Leatherman Surge is Illegal!

[Agonistes]

It's a knife where the blade comes out the front. Rather than folding out like a traditional folder it slides point first through the top of the handle.

There are a few high end knife companies that make them. Have a look at Microtech brand as I think they make some. It's been a while since I was interested in that kind of thing and my memory is a bit rusty.

Def

Sent from a digital multitool

thanks!  i went a-googling.  usually the guys around here think of those as switchblades, even though they aren't, or spring knives or sliders, i have heard them called.  i think i used to have one, actually, but it wasn't a great quality.

[Aloha]

It was a really tough call for me, but you guys spooked me on the plier heads breaking so I figured the old surge has more metal in the head for structural integrity, but if I end up carrying it more than my sidekick then I'll prob get a new surge too

The Surge is a beast congrats  .  Mine has dominated my work carry since getting it and my Wave is now my occasional off day carry when I want something larger than my S2.  It you bust the plier head be sure before sending it in to LM take plenty of pictures first. 

[Kampfer]

It was a really tough call for me, but you guys spooked me on the plier heads breaking so I figured the old surge has more metal in the head for structural integrity, but if I end up carrying it more than my sidekick then I'll prob get a new surge too

Sounds like a myth, for sure I amn't strong enough to break it.

[Cogito]

It was a really tough call for me, but you guys spooked me on the plier heads breaking so I figured the old surge has more metal in the head for structural integrity, but if I end up carrying it more than my sidekick then I'll prob get a new surge too

Sounds like a myth, for sure I amn't strong enough to break it.

I'm second guessing myself now. I was thinking about it and now I figured I should have gone with the new one, because if I didn't like the new surge so much I could have swapped the nicer tools into the sidekick!

[Kampfer]

I have Three Sidekicks, they can't compare to the New Surge, Versatility, design, strength, fit n finish.
There are reasons one is $99 the other is $30.

[Kampfer]

JAfromMn uses the smurf out of his ST300 pliers head day after day, he couldnt break it, yet.
Same head as new Surge BTW.

[Nhoj]

Florida is pretty lax on knives even switchblades, though I carry my Wave in a sheath. It's too heavy for pocket carry. I carry a Rambler and Style CS in my pocket but those have tiny blades. As for Commifornia, they have some of the goofiest laws in the nation, although NY might be surpassing them these days... 

I'm not going to talk about politics but knife wise NY state has no blade length restrictions which I'm glad for.

[Cogito]

I have Three Sidekicks, they can't compare to the New Surge, Versatility, design, strength, fit n finish.
There are reasons one is $99 the other is $30.

The only thing is that the Sidekick has springloaded pliers and slingshot mode and the Surge doesn't have that.

[Toolslinger]

It was a really tough call for me, but you guys spooked me on the plier heads breaking so I figured the old surge has more metal in the head for structural integrity, but if I end up carrying it more than my sidekick then I'll prob get a new surge too

Sounds like a myth, for sure I amn't strong enough to break it.

I'm second guessing myself now. I was thinking about it and now I figured I should have gone with the new one, because if I didn't like the new surge so much I could have swapped the nicer tools into the sidekick!

I don't think that the tools from the Surge will fit in the Sidekick. They are the larger tools like those found in the Core and ST300.

[Cogito]

I would probably have to file down the exact tools that I want. I know someone put the Charge tti tools into a sidekick before.  I would be mainly interested in the awl and the swappable bit driver, the can opener is already in it.

[nate j]

I've read somewhere Chicago is strict. Blades have to be sub-2" I believe. I could be wrong though.

I used to live a couple of hours from Chicago, and traveled there occasionally.  I think you are close; the limit is a 2.5" blade.  Although I personally have a difficult time envisioning anyone being arrested and charged with this, unless it was either (a) really obvious, like openly carrying a huge fixed blade, or (b) as an add-on to some other charge.  Better safe than sorry, though, I suppose.

Not to get overly political, but the patchwork of crazy state and local knife laws should be all the reason any of us who carry a blade need to support Knife Rights, AKTI, knife law preemption (at the state level), and the Knife Owners' Protection Act.

[sawman]

I've read somewhere Chicago is strict. Blades have to be sub-2" I believe. I could be wrong though.

I used to live a couple of hours from Chicago, and traveled there occasionally.  I think you are close; the limit is a 2.5" blade.  Although I personally have a difficult time envisioning anyone being arrested and charged with this, unless it was either (a) really obvious, like openly carrying a huge fixed blade, or (b) as an add-on to some other charge.  Better safe than sorry, though, I suppose.

Not to get overly political, but the patchwork of crazy state and local knife laws should be all the reason any of us who carry a blade need to support Knife Rights, AKTI, knife law preemption (at the state level), and the Knife Owners' Protection Act.

+1 

[Toolslinger]

I would probably have to file down the exact tools that I want. I know someone put the Charge tti tools into a sidekick before.  I would be mainly interested in the awl and the swappable bit driver, the can opener is already in it.

Charge/Wave Tools have the right pivot size. The Surge/St300 tools have a larger pivot size and aren't compatible with the Sidekick or Charge/Wave line.