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How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?

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How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
on: May 30, 2008, 06:08:24 AM
I was looking at my soon to be departed Swisstool X's locking mechanism & was surprised how small the spring was for the locking plate , the system looks very similar too the Spirits .The springs function is non load bearing one I think & clearly it works the only problem I could find on this forum was a post on the Spirithttp://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,4711.msg77431.html#msg77431 What does everyone think is the spring a weak point?  Here is a pic of the X's locking spring       The LM Surge's lock & spring are combined are these known to fail/break ? :cheers:

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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 06:56:37 AM
The spring is non-load bearing like you said, it's just to keep the thing you slide in place that's it. The slider wedge against the notch on back of every tool to keep them open.


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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 10:40:35 AM
I've never heard of them breaking, or even becoming weak :), LM liner locks on the other hand...
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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #3 on: May 30, 2008, 05:26:23 PM
I have had a liner lock break on my old Wave.  LM replaced both handles with new ones and the locks are still utter pants.
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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #4 on: May 30, 2008, 05:36:01 PM
the locks are still utter pants.

LOL.  Can you translate that for us Yanks?
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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #5 on: May 30, 2008, 05:36:48 PM
the locks are still utter pants.

LOL.  Can you translate that for us Yanks?

A nice way to put it would be "not very good"  :D
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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #6 on: May 30, 2008, 05:38:44 PM
That was the feeling I got.  Thanks.
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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #7 on: May 30, 2008, 09:03:27 PM
I remember alot of talk about the Spirit lock failing a while back . I'm sure it was one incident with one guy posting it everywhere  :think: Remeber the Spirit is a light weight version and the Swisstool locks are a little larger .I certainly have never had a lock fail on a Swisstool or Spirit .

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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #8 on: May 30, 2008, 09:05:42 PM
Yeah, I have never had a lock fail on ANY MT either..
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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #9 on: May 31, 2008, 07:43:50 AM
I remember alot of talk about the Spirit lock failing a while back . I'm sure it was one incident with one guy posting it everywhere  :think: Remeber the Spirit is a light weight version and the Swisstool locks are a little larger .I certainly have never had a lock fail on a Swisstool or Spirit .

Dunc

I posted the thread he mentioned.  Actually, the lock holds great with steady pressure, it was only when I repeatedly used the awl to chip some ice that it failed. It did fail a whine tap test but again that's probably not real world. Still wonder what caused it though. I have NEVER had a Swisstool lock or a Leatherman lock fail.


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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #10 on: May 31, 2008, 09:59:02 AM
I remember alot of talk about the Spirit lock failing a while back . I'm sure it was one incident with one guy posting it everywhere  :think: Remeber the Spirit is a light weight version and the Swisstool locks are a little larger .I certainly have never had a lock fail on a Swisstool or Spirit .

Dunc

I posted the thread he mentioned.  Actually, the lock holds great with steady pressure, it was only when I repeatedly used the awl to chip some ice that it failed. It did fail a whine tap test but again that's probably not real world. Still wonder what caused it though. I have NEVER had a Swisstool lock or a Leatherman lock fail.

Maybe it was an early run or Spirits .

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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 12:18:00 AM


Maybe it was an early run or Spirits .

dunc
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It was. I haven't tried a newer one but am kind of concerned they would be the same way and then I'd have a third one. I know you can never have too many....


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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #12 on: June 02, 2008, 09:10:50 PM
I remember alot of talk about the Spirit lock failing a while back . I'm sure it was one incident with one guy posting it everywhere  :think: Remeber the Spirit is a light weight version and the Swisstool locks are a little larger .I certainly have never had a lock fail on a Swisstool or Spirit .

Dunc

I posted the thread he mentioned.  Actually, the lock holds great with steady pressure, it was only when I repeatedly used the awl to chip some ice that it failed. I

I had the same thing happen to my Spirit now that you mention it.  I thought maybe my hand slipped down the handle and accidentally moved the lock while I was chipping.  However, I think it might be that the action of chipping the ice might actually compress the spring enough to cause it to let go.
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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #13 on: June 03, 2008, 05:30:16 AM
I remember alot of talk about the Spirit lock failing a while back . I'm sure it was one incident with one guy posting it everywhere  :think: Remeber the Spirit is a light weight version and the Swisstool locks are a little larger .I certainly have never had a lock fail on a Swisstool or Spirit .

Dunc

I posted the thread he mentioned.  Actually, the lock holds great with steady pressure, it was only when I repeatedly used the awl to chip some ice that it failed. I

I had the same thing happen to my Spirit now that you mention it.  I thought maybe my hand slipped down the handle and accidentally moved the lock while I was chipping.  However, I think it might be that the action of chipping the ice might actually compress the spring enough to cause it to let go.
So that tiny spring could be a problem? Be interesting to do the ice chip test with a swisstool & see what happens. The swisstool & spirits springs visually look the same , is the swisstools larger ? :cheers:

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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #14 on: June 03, 2008, 10:15:50 AM
Yeah it's larger by a fair margin mate :)
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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #15 on: June 06, 2008, 03:39:55 AM
I trust my Vickies a lot more tha liner lock Leathermans ( which have never failed me yet ) .

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Re: How Does The Swisstools Locks Work?
Reply #16 on: June 06, 2008, 09:24:35 AM
similar with Benchmade axis lock.


 

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