Leatherman Surge is Illegal!

[Cogito]

I just wanted to give everyone a heads up as I found out that the Leatherman Surge is illegal to carry in Los Angeles and San Fransisco, California because the blade length is over 3 inches.

I wanted to give everyone a heads up in case you come to California to make sure that you don't carry a Surge with you, but afaik a wave is fine.

[captain spaulding]

Dont forget Oakland as well.

[Kampfer]

Show me the law

[captain spaulding]

Dont know the penal code off the top of my head but there is no blade length limit in california except the 3" limit for those three cities.

[droidpiggy]

I thought USA a country of more freedom ...

[Kampfer]

I thought USA a country of more freedom ...

It is, but California isn't a free state.

[ironraven]

Politics.... Be cool, everyone.

But yeah, stay out of California 

[Aloha]

I did not know about those NORCAL cities blade limit laws 

[Romanoat]

I've read somewhere Chicago is strict. Blades have to be sub-2" I believe. I could be wrong though. Knife laws are sporadic throughout the country, luckily for me New Jersey isn't like that.

[torogi]

Geez, Fremont is 2" max. I pass by Fremont all the time. I didn't know that. That is crazy.

[Kampfer]

Now makes me enjoy EDC Surge even more!

[Chako]

I am sure that plenty of cities have knife city by-laws that might be shocking to most. Here in my city, most folks think that a knife can't be any longer than your palm. However, having talked to a police friend of mine, he told me there was no such law on the books, but they don't advertise it as most like that people think this way. On the other hand, it is frowned upon to conceal a knife on a person. Your good to go if it is visible on a belt sheath. Mind you, if you are stopped and searched (The chance of that happening would be like winning the Provincial lottery), they could charge you with conceal carry if you have one hidden on you. A simple, I have a knife on me statement would probably allay this issue though. Knives are pretty common around here, and nobody ever uses them as weapons. Seriously, I can't recall the last time a knife was used to stab someone locally.

[sawman]

Florida is pretty lax on knives even switchblades, though I carry my Wave in a sheath. It's too heavy for pocket carry. I carry a Rambler and Style CS in my pocket but those have tiny blades. As for Commifornia, they have some of the goofiest laws in the nation, although NY might be surpassing them these days... 

[derekmac]

We have pretty good knife laws here, and from the below, it's law to carry one in unfamiliar terrain.

The law requires that you carry a knife or axe, waterproof matches (or matches in a waterproof container) and a compass when travelling in unfamiliar terrain. Some form of light weight shelter material, i.e. 6 mil plastic, would also be desirable. (Space blankets tend to rip and tear in severe weather). A small stove to provide warm liquid as well as the equipment necessary to provide for a fire (waterproofed, strike anywhere matches, as well as some fire starter material) should be carried at all times.

It's very common during hunting season to see people with various knives attached to their belt.  Fixed blades and Buck 110's are pretty common.

[Gilliand]

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I've always considered blade length one of the most arbitrary and stupid attributes to base knife restrictions on. About half of the kitchen knives are illegal this way. But, on the other hand, if you're a cop with poor results, you can always drop by into the nearest steak house and make a dozen of easy arrests - so I guess it's not entirely pointless idea

[Styerman]

Unless it's a tack on charge , Oakland , S.F. , and L.A. Cops have way more important stuff to worry about . That would go double for a Multi , as opposed to a folder .

Be discrete , don't act up , and don't worry . Be a Doofus , if they want you , they'll get you .

Chris

[Agonistes]

i honestly don't know any blade laws for alabama, but i do remember a cop friend remarking once that pretty much anything goes except a sharpened sword.

come to think of it, that guy isn't a cop anymore, perhaps i should read them.

[macabee]

On this side of the big pond, it is illegal any bladed article if:
 a/ it has a blade longer than 3 inches
 b/ The blade can be locked in the open position.

Unless you can provide a good reason for carrying it.

That would make nearly all Leatherman MT's illegal to carry in the UK, whilst I have a Rebar on my belt indoors, it stays indoors.

I do carry a Micra on my keyring, so far so good

[Higgins617]

We have pretty good knife laws here, and from the below, it's law to carry one in unfamiliar terrain.

