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Vintage SAK Owners Club

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Re: Vintage SAK Owners Club
Reply #930 on: August 21, 2019, 05:39:53 PM
Lovely finds FB and VS - Especially that old Golfer - ARMEE SUISSE - Yay
Thank you Huntsman!  :hatsoff:
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Reply #931 on: August 21, 2019, 09:00:22 PM
Added this older Golfer today. 
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Be happy to help you clean up your collection if you decide that old ad knife doesn’t fit 😈.       👍👍👍👍👍


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Reply #932 on: August 21, 2019, 09:02:46 PM
Couple of recent finds.

Exposed rivets and old style awls....yummmmm!        👍👍👍👍👍


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Reply #933 on: August 22, 2019, 03:02:27 AM
Be happy to help you clean up your collection if you decide that old ad knife doesn’t fit 😈.       👍👍👍👍👍
If a mint-in-box one comes along, you'll have first dibs!  It actually arrived just today, it's very nice for its age.  :tu:
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Reply #934 on: August 22, 2019, 07:25:41 PM
Ok, I’m holding my breath 🤪🤪🤪.......


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Reply #935 on: August 25, 2019, 03:45:34 PM
Added this older Wenger:
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Reply #936 on: August 25, 2019, 03:50:43 PM
Added this older Wenger:
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And it's in remarkable shape for its age! I really need to get an older piece in that good a shape myself. Pretty much everything pre-1980s I own looks like heck.


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Reply #937 on: August 25, 2019, 03:52:39 PM
And it's in remarkable shape for its age! I really need to get an older piece in that good a shape myself. Pretty much everything pre-1980s I own looks like heck.
Apparently the other side has some marks on the scales, but that didn't stop me from wanting it.  It seemed to be in pretty good shape, I agree.  :tu:
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Re: Vintage SAK Owners Club
Reply #938 on: August 26, 2019, 05:58:18 PM
It looks like Victorinox started using new tools a bit earlier than 1952. What do you think?


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Reply #939 on: August 26, 2019, 06:16:39 PM
It looks like Victorinox started using new tools a bit earlier than 1952. What do you think?

So the big question here is "officially" the fish scaler comes out in 1952 with the rest of the big changes to the 91mm line. In actuality, we see the fish scaler come out in several models BEFORE the big 1952 changes and show up in the 1946-1951 Post War era knives. I have several of these and seen many more, and they are always knives from the end of the post war era, so my guess is that they were made late in the era (say 1950-1951) just looking at the tang stamps (always Armee Suisee/VaSS), how the knives are assembled, and how the parts are made. They could have been made early in the early vintage era (1952-1958) from left over parts, but this seems less likely - the post war fish scaler is slightly different in design from the early vintage scaler, so it's not just a case of "hey, let's cram this new fish scaler tool into the old knives".

I've seen four models from this era - the Angler (like this), Angler Jr (no scissors), Angler Solo (literally just a fish scaler), and Angler Plus (this but adds woodsaw). The latter is, AFAIK, the first 5 layer knife they made. The Angler variant is fairly unusual but shows up the most. The Angler Jr., Angler Solo, and Angler Plus models are very hard to find.
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Reply #940 on: September 02, 2019, 05:14:24 PM
I have this one coming, a 1908 version of the Soldier.  No date stamp on the back.
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Reply #941 on: September 02, 2019, 05:45:49 PM
I have this one coming, a 1908 version of the Soldier.  No date stamp on the back.


That is beautiful FB! :like: :tu: :tu:


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Reply #942 on: September 02, 2019, 08:14:51 PM
I have this one coming, a 1908 version of the Soldier.  No date stamp on the back.
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Reply #943 on: September 03, 2019, 01:05:47 AM
So the big question here is "officially" the fish scaler comes out in 1952 with the rest of the big changes to the 91mm line. In actuality, we see the fish scaler come out in several models BEFORE the big 1952 changes and show up in the 1946-1951 Post War era knives. I have several of these and seen many more, and they are always knives from the end of the post war era, so my guess is that they were made late in the era (say 1950-1951) just looking at the tang stamps (always Armee Suisee/VaSS), how the knives are assembled, and how the parts are made.
I think that's the strongest argument for it being in your late pwar era.  'Construction details' seem to make a very sharp transition in 91mm knives.

They could have been made early in the early vintage era (1952-1958) from left over parts, but this seems less likely - the post war fish scaler is slightly different in design from the early vintage scaler, so it's not just a case of "hey, let's cram this new fish scaler tool into the old knives".
I think if jnoxyd's knife was assembled c. '52 or later that it would likely have aluminum liners and 2.5mm pins on both ends, etc.


