I don't think I've ever had a problem with the drivers on a Spirit or a SAK inline driver? The one on the Octane is rather shabby, but has worked for me, and whilst I have always managed with LMs 2.5d bits, I'm not totally enamoured by them. The Flik was abysmal. The ones on my Balance, Fit, MP700, MP400 have been spot on, and I've had good results with the flattened one on the GrapplerMy own gripe is already very well known here, and is documented in many many threads so I'll not list it all again here. Needless to say, for those who don't know, it's the perpetually infuriating Leatherman Juice CS4
... and if it was "pocket tool peeves" and not "multitool peeves", I'd also be adding the utterly ridiculous operating system on Zebralight torches
Quote from: 50ft-trad on September 22, 2013, 10:31:59 PM... and if it was "pocket tool peeves" and not "multitool peeves", I'd also be adding the utterly ridiculous operating system on Zebralight torchesSomebody posted a very funny sequence of events when trying to operate their Zebralight. You maybe? I don't own one but I got a good laugh from that post.
If it was my first light, I'd love it If it was my only light (or most used) I'd most probably learn to love it As an occasional use light it's frustrating different UI is a bigger factor than the hue of the light Here's what ACTUALLY happens if you don't instantly connect with it ... Zebralight Learning Curve: Grab light and push button with thumb, forgetting that (unlike any other torch that ever existed)depending how quick you do that depends what light you get - full power, minimum power, or a rapid scroll through levels. Swear at it! Push button lightly (as in soft press) for next level and wait to see which level is next. It goes off (but not immediately). Swear at it!Push button to turn it back on at a different speed, and light comes on at a different light level to before. Swear at it.Try double clicking it. The light changes two settings, but flickers the intermediate setting on it's way there. Feel the start of a headache coming on, and swear at it!Remember the "press and hold to change mode" thingy. Press and hold button. It goes too far before you let go and you get the light level after the one you wanted. Swear at it!Press button quicker to advance light mode slower, and it goes off. Swear at it loudly!Press button to turn back on, this time with eyes shut as you're getting frightened of giving yourself a seizure. Swear at it regardless of light level. Open eyes and assess which level the imp has chosen. Swear again regardless of result!Press and hold and whimper as the light cycles through the various levels as you try to time it to stop on the right one. With gritted teeth and misting eyes, finally achieve the required light level for the job at hand (praying it doesn't need more than one light level) Press the button to turn it off and it waits a fraction of a second just in case it's a double click. That's enough time for your brain to think you didn't press it right and tell your thumb to try again. By the time your thumb starts moving again the light has gone off so you end up turning it on again! SCREAM AT IT !!! Whilst still screaming, press the button more slowly and deliberately to make bloody sure the button works this time. Light level changes and stays on. Look at the window to decide if it's high enough to jump out of. Start to cryStop ... take a breath ... think clearly and press the button once and wait. Light goes off! Return light to drawer and pick up something else which hasn't been possessed by an evil spirit. Attempt to calm down and mend your wounded soul.Leave the light there until you've read enough posts at good people at MT.O who have tamed the beast with bright smiling faces and give it constant praise. Feel convinced it's worth trying it out again.Return to step 1 ......
Ok, now I'm going to have to do a search to find out your problem with the CS4, I think mine now resides in the GF's purse.
One of the best phillips screwdrivers for light and medium work is the 3D one on the small Victorinox Rambler. I've taken several computers and laptops apart with it and it's good on larger jobs too. And it's size makes it perfect for always having it with you.
Quote from: enki_ck on September 22, 2013, 10:47:25 PMOne of the best phillips screwdrivers for light and medium work is the 3D one on the small Victorinox Rambler. I've taken several computers and laptops apart with it and it's good on larger jobs too. And it's size makes it perfect for always having it with you. Incredible little tool! I've tightened up locks and hinges on doors with that little beauty
I can't believe I'm actually saying this, but why can't we be more like the Canadians and use Robertson screws? They are so, so much better than Phillips and even Gerber can't screw up a Robertson driver.
