Quote from: condcup on February 03, 2014, 10:48:41 PMAnyones know about the eBay global shipping program? No additional import charges at delivery, and includes international tracking. Competitive international shipping rates and allow items to ship more quicky. http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/shipping-globally.htmlThats a benefit to the seller, but sucks for the buyer. Costs more than it should as you are basically paying double shipping to protect the seller.
Anyones know about the eBay global shipping program? No additional import charges at delivery, and includes international tracking. Competitive international shipping rates and allow items to ship more quicky. http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/shipping-globally.html
$40 was the cheapest legal paypal option.
Random example. CVW listing http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-84mm-Knife-21-51-/130997515978?_trksid=p2047675.l4066Shipping for Canada includes two options: A) US $7.95 via USPS First Class Mail Intl / First Class Package Intl Serviceor:B) US $25.00 via USPS Priority Mail InternationalI always got with option A when buying SAKs from CVW's eBay store since they added this option and never had a problem, tracking numbers working too. Just an example because there are other US sellers offering similar options.
Quote from: GigaHz on February 03, 2014, 11:05:05 PM$40 was the cheapest legal paypal option.Wait a second.... So by PP anything below that $40 option was.... illegal? (sorry, couldn't resist )
Syph got some stuff from me out side of ebay. I tried to ship it through paypal. It was $40 to ship it through paypal. $40 was the cheapest legal paypal option. I shipped it regular mail for $12. If paypal does not except it, the seller is not covered. Why should the seller take this chance?
Quote from: Marius on February 03, 2014, 11:11:34 PMQuote from: GigaHz on February 03, 2014, 11:05:05 PM$40 was the cheapest legal paypal option.Wait a second.... So by PP anything below that $40 option was.... illegal? (sorry, couldn't resist )$40 was the cheapest choice. There was no option less than $40. To me that is paypal legal.
Beginning July 28, the USPS is adding free Electronic Delivery Confirmation to 15 additional countries for First Class Package International Service. Those countries are the following:Australia BelgiumBrazilCroatiaDenmarkFranceGermanyGreat BritainIrelandIsraelNetherlandsNew ZealandSpainSwedenSwitzerlandEric Nash, Director of Online Marketing for Stamps.com, said that since the UK and Australia will get free Delivery Confirmation (DC) as of July 28, ecommerce sellers should be very excited. And, he said, eBay sellers will now get free tracking posted back into eBay for free when using First Class Package International Service. "Based on what eBay did in January for the addition of Electronic Delivery Confirmation for First Class Package Intl. Service packages going to Canada, I think this tracking will qualify for eBay Seller Protection."
It is a hassle for sure I can see both sides of the coin. For me to ship tracked to europe is probably $45, but non tracked air mail is $10. Of all the stuff Ive shipped I just sent it the cheap way and while that doesn't protect me by paypal standards, Im not charging people 45 to ship. Now Ive sent about 125 SAKs to europe and other non US countries and so far nothing has gone missing at all, so I havent gotten screwed over or anything.Ive sold a couple hundred msc items on ebay over the last decade and never shipped a tracked method either, and never been screwed, so Im either just lucky, or the mail system is generally ok.. dunno.
...Ive sold a couple hundred msc items on ebay over the last decade and never shipped a tracked method either, and never been screwed, so Im either just lucky, or the mail system is generally ok.. dunno.
Actually I hear lots more stories on the forum from US members having their packages lost within the US.
Quote from: enki_ck on February 04, 2014, 12:19:56 AMActually I hear lots more stories on the forum from US members having their packages lost within the US. The last 3 packages of mine that didn't arrive all got lost somewhere inside the US, and USPS were extremely uninterested in their whereabouts.
I know it is not entirely legal, but I always label any items I ship as "camping tool", mark them as gift and put the value at 10$ or so, even if it's a 100$ item. If I already have the option to prevent the recipient from paying tax/customs, why not do so?
Quote from: MWDP on February 04, 2014, 01:10:00 AMI know it is not entirely legal, but I always label any items I ship as "camping tool", mark them as gift and put the value at 10$ or so, even if it's a 100$ item. If I already have the option to prevent the recipient from paying tax/customs, why not do so?If an item you ship goes missing that has an actual value of $100, but instead you put down the value at $10, you will only be able to claim $10. To ship outside the US with a tracking number, it has always cost me an extra $35-$45 for priority/international express mail. It's about $12 for first class international, and the people at the post office always tell me that tracking and insurance is not an option with first class. That being said, I will still ship outside the U.S. under certain conditions. I've never had a problem before, but I know people who have. I like to play it safe.
http://www.ecommercebytes...m/cab/abn/y13/m07/i11/s01No Canada on that list but it says additional, and I don't know what countries were on the list previously. And he says he thinks it should qualify for Canada. Was the package to Canada tracked?
