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Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures

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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #30 on: December 02, 2013, 02:56:30 PM
OK, I'll attach my bad attempts at photography for a few of the missing ones. I only have a point and shoot camera and bad lighting conditions for photography so if anyone can provide better ones, please do and I'll include them in the pages.


@Gareth: Sorry for not including your Commander, but I thought it would be better if we had one that still had the Wenger Shield on its scale. :D Hope you don't mind. :cheers:

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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #31 on: December 02, 2013, 03:00:13 PM
I'd still love to see a group shot of the Traveler variations with different scales for the Traveler page. ;)


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #32 on: December 02, 2013, 03:31:00 PM

Commander:
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Enki,
your picture got me thinking......
Question: a Commander without toothpick and tweezers would have catalog number 1.10.01

How could you tell it is really a Commander and not the Basic 07?

The answer is probably because of the emblem, usually just printed on the Basic line.
However, I'm not 100% sure because I saw this kind of emblem for models which were not part of the Basic line.
 :think:


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #33 on: December 02, 2013, 04:07:44 PM

Commander:
http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/missing-wenger-85mm-sak-wiki-pictures/?action=dlattach;attach=88925;image


Enki,
your picture got me thinking......
Question: a Commander without toothpick and tweezers would have catalog number 1.10.01
http://i.imgur.com/1RBLVeO.jpg
How could you tell it is really a Commander and not the Basic 07?
http://i.imgur.com/RpqCl7i.jpg
The answer is probably because of the emblem, usually just printed on the Basic line.
However, I'm not 100% sure because I saw this kind of emblem for models which were not part of the Basic line.
 :think:

Yes, I was going by the emblem but you got me thinking now. And I just realised that the Commander currently doesn't even have the scale tools category. :shrug:

Maybe you could add a Basic/Classic/Commander disambiguation to that page as you've been researching the lines and have the info.

The Snife Commander series had both toothpick and tweezers but the scales and emblem were painted.


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #34 on: December 02, 2013, 04:31:46 PM

Commander:
http://forum.multitool.org/swiss-forum/missing-wenger-85mm-sak-wiki-pictures/?action=dlattach;attach=88925;image


Enki,
your picture got me thinking......
Question: a Commander without toothpick and tweezers would have catalog number 1.10.01
http://i.imgur.com/1RBLVeO.jpg
How could you tell it is really a Commander and not the Basic 07?
http://i.imgur.com/RpqCl7i.jpg
The answer is probably because of the emblem, usually just printed on the Basic line.
However, I'm not 100% sure because I saw this kind of emblem for models which were not part of the Basic line.
 :think:

Yes, I was going by the emblem but you got me thinking now. And I just realised that the Commander currently doesn't even have the scale tools category. :shrug:

Maybe you could add a Basic/Classic/Commander disambiguation to that page as you've been researching the lines and have the info.

The Snife Commander series had both toothpick and tweezers but the scales and emblem were painted.

Nevermind!
The "Commander" is a name used in the North America for a model without toothpick and tweezers.
Perhaps we could add them to the scale tools in the wiki page, as there are many models listed there which have T&T.
Sorry for the confusion, but many times I forget that the North America is a completely different market.


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #35 on: December 03, 2013, 08:17:01 AM
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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #36 on: December 03, 2013, 08:19:47 AM
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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #37 on: December 03, 2013, 08:22:27 AM
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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #38 on: December 03, 2013, 08:24:32 AM
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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #39 on: December 03, 2013, 08:26:55 AM
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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #40 on: December 04, 2013, 12:42:02 AM
Thank you, I needed a couple of those to compete the pages. :salute: I'll do the edits on friday or saturday. You've been very helpful. :cheers:


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #41 on: December 05, 2013, 09:38:26 AM
Apprentice.  I knew I had one somewhere, it was hiding in amongst about 20 recruits.

This one has the "reversed" nail-file.





I hope this helps. feel free to download full res from photobucket and mess with them. Non flash one looks a little better, but colour balance is a bit warm.



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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #42 on: December 05, 2013, 12:09:31 PM
Thanks, I'll try a bit of photoshop tinkering to get the colors right.

The "reversed" nail-file just means it's a newer model. Not sure when they switched the file direction though. North Man might have more info on this.


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #43 on: December 14, 2013, 11:08:38 PM
Ranger Scout Evo S11 - 2007 Scout Knife
Art Nr.: 1 11 91 300

Not sure if you are interested in pictures too.

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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #44 on: December 15, 2013, 02:33:01 PM
Ranger Scout Evo S11 - 2007 Scout Knife
Art Nr.: 1 11 91 300

Not sure if you are interested in pictures too.