Quote from: 3rdpig on September 22, 2013, 10:35:22 PMQuote from: 50ft-trad on September 22, 2013, 10:31:59 PM... and if it was "pocket tool peeves" and not "multitool peeves", I'd also be adding the utterly ridiculous operating system on Zebralight torchesSomebody posted a very funny sequence of events when trying to operate their Zebralight. You maybe? I don't own one but I got a good laugh from that post.This one ... ? Quote from: 50ft-trad on April 03, 2013, 05:09:16 PMIf it was my first light, I'd love it If it was my only light (or most used) I'd most probably learn to love it As an occasional use light it's frustrating different UI is a bigger factor than the hue of the light Here's what ACTUALLY happens if you don't instantly connect with it ... Zebralight Learning Curve: Grab light and push button with thumb, forgetting that (unlike any other torch that ever existed)depending how quick you do that depends what light you get - full power, minimum power, or a rapid scroll through levels. Swear at it! Push button lightly (as in soft press) for next level and wait to see which level is next. It goes off (but not immediately). Swear at it!Push button to turn it back on at a different speed, and light comes on at a different light level to before. Swear at it.Try double clicking it. The light changes two settings, but flickers the intermediate setting on it's way there. Feel the start of a headache coming on, and swear at it!Remember the "press and hold to change mode" thingy. Press and hold button. It goes too far before you let go and you get the light level after the one you wanted. Swear at it!Press button quicker to advance light mode slower, and it goes off. Swear at it loudly!Press button to turn back on, this time with eyes shut as you're getting frightened of giving yourself a seizure. Swear at it regardless of light level. Open eyes and assess which level the imp has chosen. Swear again regardless of result!Press and hold and whimper as the light cycles through the various levels as you try to time it to stop on the right one. With gritted teeth and misting eyes, finally achieve the required light level for the job at hand (praying it doesn't need more than one light level) Press the button to turn it off and it waits a fraction of a second just in case it's a double click. That's enough time for your brain to think you didn't press it right and tell your thumb to try again. By the time your thumb starts moving again the light has gone off so you end up turning it on again! SCREAM AT IT !!! Whilst still screaming, press the button more slowly and deliberately to make bloody sure the button works this time. Light level changes and stays on. Look at the window to decide if it's high enough to jump out of. Start to cryStop ... take a breath ... think clearly and press the button once and wait. Light goes off! Return light to drawer and pick up something else which hasn't been possessed by an evil spirit. Attempt to calm down and mend your wounded soul.Leave the light there until you've read enough posts at good people at MT.O who have tamed the beast with bright smiling faces and give it constant praise. Feel convinced it's worth trying it out again.Return to step 1 ......Yeah, I might have had something to do with that ... Quote from: 3rdpig on September 22, 2013, 10:34:11 PMOk, now I'm going to have to do a search to find out your problem with the CS4, I think mine now resides in the GF's purse.Here's a couple of starters ...http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,25232.0.htmlhttp://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,39553.0.html
Quote from: 3rdpig on September 22, 2013, 10:35:22 PMQuote from: 50ft-trad on September 22, 2013, 10:31:59 PM... and if it was "pocket tool peeves" and not "multitool peeves", I'd also be adding the utterly ridiculous operating system on Zebralight torchesSomebody posted a very funny sequence of events when trying to operate their Zebralight. You maybe? I don't own one but I got a good laugh from that post.Yes, that would be Al. One of the best phillips screwdrivers for light and medium work is the 3D one on the small Victorinox Rambler. I've taken several computers and laptops apart with it and it's good on larger jobs too. And it's size makes it perfect for always having it with you.
...Rather than Robertsons, why not Torx? It's like Robertson only better....
Those of you that have an Octane, fold out the phillips and take a look at it. With the tool on it's side it's quite pointed and looks like it would fit small to medium phillips screws pretty well. Now look at it with the tool turned on it's edge, now it looks like it was designed to fit large phillips. The result is it fits nothing. I've never, ever seen another phillips shaped this way and both my Octanes are like this, but my 400, 600 and 800 are not and fit most phillips pretty well.It looks as if it was designed to be a 2D bit and then widened to 3D at the last minute without any thought to the fact that it won't fit anything.(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)
I never like when it takes more than one step to access a tool. Examples would be to open the scissors on a Juice S2 one has to open the bottle/can opener first, or pretty much any pliers-based MT that has inside-opening tools.
Another pet peeve of mine is poor quality. It is my fingers (and possibly more) on the line, so I'm willing to pay more to get the best. If something is worth doing, it is worth doing well.
Finally, while it is a given that some tools/functions will be better than others, I really dislike finding problems that should have been obvious immediately with the first prototype, e.g. if anyone had actually tried to use this screwdriver (or saw, or whatever) before they mass-produced it and rushed it to market, they would have caught the problem. Looks like the Octane phillips driver may be an example of this.
Think this has already been said,but if everyone would use standard quarter inch bits instead of coming up with funky off sizes. Buggered up the Balance comprehensively!