Two boys and their SAKS

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #30 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:37:31 PM

Et voila...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dangerous-Book-Boys-Conn-Iggulden/dp/0007232748

A mate of my bought it for me for my 30th, and it'll be my son's soon

Spoonrobot · **Reply #31 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:37:45 PM

Just to add to what was said earlier: I think the problem is not the elimination of the historical figures from curricula of education but the larger messages that are illustrated by these figures. Themes such as perseverance against great odds, sacrifice for the greater good, the ability to stand alone against a majority and overall pioneering spirit are not things that most people are familiar with. Instead the focus for the student becomes inward; how do you feel about X?

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What's the book about then Huh

A myriad of things. History, valuable outdoor skills, language, knots, astronomy, first-aid, science, mathematics and so forth. It's an excellent broad view of important and interesting things that really appeals and applies to all ages.

Benner · **Reply #32 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:37:51 PM

Quote from: micky d on June 25, 2008, 07:36:12 PM

Quote from: Benner on June 25, 2008, 07:33:32 PM
What's the book about then
I'll find a link for it, but it's basically all the fun thing from your childhood condenced into a book

My childhood was largely TV based, so is it just a hard backed TV guide?

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #33 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:39:45 PM

Quote from: Benner on June 25, 2008, 07:37:51 PM

Quote from: micky d on June 25, 2008, 07:36:12 PM
Quote from: Benner on June 25, 2008, 07:33:32 PM
What's the book about then
I'll find a link for it, but it's basically all the fun thing from your childhood condenced into a book

My childhood was largely TV based, so is it just a hard backed TV guide?

Not quite Ben no

Benner · **Reply #34 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:41:11 PM

What I need is someone who works in a bookshop to hook me up with one.

FredKJ · **Reply #35 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:42:21 PM

Well "The Dangerous Book for Boys" is originally a Brit book that has been republished in America and somewhat Americanized. It's all about boy stuff, you know like using your pocket knife, skipping stones, heros like Crockett and Boone. Designed to get kids away from video games and doing stuff like whittling instead. It's just an amalgam of topics, basic knowledge a boy should know that isn't being taught or handed down to them anymore.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #36 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:42:51 PM

Quote from: Benner on June 25, 2008, 07:41:11 PM

What I need is someone who works in a bookshop to hook me up with one.

Shame you don't know anyone who does really

FredKJ · **Reply #37 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:45:23 PM

So when you pull out your SAK to solve any problem you want that ambiance of thinking of yourself as a modern Daniel Boone or Davy Crockett on the frontier handling any problem you face.

"Be always sure you're right, then go ahead."
-Davy Crockett

FredKJ · **Reply #38 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:48:49 PM

Quote from: Benner on June 25, 2008, 07:37:51 PM

Quote from: micky d on June 25, 2008, 07:36:12 PM
Quote from: Benner on June 25, 2008, 07:33:32 PM
What's the book about then
I'll find a link for it, but it's basically all the fun thing from your childhood condenced into a book

My childhood was largely TV based, so is it just a hard backed TV guide?

Benner, think MacGyver with a coon skin hat and a Kentucky long rifle. Does that help to relate?

Benner · **Reply #39 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:50:05 PM

Quote from: FredKJ on June 25, 2008, 07:48:49 PM

Benner, think MacGyver with a coon skin hat and a Kentucky long rifle. Does that help to relate?

I think you'd be better off trying to relate it to the Simpsons.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #40 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:50:42 PM

He'll think a Kentuckey long rifle is something Colonel Sanders used in the army

Spoonrobot · **Reply #41 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:51:04 PM

Think Jebediah Springfield.

FredKJ · **Reply #42 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:54:36 PM

Quote from: Benner on June 25, 2008, 07:50:05 PM

Quote from: FredKJ on June 25, 2008, 07:48:49 PM
Benner, think MacGyver with a coon skin hat and a Kentucky long rifle. Does that help to relate?

I think you'd be better off trying to relate it to the Simpsons.

Well I guess it's not a stretch to think of Bart Simpson and "The Dangerous Book for Boys" in the same breath. Just put Bart in the wilderness with a SAK and you've got it pictured.

Benner · **Reply #43 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:55:54 PM

Quote from: Spoonrobot on June 25, 2008, 07:51:04 PM

Think Jebediah Springfield.

Wasn't he a pirate originally? So the books about Dunc then?

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #44 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:56:32 PM

Quote from: Benner on June 25, 2008, 07:55:54 PM

Quote from: Spoonrobot on June 25, 2008, 07:51:04 PM
Think Jebediah Springfield.

Wasn't he a pirate originally? So the books about Dunc then?

LMAO

FredKJ · **Reply #45 on:** June 25, 2008, 08:01:29 PM

Think of Bart Simpson as the reincarnation of Jebediah Springfield come back to haunt Springfield. The revisionist history books speak of men like Jebediah Springfield, Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett but Bart is actually living it which is disturbing to those around him.

Mike · **Reply #46 on:** June 25, 2008, 08:03:06 PM

Lets hear more about your 12 year old twins and their knife/first aid/knot tying/being with dad adventures. Man, I'm 48 years old and am really enjoying your entries. Keep 'em coming.