P.S.: The 120mm Ranger Scout 06 has the Art Nr.: 1 77 91 00

Thanks, we only had a stock picture of the front of the knife so far so it will be a good addition. :salute:


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #45 on: December 28, 2013, 04:03:58 PM
I know I'm late :oops: but I finally created all the tool pages, updated the SAK pages with posts and added the missing identifiers. :salute:

I'm still playing with that Apprentice a bit.

Thanks for all the help so far. :cheers:


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #46 on: December 28, 2013, 11:41:13 PM

I'm still playing with that Apprentice a bit.

Thanks for all the help so far. :cheers:

Try this pic... it looks a bit better without needing tuning

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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #47 on: December 28, 2013, 11:46:12 PM

I'm still playing with that Apprentice a bit.

Thanks for all the help so far. :cheers:

Try this pic... it looks a bit better without needing tuning



That will be it. :D I'll reduce the size of it a bit for the wiki though. ;)

Things are looking great. :cheers:


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #48 on: December 28, 2013, 11:59:46 PM

I'm still playing with that Apprentice a bit.

Thanks for all the help so far. :cheers:

Try this pic... it looks a bit better without needing tuning



That will be it. :D I'll reduce the size of it a bit for the wiki though. ;)

Things are looking great. :cheers:

yeah, I left it BIG so you could resize it as needed rather than me taking a guess.
 :cheers:


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #49 on: December 29, 2013, 12:01:00 AM

I'm still playing with that Apprentice a bit.

Thanks for all the help so far. :cheers:

Try this pic... it looks a bit better without needing tuning



That will be it. :D I'll reduce the size of it a bit for the wiki though. ;)

Things are looking great. :cheers:

yeah, I left it BIG so you could resize it as needed rather than me taking a guess.
 :cheers:

It's been updated.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Apprentice

:hatsoff:


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #50 on: December 29, 2013, 10:32:06 AM

I'm still playing with that Apprentice a bit.

Thanks for all the help so far. :cheers:

Try this pic... it looks a bit better without needing tuning



That will be it. :D I'll reduce the size of it a bit for the wiki though. ;)

Things are looking great. :cheers:

yeah, I left it BIG so you could resize it as needed rather than me taking a guess.
 :cheers:

It's been updated.

http://www.sakwiki.com/ti...index.php?page=Apprentice

 :hatsoff:


Might want to add an "s" to the word "layer" though ;)


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The [/size]Apprentice[/size] is a 85mm Wenger Swiss Army knife with just two layerS, and no tools on the back. Some people find the absence of backside tools make the knife more comfortable to use.[/size]
A knife-carrying guide for the international traveller. : http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,47532.0.html


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #51 on: December 30, 2013, 03:28:39 PM

I'm still playing with that Apprentice a bit.

Thanks for all the help so far. :cheers:

Try this pic... it looks a bit better without needing tuning

Is the Wenger shield just printed on the front scale, or made by inlaid metal?
Looking at the picture the emblem seems printed and I suspect your knife is probably a Basic 65.
Not a big difference, though.


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #52 on: December 30, 2013, 03:38:03 PM

I'm still playing with that Apprentice a bit.

Thanks for all the help so far. :cheers:

Try this pic... it looks a bit better without needing tuning

Is the Wenger shield just printed on the front scale, or made by inlaid metal?
Looking at the picture the emblem seems printed and I suspect your knife is probably a Basic 65.
Not a big difference, though.

Correct, but the Basic 65 is also listed on that page and the difference is described in the main box. I added Basic 65 under the picture though just in case. :salute: Thanks for pointing that out. :D





I still have a few pictures to upload that I got from Vladimir on the Exclusivities.


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #53 on: December 30, 2013, 03:57:16 PM

I'm still playing with that Apprentice a bit.

Thanks for all the help so far. :cheers:

Try this pic... it looks a bit better without needing tuning

Is the Wenger shield just printed on the front scale, or made by inlaid metal?
Looking at the picture the emblem seems printed and I suspect your knife is probably a Basic 65.
Not a big difference, though.

Correct, but the Basic 65 is also listed on that page and the difference is described in the main box. I added Basic 65 under the picture though just in case. :salute: Thanks for pointing that out. :D





I still have a few pictures to upload that I got from Vladimir on the Exclusivities.

