Any other Cellidor converts out there?

[sawman]

Although I have a good deal of Alox in my collection, at some point lately I've found I desire the Cellidor even more. I know the T&T have much to do with it but that's not the whole reason. I also love the look, feel and wear of a genuine Cellidor scale. I also like the tools available even though I'm well aware that Alox can be modded to accept much of the same features.

I have many colours of Cellidor and one thing you can't copy with Alox is a translucent scale.

Now before everyone starts toss rotten tomatoes, I'm not saying that one is any better than the other. I'm just asking who else prefers Cellidor over Alox.

Am I alone here?

[basilio]

I personally find alox ugly. 

[magentus]

Count me in - If Cellidor came with an in-line awl and the beefier blade I wouldn't look twice at Alox (although I love the look of my SI).

[Rich S]

For me, if it isn't red; it isn't a SAK :-)

Rich S

[hiraethus]

I like them both.  The smooth versatility of the Cellidor models and the rugged practicality of the Alox ones.  I can't decide if the Cellidor's back side tools are worth more to me than a well-worn Alox scale.

[magentus]

Coloured Alox is a different story! I've only got silver alox and I don't know how well that wears, but red looks great.

I love the feel of Cellidor though - especially the older solid stuff.

[Monrogue]

I am in a similar boat with the recent preference for cellidor.  I normally had no real preference either way.  I rarely use the back tools (if the hook is the nail file version, that adds more usage), and the scale tools only occasionally.  So alox was just fine for me, especially since I have a couple custom ones.  My Rogue was darn near perfect for an alox custom for my needs. 

However, recently there have been a couple or more occasions when someone has needed tweezers, or the straight pin, and I have been happy to be able to say I had those handy.  This is something you can't get with alox, with the exception of using the pliers as beefy tweezers (which is why I'm considering merging my Mechaneer and Rogue). 

I do like the feel and looks of both cellidor and alox.  One advantage the alox has is the smooth back springs with no back tools.  I love that feeling, combined with the scales.  There's also a better feeling of durability with the alox.  I always worry that if I drop a cellidor model from any considerable height, one of the scales could break in some form.  I don't have that worry with alox, other than scratching the paint.

Overall, I think the cellidor edges out the alox for me, due to the increased versatility.  Even though I do have a couple alox customs, they just can't offer all that cellidor does. 

[Corwyn]

I love Cellidor. I love how it looks and how it feels (could carress it for hours), I also use the T&T and the backtools a lot so it's a nobrainer.

I do like Alox too, it looks amazing, it's light and strong (and brand-new coloured scales are a thing of beauty).

The reason I'll never go into Alox 100% (I do have an SI, a Classic and a USB laying around) is because of the way coloured Alox looks after a while... I don't mind cellidor minor scratches but when coloured Alox begins peeling it just looks "junky" to me. I know some people like the look, but I hate it. If I get a red or toxic green Alox (as I'm planning) I'll shelf-queen them ASAP so they don't get scratched... the cellidors I all use, even the special editions...

[sawman]

I'd like to point out an economic consideration between the two:

Coloured Cellidor generally does not cost any more like coloured Alox does!

I have just about every colour of Rambler and they all cost about the same...

[Monrogue]

That's a good point Steve   Alox is very limited in what is offered tool wise for stock models.  One has to pay a considerable amount to get a custom alox (which I still recommend doing if one really wants to ), whereas one is likely to find what one needs in a stock cellidor model (depending on the number of implements one really wants).  I know in my case, I had to get my custom Rogueneer to really get my ideal cellidor loadout, but not everyone is as particular about these things as I can be (or overly analytical/obsessive )

[sawman]

That's a good point Steve   Alox is very limited in what is offered tool wise for stock models.  One has to pay a considerable amount to get a custom alox (which I still recommend doing if one really wants to ), whereas one is likely to find what one needs in a stock cellidor model (depending on the number of implements one really wants).  I know in my case, I had to get my custom Rogueneer to really get my ideal cellidor loadout, but not everyone is as particular about these things as I can be (or overly analytical/obsessive )

I see that you wanted something that many other people also want - an electrician blade. To get this, you need to have a custom build unfortunately. I wish Vic would release some SAKs with this option.

[SAK Guy]

I like them both but nice cond./cool/scarce ALOX is increasingly out of my reach!

[Monrogue]

That's a good point Steve   Alox is very limited in what is offered tool wise for stock models.  One has to pay a considerable amount to get a custom alox (which I still recommend doing if one really wants to ), whereas one is likely to find what one needs in a stock cellidor model (depending on the number of implements one really wants).  I know in my case, I had to get my custom Rogueneer to really get my ideal cellidor loadout, but not everyone is as particular about these things as I can be (or overly analytical/obsessive )

I see that you wanted something that many other people also want - an electrician blade. To get this, you need to have a custom build unfortunately. I wish Vic would release some SAKs with this option.

Exactly.  That and the nail file hook, which is only available on the Compact as far as I know.  I know I've hounded on this before, but I don't understand why the nail file hook isn't the standard.  Probably a cost issue, but it adds so much without taking up any space. 

Even if one requires a custom cellidor, it's not nearly as pricey as an alox custom typically.  Of course, if you have all or most of the parts needed, this does significantly impact the cost of both.  I think alox is a little more involving from what I can tell though. 

[derekmac]

That's a good point Steve   Alox is very limited in what is offered tool wise for stock models.  One has to pay a considerable amount to get a custom alox (which I still recommend doing if one really wants to ), whereas one is likely to find what one needs in a stock cellidor model (depending on the number of implements one really wants).  I know in my case, I had to get my custom Rogueneer to really get my ideal cellidor loadout, but not everyone is as particular about these things as I can be (or overly analytical/obsessive )

I never noticed that.  