Mike

Benner · **Reply #47 on:** June 25, 2008, 08:03:32 PM

Quote from: FredKJ on June 25, 2008, 08:01:29 PM

Think of Bart Simpson as the reincarnation of Jebediah Springfield come back to haunt Springfield. The revisionist history books speak of men like Jebediah Springfield, Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett but Bart is actually living it which is disturbing to those around him.

I think we might be on to a new way of teaching here.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #48 on:** June 25, 2008, 08:05:14 PM

Quote from: mike on June 25, 2008, 08:03:06 PM

Lets hear more about your 12 year old twins and their knife/first aid/knot tying/being with dad adventures. Man, I'm 48 years old and am really enjoying your entries. Keep 'em coming.

Mike

Well said that man

FredKJ · **Reply #49 on:** June 25, 2008, 08:05:30 PM

Quote from: mike on June 25, 2008, 08:03:06 PM

Lets hear more about your 12 year old twins and their knife/first aid/knot tying/being with dad adventures. Man, I'm 48 years old and am really enjoying your entries. Keep 'em coming.

Mike

I will. We plan on doing some geocaching and nature stuff this weekend. Looking forward to their outside of the box creative uses for their SAK's. They've already burned some ants with the magnifying glass and figured out a novel use for the corkscrew.

FredKJ · **Reply #50 on:** June 25, 2008, 08:07:42 PM

Quote from: micky d on June 25, 2008, 08:05:14 PM

Quote from: mike on June 25, 2008, 08:03:06 PM
Lets hear more about your 12 year old twins and their knife/first aid/knot tying/being with dad adventures. Man, I'm 48 years old and am really enjoying your entries. Keep 'em coming.

Mike
Well said that man

We'll get things back on track micky d. Had to get Benner so he can relate. You know how I have to translate for you Brits.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #51 on:** June 25, 2008, 08:10:41 PM

Quote from: FredKJ on June 25, 2008, 08:07:42 PM

Quote from: micky d on June 25, 2008, 08:05:14 PM
Quote from: mike on June 25, 2008, 08:03:06 PM
Lets hear more about your 12 year old twins and their knife/first aid/knot tying/being with dad adventures. Man, I'm 48 years old and am really enjoying your entries. Keep 'em coming.

Mike
Well said that man

We'll get things back on track micky d. Had to get Benner so he can relate. You know how I have to translate for you Brits.

I think we pick things up pretty quick mate

Benner · **Reply #52 on:** June 25, 2008, 08:12:26 PM

Quote from: micky d on June 25, 2008, 08:10:41 PM

Quote from: FredKJ on June 25, 2008, 08:07:42 PM
Quote from: micky d on June 25, 2008, 08:05:14 PM
Quote from: mike on June 25, 2008, 08:03:06 PM
Lets hear more about your 12 year old twins and their knife/first aid/knot tying/being with dad adventures. Man, I'm 48 years old and am really enjoying your entries. Keep 'em coming.

Mike
Well said that man

We'll get things back on track micky d. Had to get Benner so he can relate. You know how I have to translate for you Brits.
I think we pick things up pretty quick mate

Are you including Ryan in that statement?

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #53 on:** June 25, 2008, 08:14:14 PM

Well...no...obviously

, he'll chime in, in 14 mins

FredKJ · **Reply #54 on:** June 25, 2008, 08:25:54 PM

I hear ya "mate". What I want to teach my boys with the SAK's is that spirit if self-reliance. With this little gadget in their pocket they can face anything and solve problems on their own. So I am teaching them Boone and Crockett with it. It's that whole Jeffersonian man thing but I digress.

Roadie · **Reply #55 on:** June 25, 2008, 09:11:20 PM

Quote from: micky d on June 25, 2008, 08:14:14 PM

Well...no...obviously , he'll chime in, in 14 mins

Hey! Just cos i don't spend every waking hour on here

I was watching Wimbledon while eating Chili

FredKJ · **Reply #56 on:** June 26, 2008, 05:21:09 PM

The boys didn't have much interest in whittling last night. I ordered a whittling book. They brought some sticks back but I have to teach them how to identify natural wood that is not too green nor approaching being rotten.

ducktapehero · **Reply #57 on:** June 26, 2008, 10:15:07 PM

It may be politically incorrect but I'll raise my son like I was raised. By the time I was 12 I could out-shoot most full grown men. Of course now that I'm a man I get out shot by most 12 year olds. Thankfully I have bad eyesight so I can blame it on that.

But I have already got my sons 1st rifle. It's a Remington Viper 22. I MAY trade it in and get something else later on if finances allow but if not it should make an OK 1st rifle. He'll get it when I think he's ready. Also when he's old enough I will get him his 1st pocketknife. A Victorinox of course. I will also teach him to spit, cuss, pray and fight. I will also add I'll teach him when it's appropriate to do these things. I don't want him cussing in church....again.

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #58 on:** June 26, 2008, 10:20:09 PM

I've already got my son a ''My first Vic'' too, I really am looking forward to him being old enough for me to be able to give it to him

Neil · **Reply #59 on:** June 26, 2008, 10:26:35 PM

I asked my five year old when he thought he'd be old enough for a pocket knife. He answered "when I'm a grown-up". He was quite shocked to learn that both my wife and I were given penknives when we were seven and eight.

I had got a couple of My First Vics. stashed but I'm now thinking I make make him a custom knife.

Neil

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