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Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?

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If Vic offered a micro phillips like the micro flat head, would you be interested?

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Offline slackard

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Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
on: September 23, 2013, 05:18:43 AM
So, many have found uses for the micro screw driver that is retained by the cork screw.. even makes a neat upgrade for my old pocket worn climber 2..  to be honest tho, im not an eye glass wearer and a standard head is more or less uselss to me.   

I do however dinker quite a bit with small electronics etc, and think that a matching micro-corkscrew-phillips would be awesome.

Sure i could get a cyber tool, but thats friggin huge compared to my climber... from a technical standpoint i think this is something Vic could offer pretty easily..

What do you think?


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #1 on: September 23, 2013, 05:43:20 AM
In my experience, the existing flat head micro screwdriver works just fine on small phillips screws of the appropriate size.  Has this not been your experience, or is the size not correct for your application?


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #2 on: September 23, 2013, 06:03:57 AM
Hey Everyone
Stop pinching my topics  >:(
This is so weird.....
Having just posted some stuff on the corkscrew earlier today - I was thinking of posting this topic too.
You beat me to it Slackard - I guess its a case of "Great minds think alike".
Or maybe .... "Multitool obsessed geeks seldom differ".

Absolutely they should do this....
Perfect for me would be an interchageable one like on the Leatherman.
An oval shaped shank that had a Phillips at one end and a flat head at the other.
I guess the eingineering of this would be tricky in such a small handle
Buy Hey - Victorinox can do anything - eh?
« Last Edit: September 23, 2013, 06:09:13 AM by Huntsman »


ca Offline jzmtl

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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 06:35:43 AM
The intend of the screwdriver is for eyeglasses, a flat head will work in phillips whereas a phillips will not work on flat head. That's my explanation anyway.

I'd imagine making a two headed one is pretty easy though, albeit with reduced shank length. Cut the front of a phillips driver from a micro driver kit, grind the other end to a flathead, then use steel epoxy to form the handle with channels that fits the corkscrew.

FYI the flathead has a great use, open cable ties without cutting it, I do it in stores when I want to examine something that's sealed with cable tie.


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #4 on: September 23, 2013, 07:40:40 AM
in particular some of the screws holding my laptop together are quite small and the flat head doesnt seat well.. workable but not ideal.  i suppose we could just grind the corners a bit so its more like the spade phillips like on the leatherman micra


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 09:06:35 AM
Get a Rambler/Manager for your keys - job done!  :D


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #6 on: September 23, 2013, 01:02:20 PM
...

I'd imagine making a two headed one is pretty easy though, albeit with reduced shank length. Cut the front of a phillips driver from a micro driver kit, grind the other end to a flathead, then use steel epoxy to form the handle with channels that fits the corkscrew.

....

Like this one?



I think he had a "How to ..." on building one but I just can't find it. :-\


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #7 on: September 23, 2013, 02:21:49 PM
ah, yep,  I will have to make some of those!

I guess I could just order some of the leatherman replacement bits for the eyeglass driver, and epoxy away
If I can help, let me know 


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #8 on: September 23, 2013, 02:42:27 PM
ah, yep,  I will have to make some of those!

I guess I could just order some of the leatherman replacement bits for the eyeglass driver, and epoxy away

 :tu: I have a vague recollection of someone doing something like that with Fugru or whatever it's called  :think: .... I could be mistaken though  :-\


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #9 on: September 23, 2013, 04:21:19 PM
...

I'd imagine making a two headed one is pretty easy though, albeit with reduced shank length. Cut the front of a phillips driver from a micro driver kit, grind the other end to a flathead, then use steel epoxy to form the handle with channels that fits the corkscrew.

....

Like this one?

(Image removed from quote.)

I think he had a "How to ..." on building one but I just can't find it. :-\

Yep, exactly what I was thinking. I wanted tp say use the leatherman bit but don't remember if ot was too long.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2013, 04:23:01 PM by jzmtl »


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #10 on: September 23, 2013, 08:36:34 PM
It's Sugru, Al: http://sugru.com/

I think I'd prefer tinned metal though.