I've seen four models from this era - the Angler (like this), Angler Jr (no scissors), Angler Solo (literally just a fish scaler), and Angler Plus (this but adds woodsaw). The latter is, AFAIK, the first 5 layer knife they made. The Angler variant is fairly unusual but shows up the most. The Angler Jr., Angler Solo, and Angler Plus models are very hard to find.
. Would be interesting to see these together.  I gotta wonder what would be on the box of the solo.  Just 'f'? Something different like 70xxf?
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Re: Vintage SAK Owners Club
Reply #944 on: September 03, 2019, 01:11:06 AM
Rest in peace ColoSwiss, you will always be remembered.


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Reply #945 on: September 03, 2019, 02:12:07 AM
I have this one coming, a 1908 version of the Soldier.  No date stamp on the back.
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Reply #946 on: September 03, 2019, 07:53:39 PM
I think if jnoxyd's knife was assembled c. '52 or later that it would likely have aluminum liners and 2.5mm pins on both ends, etc.
What I meant was they assembled post 52 with leftover pre-52 parts - so old NS liners, etc. So chronologically the scaler was introduced in 1952, but at first in the old knives as they used up old stock. This is, IMO, a (slightly) possible but (extremely) not plausible theory. Much more likely they introduced the scaler in 1950(ish), and the official timeline from Victorinox is wrong (not for the first time).

I gotta wonder what would be on the box of the solo.  Just 'f'? Something different like 70xxf?

My suspicion is that it doesn't really have a model number in that it was never something made for sale. More likely a factory demo model for showing of the then-new fish scaler tool. Make a couple at the factory, give them to sales reps to show off, take orders for the 234fU, 235faU, and 236faU. Not dissimilar from the "Huntsman with backspring fine screwdriver" they made in the 80s/90s for display purposes.


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Reply #947 on: September 04, 2019, 06:31:40 AM
Not dissimilar from the "Huntsman with backspring fine screwdriver" they made in the 80s/90s for display purposes.

Mine has the chisel instead of the fine screwdriver. Is that a different model?
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Reply #948 on: September 05, 2019, 05:19:58 PM
Mine has the chisel instead of the fine screwdriver. Is that a different model?

Nope - that's the one I was thinking of. I looked at a pic real quick and thought "oh yeah, fine screwdriver" - you know, the older one that looks like the chisel.


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Reply #949 on: September 05, 2019, 05:40:45 PM
Understood :tu:
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Reply #950 on: September 06, 2019, 02:30:38 AM
I think  :think: this might be my first Pat. Pend. SAK
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Reply #951 on: September 06, 2019, 02:32:42 AM
Nice! Armee Suisse, Hoffritz or Victoria tang stamp?


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Reply #952 on: September 06, 2019, 02:57:09 AM
Nice! Armee Suisse, Hoffritz or Victoria tang stamp?
Thank you JB!  It is Victoria tang stamp.
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Reply #953 on: September 06, 2019, 03:35:54 AM
I think  :think: this might be my first Pat. Pend. SAK


Very cool FB! :like: :tu: :tu:


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Reply #954 on: September 09, 2019, 07:26:25 AM
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Reply #955 on: September 10, 2019, 03:20:28 AM
Filled another of the remaining holes in the 84mm “accumulation”, all the way from Switzerland.  I think I read that the seller is a member of this forum but not sure.  Small Climber, long nail file.....so good 😛.         :cheers:


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Reply #956 on: September 10, 2019, 03:55:14 AM
Filled another of the remaining holes in the 84mm “accumulation”, all the way from Switzerland.  I think I read that the seller is a member of this forum but not sure.  Small Climber, long nail file.....so good 😛.         :cheers:
The long nail file...another SAK that is on my list! Enjoy  :like:


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Reply #957 on: September 11, 2019, 03:47:06 AM
Filled another of the remaining holes in the 84mm “accumulation”, all the way from Switzerland.  I think I read that the seller is a member of this forum but not sure.  Small Climber, long nail file.....so good 😛.         :cheers:
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Reply #958 on: September 11, 2019, 03:57:18 AM
All these vintage SAK's look great!


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Reply #959 on: September 11, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
Filled another of the remaining holes in the 84mm “accumulation”, all the way from Switzerland.  I think I read that the seller is a member of this forum but not sure.  Small Climber, long nail file.....so good 😛.         :cheers:

Nice find Boonies! :like: :tu: :tu:


 

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