One of the biggest challenges in shipping internationally is the inability of merchants to confirm when a package has been delivered unless they use very expensive services. Online merchants who ship internationally using USPS are finally getting some good news. As promised, the USPS is expanding its Delivery Confirmation International Service to additional countries. Previously the service was only available to packages going to Canada, but effective July 28, 2013, it will be available to packages going to an additional 15 countries.
I too do see both side of the coin, and I guess I am lucky that where I live is a tax free destination, but still I too often suffer from heavy cost on shipping for no particular reason.I really do thank those good sellers who are willing to sell outside of US or Europe with a cheaper mean, and there is no way in hell I would ever betray that trust. But for the protection of both sides, it is probably best to at least insure the item(at least to a certain amount, which is comfortable to buyer since he/she bears the import tax)
Quote from: comis on February 04, 2014, 07:55:26 AMI too do see both side of the coin, and I guess I am lucky that where I live is a tax free destination, but still I too often suffer from heavy cost on shipping for no particular reason.I really do thank those good sellers who are willing to sell outside of US or Europe with a cheaper mean, and there is no way in hell I would ever betray that trust. But for the protection of both sides, it is probably best to at least insure the item(at least to a certain amount, which is comfortable to buyer since he/she bears the import tax)This has nothing to do with shipping. Has to do with the fact that Canada nailed the buyer for $53 duty based on the type of item (a Swiss Army Knife) and the cost of it ($260). As a seller, that is not my problem. Buyers need to be aware of their country's custom fees, etc. It might also mean to purchase things within your own country instead of international. Buyer beware!! Also, in this case as well, make SURE you contact the seller upfront reference this and any other issues. He didn't. He just paid the cost plus shipping and nothing else. The buyer from Australia was kind enough to help me with shipping, to include costs, in order to get it to him with a reasonable shipping cost.
Quote from: burnside on February 04, 2014, 01:31:04 AMQuote from: MWDP on February 04, 2014, 01:10:00 AMI know it is not entirely legal, but I always label any items I ship as "camping tool", mark them as gift and put the value at 10$ or so, even if it's a 100$ item. If I already have the option to prevent the recipient from paying tax/customs, why not do so?If an item you ship goes missing that has an actual value of $100, but instead you put down the value at $10, you will only be able to claim $10. To ship outside the US with a tracking number, it has always cost me an extra $35-$45 for priority/international express mail. It's about $12 for first class international, and the people at the post office always tell me that tracking and insurance is not an option with first class. That being said, I will still ship outside the U.S. under certain conditions. I've never had a problem before, but I know people who have. I like to play it safe.That's perfectly fine, shipping out of Serbia you won't be able to claim anything no matter what the sum on the customs declaration Strangely enough I've never had a package misplaced or stolen shipping from Serbia to USA, but USA to Serbia... 3 so far. One of them had 200$ worth of knives in it. USPS is about as competent as a group of blindfolded monkeys with lobotomy
Quote from: bren10man on February 04, 2014, 10:04:59 AMQuote from: comis on February 04, 2014, 07:55:26 AMI too do see both side of the coin, and I guess I am lucky that where I live is a tax free destination, but still I too often suffer from heavy cost on shipping for no particular reason.I really do thank those good sellers who are willing to sell outside of US or Europe with a cheaper mean, and there is no way in hell I would ever betray that trust. But for the protection of both sides, it is probably best to at least insure the item(at least to a certain amount, which is comfortable to buyer since he/she bears the import tax)This has nothing to do with shipping. Has to do with the fact that Canada nailed the buyer for $53 duty based on the type of item (a Swiss Army Knife) and the cost of it ($260). As a seller, that is not my problem. Buyers need to be aware of their country's custom fees, etc. It might also mean to purchase things within your own country instead of international. Buyer beware!! Also, in this case as well, make SURE you contact the seller upfront reference this and any other issues. He didn't. He just paid the cost plus shipping and nothing else. The buyer from Australia was kind enough to help me with shipping, to include costs, in order to get it to him with a reasonable shipping cost. Yes, I do agree with what you said. And truely it is buyer's responsibility to take care of local tax.What I meant is even I live in a tax free area(no VAT, sales, or import tax whatsoever), I might still got penalized with super high shipping cost, which the seller might be profiting with the excuse of covering the taxes.
It would cost me only about $12 dollars if I ship international first class with no extra insurance and no tracking. The postal workers at the usps have told me numerous times that uninsured first class international mail does not provide tracking. For tracking international packages, one must use priority international/express mail international, and even then, the tracking stops at customs.
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