122 on:** September 08, 2013, 10:44:19 AM

Quote from: Whoey on September 08, 2013, 12:59:18 AM

For the most part it's well cast

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I was truly stunned at just how good Karl Urban was as 'Bones'. I'd only ever thought of him as a middling action guy, and then there he was; a totally convincing Dr McCoy.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #123 on:** September 08, 2013, 12:48:24 PM

It was an exceptional performance alright

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Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #124 on:** September 08, 2013, 01:34:23 PM

Quote from: thebullfrog on September 08, 2013, 04:09:23 AM

I just can't get behind Chekov. Only member of the new cast that truly bugs me.

Yeah, me too, but then, at the time people thought the same as the original Chekhov so I guess it's only natural.

In the Next Generation we all hated Wesley Crusher, in DS9 it was Cisco's kid and the little Ferengi. I don't recall an annoying kid in Voyager but I never really watched it.

Either way, there's a long history of annoying kids in Star Trek.

Def

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kirk13 · **Reply #125 on:** September 08, 2013, 01:41:27 PM

There was an annoying kid in VGR to...Naomi Wildman

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #126 on:** September 08, 2013, 01:59:18 PM

Thanks. I was unaware of her existence until now. Thanks Kirk. I'm happy because my point has been proven but now annoyed by the existence of another brat.

Def

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kirk13 · **Reply #127 on:** September 08, 2013, 02:05:53 PM

See Boss,there are actually things I AM to blame for

The interaction between Naomi and Seven of Nine made the relationship between Wes and Jean-Luc look non barfworth!

thebullfrog · **Reply #128 on:** September 08, 2013, 02:07:35 PM

Karl Urban does indeed blow away the rest of the new cast. I actually think he does McCoy better than DeForest ever did.

I think my problem with "NeoKov" is the way the guy plays him. It feels like he's almost going for a Chekov parody rather than Chekov himself. I mean to some degree that's almost what they all do, but with Chekov it's like he just decided all he had to do was exaggerate the Russian accent even more and call it a day. Might be why he had next to no screen time in Into Darkness.

For whatever it's worth: I never had an issue with Wesley. Jake Sisco and Mini-Quark were annoying at first, but like the rest of the DS9 cast had some pretty good development and grew into decent characters. Well, at least the Ferengi did, Jake just managed to become slightly less whiny. Slightly. God he must have taken after his Mother, I can't believe his Dad didn't send him off with Q when he had the chance.

turnsouth · **Reply #129 on:** September 08, 2013, 02:15:31 PM

I like Quinto as Spock. I'll agree that he isn't as true as he could be to the original, but it's cool to know that at anytime the new Spock could cut open someone's skull and steal their abilities.

derekmac · **Reply #130 on:** September 08, 2013, 02:32:30 PM

Quote from: thebullfrog on September 08, 2013, 02:07:35 PM

I can't believe his Dad didn't send him off with Q when he had the chance.

+1

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Lynn LeFey · **Reply #131 on:** September 08, 2013, 02:56:59 PM

Some thoughts on the reboot Trek.

For Chekov detractors... keep in mind that the actor playing Chekov is the youngest in the cast, and I think that's fine for the character. Also, he's Russian-American, so I imagine his accent is likely a good deal more authentic. There was a character in Babylon 5 who was supposed to be from Russia, and a number of fans said how fake her accent was, but the actress was actually Russian. So...

Karl Urban is AWESOME as Bones. He and Quinto as Spock are the best, IMO. Pegg as Scotty is fine, but different, same as Saldana as Uhura and Cho as Sulu. Chris Pine doesn't seem to be trying to 'do' Shatner as Kirk, except in the first movie during the Kobayashi Maru scene.

I'm always more than a little shocked that when discussing TOS, no one EVER seems to bring up Yeoman Rand. She's a MAJOR character in the first half of the first season, and she's all but entirely forgotten by everyone but the nerd-core fans. Everyone chant with me: We Want Rand, We Want Rand!

Reminds me of a joke.
What do we want? Time travel!
When do we want it? That's irrelevant!

thebullfrog · **Reply #132 on:** September 08, 2013, 03:26:29 PM

While Pine doesn't seem to try to "do" Shatner as you say, he actually nails it in very subtle ways here and there. It's the occasional facial expression, or head nod that does it. His posture sitting in the chair. He will very rarely hit on the odd vocal cadence in a very subtle way too. His Shatner impression is less overt than what a lot of the other actors do, but I think he does a fantastic job of throwing in all the subtle body language quirks that always seem to remind me of "old" Kirk in an almost subconscious way.

Who the crap is Yeoman Rand?