The law requires that you carry a knife or axe, waterproof matches (or matches in a waterproof container) and a compass when travelling in unfamiliar terrain. Some form of light weight shelter material, i.e. 6 mil plastic, would also be desirable. (Space blankets tend to rip and tear in severe weather). A small stove to provide warm liquid as well as the equipment necessary to provide for a fire (waterproofed, strike anywhere matches, as well as some fire starter material) should be carried at all times.

It's very common during hunting season to see people with various knives attached to their belt.  Fixed blades and Buck 110's are pretty common.

Sorry to backtrack, but is that really a law/rule??? That is sweet, and pretty practical actually.

[derekmac]

We have pretty good knife laws here, and from the below, it's law to carry one in unfamiliar terrain.

The law requires that you carry a knife or axe, waterproof matches (or matches in a waterproof container) and a compass when travelling in unfamiliar terrain. Some form of light weight shelter material, i.e. 6 mil plastic, would also be desirable. (Space blankets tend to rip and tear in severe weather). A small stove to provide warm liquid as well as the equipment necessary to provide for a fire (waterproofed, strike anywhere matches, as well as some fire starter material) should be carried at all times.

It's very common during hunting season to see people with various knives attached to their belt.  Fixed blades and Buck 110's are pretty common.

Sorry to backtrack, but is that really a law/rule??? That is sweet, and pretty practical actually.

I did some searching on this, and can't really find anything.  This came from the Nova Scotia website. http://www.novascotia.ca/natr/wildlife/conserva/survival.asp

[jerseydevil]

I've read somewhere Chicago is strict. Blades have to be sub-2" I believe. I could be wrong though. Knife laws are sporadic throughout the country, luckily for me New Jersey isn't like that.

Yeah really!  We can't pump our own gas, but the knife laws are very relaxed here.  Don't be an ass with it, and you can get away with carrying just about anything.  Hell, the police chief in the town I work in carries a Kershaw Leek every day.  Guess where he first handled one..... 

[derekmac]

You can't pump your own gas??  I don't think we even have any full serve places left around here!!


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[jerseydevil]

You can't pump your own gas??  I don't think we even have any full serve places left around here!!

Only two states do not have any self-serve gas stations, NJ and Oregon.  And yet here we have some of the lowest gas prices  in the country......    It's actually a state law that dates back to 1949.

[derekmac]

You can't pump your own gas??  I don't think we even have any full serve places left around here!!

Only two states do not have any self-serve gas stations, NJ and Oregon.  And yet here we have some of the lowest gas prices  in the country......    It's actually a state law that dates back to 1949.

Who da thunk it.  You learn something new every day!


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[Agonistes]

so apparently alabama has one of the best blade carrying set of laws in the country.  according to what i found on the interwebs,

'If you don’t like legal speak, here is the basics of what are legal under Alabama knife laws.

    Balisongs/butterfly knives are legal.
    Switchblades, gravity knives, automatic and assisted opening knives are legal.
    Stilettos, dirks, and toothpick knives are legal.
    All folding knives are legal.
    Bowies are legal if carried open (like on your hip).
    Bowies are legal to carry concealed if you are on your own property.
    Double sided knives are legal, no  matter the size.
    If the knife fits in your pocket, it is legal.
    Out the front knives are legal.'



sooooooo, pretty much everything but a sword, and you can get away with that if it is double-sided.  and i want to know who is awesome enough to conceal-carry a knife big enough to be considered a real bowie.


edit:  what the smurf is an 'out-the-front' knife?  of course i visualize a 'fly blade' but that can't be right.

[Grant Lamontagne]

It's a knife where the blade comes out the front. Rather than folding out like a traditional folder it slides point first through the top of the handle.

There are a few high end knife companies that make them. Have a look at Microtech brand as I think they make some. It's been a while since I was interested in that kind of thing and my memory is a bit rusty.

Def

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[Cogito]

I know this is off topic but I just bought a Surge online like 5 mins ago  

[captain spaulding]

I know this is off topic but I just bought a Surge online like 5 mins ago

Nice! 


I normally go much more off topic than that. 

[Kampfer]

New or old? NEW OR OLD??? 

[Cogito]

It was a really tough call for me, but you guys spooked me on the plier heads breaking so I figured the old surge has more metal in the head for structural integrity, but if I end up carrying it more than my sidekick then I'll prob get a new surge too