I really do like both, but usually carry Cellidor as I like having tweezers on me.  I seldom use the back tools, but they don't bother me.  I do prefer the way Alox feels in the hand, and how they have a slightly beefier blade, and inline awl.  If I could get the Alox scales on my Soldier with scissors and Pioneer machined to fit tweezers, I'd probably carry them more.

[Monrogue]

That's a good point Steve   Alox is very limited in what is offered tool wise for stock models.  One has to pay a considerable amount to get a custom alox (which I still recommend doing if one really wants to ), whereas one is likely to find what one needs in a stock cellidor model (depending on the number of implements one really wants).  I know in my case, I had to get my custom Rogueneer to really get my ideal cellidor loadout, but not everyone is as particular about these things as I can be (or overly analytical/obsessive )

I never noticed that.  

I really do like both, but usually carry Cellidor as I like having tweezers on me.  I seldom use the back tools, but they don't bother me.  I do prefer the way Alox feels in the hand, and how they have a slightly beefier blade, and inline awl.  If I could get the Alox scales on my Soldier with scissors and Pioneer machined to fit tweezers, I'd probably carry them more.

 

If there was an alox model that came with scissors, that would be a big help for starters.  I have no real use for a wood saw on a SAK, and it bugs me that the Farmer is the extent of the normal stock alox models.  There really should be more variety.

[derekmac]

Agreed.  I still don't believe that they don't make an Alox SAK with scissors. 

[Syph007]

You dont have to be a convert, just have lots of each.

I'll confess that my EDC is a cellidor.  Cybertool 34.  Its got so much stuff packed in there, its a great user.  For me to recreate the same on alox would be a tall order.

I do like the feel of alox though over plastic, but someday I swear I'll make alox scales for 91mm's.

[Monrogue]

You dont have to be a convert, just have lots of each.

I'll confess that my EDC is a cellidor.  Cybertool 34.  Its got so much stuff packed in there, its a great user.  For me to recreate the same on alox would be a tall order.

I do like the feel of alox though over plastic, but someday I swear I'll make alox scales for 91mm's.

It's funny as I would picture you to be an alox man for some reason   It would be really cool if you get into 91mm alox scales, especially if you were to do the cutouts for the T&T...and even moreso if you were to make them Plus scales

[Lynn LeFey]

I like both cellidor and Alox. I prefer the T&T of the Cellidor a tad over Alox. While, in theory, the alox is stronger and harder wearing, I'm not very hard on my tools. I don't drop them almost ever.

My big problem with Cellidor is when you first get them, and they're absolutely FLAWLESS... then one touch and fingerprints. Then, a few small scratches, and that weird reluctance of using them because of that. One thing I love about getting used SAKs. They're pre-imperfected. Yes, that's a word... now.

I found the Silvertech scales on my climber hide those initial fingerprint/scratches really well, so caused a lot less stress on the initial break-in period.

And, yeah, something really cool about a traditional red scaled SAK. 

[archerwin]

Good thing abouy cellidor scales is if it gets too ugly you can just pop them out and replace with a shiny new one! You can upgrade as well to a plus if your isn't yet.


archerwinsak.blogspot.com.au

[Zed]

Now a alox explorer    why dont victorinox make larger alox models  and i like both 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Yep I'm a fan of both too as usually have a mini champ and swiss champ to go with my farmer

Sent via Astropathic choir.

[Aloha]

I have a few Alox and while beautiful I EDC cellidor.  I like that if I damage the scale I can reasonably replace them.  I also love the Swisschamp, Deluxe Tinker, and Explorer Plus more than my Alox for EDC.   

[sawman]

I have a few Alox and while beautiful I EDC cellidor.  I like that if I damage the scale I can reasonably replace them.  I also love the Swisschamp, Deluxe Tinker, and Explorer Plus more than my Alox for EDC.   

There's no substitute for the Sapphire scales on my Swiss Champ or the Ruby reds on my CT41

[colt 1911]

Cellidor all the way,


Sak's  rule !

[ford1911]

I really like alox but I edc a cellidor simply for the tweezers, toothpick and pen.

[JAfromMn]

I like it.

I think both have there place.

I prefer the tools of cellidor Saks especially for a work knife.

[rberlin]

Nylon.

Dull, cheap, and scratch resistant.  Just like me. 

[Huntsman]

Dull, cheap, and scratch resistant.  Just like me.

Good thread and discussion Sawman - and great thoughts/comments everyone.
It seems most of us like both, including me - But cellidor is edging ahead?? Maybe inevitable due to the topic!

I usually carrry, and prefer, a cellidor (although it's a lovely Wenger Evowood 13 today) - Yep like the tp/tw and miss them if ever I carry an alox - On those occasions I usually pop a Classic in my pocket too, which also gives you the handy nail file

However what I would like to know is why Victorinox don't have a wider range in the alox especially  scissors.
We know it can be done technically by all our clever modders, or is there some reason why this can't be done in a mass produced way.

I am wondering if it's almost a philosophical decision by Vic ie:
"The alox range are our 'Soldier knives' -tough, slim, practical, limited toolset for easy cary.
The cellidor range are our 'Officer Knives' where we offer all the tool variations and larger size"

?? What do y'all think? 

[sawman]

That could be it.. or.. maybe they just don't think they would sell. I think there's a little bit of stubbornness going on with Vic.