Improving the Rebar

[Cupboard]

Question for people wanting the diamond file: what do you use it for?

On my MTs I only tend to use the cross cut side. Fine sharpening I do with one of my various dedicated sharpeners and coarse sharpening I do on a grinder.

As for the Rebar: I'd like to see a better array of flat screwdrivers (like the Pulse) because I find the ones on the current Rebar too limited. I'd also like a knifeless version, maybe having both the bit driver and long Phillips like my mod.

[sawman]

Question for people wanting the diamond file: what do you use it for?

On my MTs I only tend to use the cross cut side. Fine sharpening I do with one of my various dedicated sharpeners and coarse sharpening I do on a grinder.

As for the Rebar: I'd like to see a better array of flat screwdrivers (like the Pulse) because I find the ones on the current Rebar too limited. I'd also like a knifeless version, maybe having both the bit driver and long Phillips like my mod.

If there were a knifeless version of the Rebar, that would open up all kinds of space for more drivers, which I think is a great idea. If I need a knife, I'm not very likely to go thru all the steps of opening the Rebar then plucking out the blade. I'd rather use a dedicated folder or the blade on my Wave.

[captain spaulding]

Question for people wanting the diamond file: what do you use it for?

On my MTs I only tend to use the cross cut side. Fine sharpening I do with one of my various dedicated sharpeners and coarse sharpening I do on a grinder.

As for the Rebar: I'd like to see a better array of flat screwdrivers (like the Pulse) because I find the ones on the current Rebar too limited. I'd also like a knifeless version, maybe having both the bit driver and long Phillips like my mod.

If there were a knifeless version of the Rebar, that would open up all kinds of space for more drivers, which I think is a great idea. If I need a knife, I'm not very likely to go thru all the steps of opening the Rebar then plucking out the blade. I'd rather use a dedicated folder or the blade on my Wave.

hmmm... Knifeless Rebar. I rather like that and think its a great idea. 

[sawman]

Question for people wanting the diamond file: what do you use it for?

On my MTs I only tend to use the cross cut side. Fine sharpening I do with one of my various dedicated sharpeners and coarse sharpening I do on a grinder.

As for the Rebar: I'd like to see a better array of flat screwdrivers (like the Pulse) because I find the ones on the current Rebar too limited. I'd also like a knifeless version, maybe having both the bit driver and long Phillips like my mod.

If there were a knifeless version of the Rebar, that would open up all kinds of space for more drivers, which I think is a great idea. If I need a knife, I'm not very likely to go thru all the steps of opening the Rebar then plucking out the blade. I'd rather use a dedicated folder or the blade on my Wave.

hmmm... Knifeless Rebar. I rather like that and think its a great idea. 

The Rebar's 2 knife blades are dangerously thin anyhow. As Gareth demonstrated in his review, they can be easily bent with little effort.

[pingu]

Question for people wanting the diamond file: what do you use it for?

To answer "what would I use it for", light duty dressing of hardish material using a tool which almost uniquely is "flimsy" compared with the stresses which most other tools have to resist when used as designed.

You raise an interesting question about a knifeless version (I see you are fellow "nanny UK'er").  While I have modded my blades to be non locking, freeing up "long space" for other tools has some merit.  I fitted scissors and lost the awl but I might revisit my tool load-out and reinstate the awl over one of the blades and as you suggest cover that with a dedicated folder.

(Apologies that last suggestion was sawman's.  I'm not keeping up)

[av8r1]

I use a diamond file for sharpening things, like lawnmowers, hedge clippers, and REALLY dull knives.  I don't own a coarse whetstone, so I use my Wave for that.  I don't tend to use my crosscut file much.  I use the notching edge more than the crosscut side.  The Wave has my favorite configuration of file, it can do any filing you need.

I'd go along with a knifeless Rebar.  I think a 100% tool would go over well, nothing says a multitool has to contain a knife.  Cram in a good pair of scissors and...something else (maybe a combination corkscrew/fish scaler?  ) and you've got a great companion to a tactical folder.

[PTRSAK]

...  so, would that be a Cork-Scaler or a Fish-Screw?   

[David]

I dont need no scissors on a Rebar. Getting rid of the lanyard ring for a thicker knife blade would be okay!   

[JAfromMn]

Stronger Drivers

[captain spaulding]

Stronger Drivers

 

[sawman]

Stronger Drivers

I know Joel, that image you posted of little man will stick with me for many years to come. 

[Crow]

Stronger Drivers

 

God i laughed...

[JAfromMn]

I'm glad I put a smile on your face

still they need to improve them

a tool shouldn't break using it on something it was made for.

they could ditch the unless lanyard ring and make the flat driver thicker.

has anyone used the ring. I have never seen anyone use it.