Nikola,
I was thinking about it and I don't have a clear answer.
See these listings:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-16949-Apprentice-Swiss-Army-Knife-3-25-Inch-/330965053929?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item4d0f0df1e9
and this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Swiss-Army-Knife-Apprentice-model-16949-/321286148499?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4ace259193
Both knives shows the emblem just printed on the scale, one has the nail file facing the front, the other facing the back.
The only conclusion is the following: if the emblem is printed, there is no real way to tell the difference between an Apprentice and a Basic 65.
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I already uploaded on the wiki the pictures of the S557 Exclusivities a while back.
I linked them on the 557 page.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=EVO+S557
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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #54 on: December 30, 2013, 04:07:52 PM

I'm still playing with that Apprentice a bit.

Thanks for all the help so far. :cheers:

Try this pic... it looks a bit better without needing tuning

Is the Wenger shield just printed on the front scale, or made by inlaid metal?
Looking at the picture the emblem seems printed and I suspect your knife is probably a Basic 65.
Not a big difference, though.

Correct, but the Basic 65 is also listed on that page and the difference is described in the main box. I added Basic 65 under the picture though just in case. :salute: Thanks for pointing that out. :D





I still have a few pictures to upload that I got from Vladimir on the Exclusivities.

Nikola,
I was thinking about it and I don't have a clear answer.
See these listings:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wenger-16949-Apprentice-Swiss-Army-Knife-3-25-Inch-/330965053929?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item4d0f0df1e9
and this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Swiss-Army-Knife-Apprentice-model-16949-/321286148499?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4ace259193
Both knives shows the emblem just printed on the scale, one has the nail file facing the front, the other facing the back.
The only conclusion is the following: if the emblem is printed, there is no real way to tell the difference between an Apprentice and a Basic 65.
-----
I already uploaded on the wiki the pictures of the S557 Exclusivities a while back.
I linked them on the 557 page.
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=EVO+S557


And the second one even has the 16949 model number. :think:

Wenger certainly didn't want to make this easy on us.

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I didn't notice the link to the picture. It's a good one. :cheers: Maybe adding it right of the Variations tab with the floating DIV would be better. :shrug: I'll upload the pictures I got from Vladimir to a new gallery and link it in the description. Any thoughts?


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #55 on: December 30, 2013, 04:25:27 PM

And the second one even has the 16949 model number. :think:

Wenger certainly didn't want to make this easy on us.

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I didn't notice the link to the picture. It's a good one. :cheers: Maybe adding it right of the Variations tab with the floating DIV would be better. :shrug: I'll upload the pictures I got from Vladimir to a new gallery and link it in the description. Any thoughts?

My first thought was that the Apprentice is just the name used in North America for the Basic 65.
However, I'm pretty sure I saw pictures of "Apprentice's" with the metal shield.
 :think:
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The funny thing about the Exclusivities is that Wenger used the english name "Exclusivities" on the front scale, but the name on the box label is the french "Exclusivités"
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=12&sort_mode=imageId_desc&imageId=2843&scalesize=o


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #56 on: December 30, 2013, 04:44:53 PM
...
The funny thing about the Exclusivities is that Wenger used the english name "Exclusivities" on the front scale, but the name on the box label is the french "Exclusivités"
http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=12&sort_mode=imageId_desc&imageId=2843&scalesize=o

The one I got from Vladimir came in a black box but with the same model number.



Here's the gallery: http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=111


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #57 on: April 15, 2014, 11:23:33 PM
Here's something that the wiki lists as a variation of the Wenger Shredder. Should have its own separate listing.

The Snowboarder is one of the SwissRider series and is intermediate in size between the larger Shredder and smaller Snowboard.

Layer Tools

2.5" Knife Blade
Flat Screwdriver/Cap Lifter/Wire stripper
Can Opener
Nail File/Nail Cleaner
Hex-Key L-Wrench 4mm? - Removable, with Phillips Screwdriver
Hexagonal Wrench 10mm? - Removable
Tool Holder for Allen wrench /Phillips screwdriver

Back Layer Tools

Awl/Reamer
Corkscrew
Short Chain with Keyring

Scale Tools

Toothpick
Tweezers

Scales

Standard Black Synthetic Scales with a screen printed image of a Snowboarder.

Physical Specifications

Length: 85mm (nominal frame size)

Identifiers:  1.40.03.02
                 16954

A write-up in a catalog says it comes with a CD of snowboarding music. Don't know if mine did or not.

The second photo is of the yellow handled version of the larger Shredder.

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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #58 on: April 16, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
Thanks, Karl. Added. Let me know if you see any errors.

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Snowboarder


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Re: Missing Wenger 85mm SAK wiki pictures
Reply #59 on: April 16, 2014, 08:01:52 PM
Overall looks good. Couple of minor typos:

Question mark after 'Short Chain with Keyring'.

Link to Shredder has Phillips OR Carabineer; should be AND.

Maybe need to edit the Shredder listing, so that Snowboarder is not a variation but separate model.


 

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