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #11 on: September 23, 2013, 08:59:13 PM
My current glasses have Philips screws, and the flathead is simply too big for them, so, yeah, I'd be interested.


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #12 on: September 23, 2013, 11:38:11 PM
Wenger/Victorinox has already produced both tiny Phillips (1.8mm) & flat head (0.8 &1.2mm) driver bits with bit holders---in the Minathor & Giant models, both rather expensive. Whether Victorinox will pick up these models after December is anyone's guess.


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #13 on: September 24, 2013, 12:34:30 AM
It's Sugru, Al: http://sugru.com/

I think I'd prefer tinned metal though.

Cheers Tom. You can tell how much attention I've paid to the stuff  :P


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #14 on: September 24, 2013, 12:52:57 AM
Using two Leatherman pliers, I twisted and pulled the shaft out of a Victorinox glasses screwdriver. Then I reamed the hole out a little, cut a little off of the other end, then carfully widened the hole all the way through until it was big enough for a Leatherman dual-ended glasses bit. A little superglue, slide the bit through until centred, and presto!

It worked well for years, and I'm sure it's still a great tool under the enormous juniper patch it's lost in.


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #15 on: September 24, 2013, 04:12:47 AM
Im gonna have to try that now

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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #16 on: September 24, 2013, 07:22:29 AM
The current screwdriver is easily removed, I can't see the harm in having another version with a micro Phillips available so someone can swap to it if they prefer.  Let the user decide which screwdriver is most useful for their needs!
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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #17 on: September 29, 2013, 11:12:49 AM
Using two Leatherman pliers, I twisted and pulled the shaft out of a Victorinox glasses screwdriver. Then I reamed the hole out a little, cut a little off of the other end, then carfully widened the hole all the way through until it was big enough for a Leatherman dual-ended glasses bit. A little superglue, slide the bit through until centred, and presto!

It worked well for years, and I'm sure it's still a great tool under the enormous juniper patch it's lost in.

good idea bro, i will try it.i had bought lm bit-set for skeletool and dual ended small bit was useless for me till i read your message.


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #18 on: October 03, 2013, 02:39:08 PM

FYI the flathead has a great use, open cable ties without cutting it, I do it in stores when I want to examine something that's sealed with cable tie.


I just tried that this morning, and it's genius. Thank you for the tip sir. :D
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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #19 on: October 04, 2013, 05:05:10 AM
I recently received two of these eye glass screwdrivers with a couple of pairs of glasses.  They are philips one end and slot on the other.  The screwdriver shaft near each end is approx. 0.064 in. in diameter.  I haven't tried to take them apart yet but it seems that they could be used for an inexpensive source of parts.



Search "3in1 Eyeglass Screwdriver Sunglass Watch Repair Kit with Keychain" on ebay and they will come up. 

I can try to dissemble one of them if anyone is interested.

John.


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #20 on: October 04, 2013, 05:12:37 AM
I recently received two of these eye glass screwdrivers with a couple of pairs of glasses.  They are philips one end and slot on the other.  The screwdriver shaft near each end is approx. 0.064 in. in diameter.  I haven't tried to take them apart yet but it seems that they could be used for an inexpensive source of parts.



Search "3in1 Eyeglass Screwdriver Sunglass Watch Repair Kit with Keychain" on ebay and they will come up. 

I can try to dissemble one of them if anyone is interested.

John.

I have been looking for something like this,  thanks!  ebay 1.68 for 5 of these
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130960089862?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

I ordered 4 sets of 5, for a total of $6.72
If I can help, let me know 


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #21 on: October 04, 2013, 05:48:23 AM
Happy to be of help.  If you come up with a neat way to use them in a multitool/sak please let us know.

John.


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Re: Why no micro (corkscrew) Phillips?
Reply #22 on: October 04, 2013, 02:49:52 PM
Yes you can remove the screwdriver from those but they are quite a bit thicker and longer than both the Vic and LM mini bits.

Looking forward to seeing what you make with them. :salute:

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