[pingu]

has anyone used the ring. I have never seen anyone use it.

Pay attention at the back

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,37642.msg897691.html#msg897691

I have to say I totally agree with you.  While I prefer lanyard carry, or at least a short length of cord, the ugly Rebar ring is worse than an afterthought on a tool of elegant simple lines.   I'd like to see an attachment at the plier pivot end, a tab a la PST or something better.

I plan to ditch mine and possibly replace with a slimline lanyard loop/caplifter made from a Bear Grylls Compact driver.  If its going to look an ugly afterthought might as well be useful.

[Cupboard]

...  so, would that be a Cork-Scaler or a Fish-Screw?   

you joke, but I was staying somewhere this week and the provided corkscrew's screw was so badly defined you couldn't use it to open a bottle. Probably would have worked as a fish scaler!

Glad to have had a SAK with me for that and the can opener.

[kirk13]

...  so, would that be a Cork-Scaler or a Fish-Screw?   

you joke, but I was staying somewhere this week and the provided corkscrew's screw was so badly defined you couldn't use it to open a bottle. Probably would have worked as a fish scaler!

Glad to have had a SAK with me for that and the can opener.

Which brings us back to this: Every good SAK should be paired with a good LM. Every good LM should be paired with a SAK!

[CanadianLMfan]

The Rebar might be better with rounder handles and scissors.

[Rux]

Scissors and a built in but removable pocket clip would be the secks as far as the Rebar goes.

Leave the rest of it alone, please!

[sawman]

Scissors and a built in but removable pocket clip would be the secks as far as the Rebar goes.

Leave the rest of it alone, please!

What they need to do is bring back the classic scissors as found on the OG-Wave and PST II.

[AaronX]

That reminds me - the PST II had this funky scissors where the handle folded out as well, so there were 2 pivots (not counting the one in the tool's body). Is that the original scissors? How many tools had it?

[colt 1911]

BN rebar




Sak's  rule !

[av8r1]

What's the benefit of blunting the pliers?  I usually need them for fine work.  I wish my Skeletool's pliers were pointier most of the time.

[colt 1911]

What's the benefit of blunting the pliers?  I usually need them for fine work.  I wish my Skeletool's pliers were pointier most of the time.

For me, getting to nuts , bolts , wires in tight spots, a lot of time the long neddle nose get in the way.


Sak's  rule !

[Parkerpusher]

For me,  I would love a thicker main blade.   Not a lot,  just a fraction would make it a real user.   Also,  I don't need a serrated blade or scan opener.   Would love to trade these,  and maybe lose the lanyard ring,  for a Bosch jigsaw blade holder.   Lanyard rings should be an option that,  when required,  get mounted to the exterior like my sog ppp.   Each user will have different ideas I guess based on their day to day needs.   Also,  maybe better blade steel option.

[pingu]

Lanyard rings should be an option that,  when required,  get mounted to the exterior like my sog ppp.

I do agree with that and preferably on the pivot away from the knife pivot.

I realise that lanyard rings are not that popular but here is my idea of an "improvement", the lanyard ring bottle opener.   It mangles the cap every bit as well as most LM cap lifters so I reckon it earns its place.

It also happens to be thinner so as a feature would allow a thicker main blade say.

[sawman]

Lanyard rings should be an option that,  when required,  get mounted to the exterior like my sog ppp.

I do agree with that and preferably on the pivot away from the knife pivot.

I realise that lanyard rings are not that popular but here is my idea of an "improvement", the lanyard ring bottle opener.   It mangles the cap every bit as well as most LM cap lifters so I reckon it earns its place.

It also happens to be thinner so as a feature would allow a thicker main blade say.

Looking at the bottom pivots the handle indentation will not allow an external lanyard attachment so it will have to go up at the top like the PST's. I really don't mind that however and that's exactly what I wish they would do

[Taxi Dad]

Lanyard rings should be an option that,  when required,  get mounted to the exterior like my sog ppp.

I do agree with that and preferably on the pivot away from the knife pivot.

I realise that lanyard rings are not that popular but here is my idea of an "improvement", the lanyard ring bottle opener.   It mangles the cap every bit as well as most LM cap lifters so I reckon it earns its place.

It also happens to be thinner so as a feature would allow a thicker main blade say.

that's good work sir  thinking 'multi use' is the name of the game I think 

[pingu]

OK, I've had to remove the Victorinox scissors because they were springing up and jabbing me.  The upside is the awl has gone back in.   Actually it was my new Wave that decided that.  Found it a bit light on heavy duty tools.   Not convinced there is a place for a precision screwdriver on a full sized MT.  Wasted scarce space IMO.  Not needed by me anyway, there is one on my keyring.  But I think the Wave misses an awl.

My conclusion is its not that easy to improve the Rebar .