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Is it hard to swap scales?
on: August 23, 2014, 04:18:05 PM
Is it hard to swap cellidor scales on an SAK? Also, where would I go to find different color/design/nylon scales? I'm ready for something other than the normal red scales.
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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #1 on: August 23, 2014, 04:28:28 PM
It is really easy, I like to put the knife  in warm water for a few minutes then slip a thin blade between the scale and liner and gentle pry working my way down the knife. The warm water helps from breaking the plastic at the rivets.


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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #2 on: August 23, 2014, 05:03:00 PM
I know there's been a khajillion threads about this, but I'm still scared to do it...

I swapped dozens of scales so far using the warm water method and it worked ok (tried once "dry" and chipped much of the ring).
Now I want to put the Silvertech scales from my Siglite on a Minichamp and I'm afraid I'll ruin them... the holes are tiny, the scales are tiny and seem brittle so I guess I should use warm water to soften them up, but I'm afraid bathing the pen and the flashlight in warm water will ruin them.. any tips?
I really care about my pretty Siglite that I got from Zurich, but I hate that it lacks nail cleaner, Philips and cap lifter...
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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #3 on: August 23, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
Use a hair dryer. ;)
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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #4 on: August 23, 2014, 05:53:36 PM
Don't put the electronics in water !!!


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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #5 on: August 23, 2014, 05:54:23 PM

Quote from: enki_ck on August 23, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
Use a hair dryer. ;)

+ 1 good idea


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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #6 on: August 23, 2014, 05:54:49 PM
And take the battery out!
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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #7 on: August 23, 2014, 05:55:54 PM

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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #8 on: August 23, 2014, 06:49:37 PM
...and if you fail, you can always blame Kirky :pok:
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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #9 on: August 23, 2014, 06:57:18 PM
@ToolJoe - you can find the (various) scales on eBay, here on the trade subforum or on the other EDC forums, or you can ask your local Vic dealer about the replacement scales.

Maybe the cheapest way would be to ask your local dealer, if you have the opportunity to visit them.

If your SAK gets a lot of scratches, I would recommend you getting the nylon scales. You will lose the pin hole, but they are far more scratch resistant.
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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #10 on: August 23, 2014, 07:02:53 PM
BTW you might find this video useful:

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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #11 on: August 23, 2014, 07:15:34 PM
Not to be forgotten:

1) If you will use the vice (as it is shown here in this video), put a cloth or thin towel (or even a paper handkerchief) between the scales and the vice, so the scales don't get scratched.
2) Don't overpressure it! Slowly compress it until the scales have visibly completely reached the liners.

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Phew, 4 posts... I could have said that all in a single post  :facepalm:
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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #12 on: August 23, 2014, 07:21:28 PM
Ow, two tips for the original question:
  • put warm water if you want to reuse old scales, if not, you can just take them off dry, but it might be hard/impossible to fit them on another knife - Swisssbianco does it in the vid because he wants to throw out the old scales
  • when you put in the new scales - especially for 58 mm - you can usually press them together by hand, it doesn't work, wrap the handle a few times in a towel than press on a vice or plier
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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #13 on: August 23, 2014, 10:06:33 PM
All you need is a utility knife/box cutter. All my 58mm scales have been removed with a simple UT/BC knife. The thin blade slides underneath the scales rather easy.

With Sig lites I start from the little hole that's used for pushing out the battery and on the pen side start by the pen slide.

Another thing that may help with an easy removal is using a hair dryer or heat gun to warm up the scales.

For pressing them back together a simple C clamp will work or anything that'll apply consistent pressure, so no hammer strikes. With 58mm hand pressure is normally enough, but with the 91's you may want a C clamp, vice, or something similar.

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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #14 on: August 23, 2014, 10:11:57 PM
Quote from: Corwyn on August 23, 2014, 05:03:00 PM
Now I want to put the Silvertech scales from my Siglite on a Minichamp
Me too...

Then I did.

Like I mentioned it's no more difficult then the standard scales. And it was done without applying heat.
Nothing will go wrong that super glue wont fix.
Just remember while removing to make sure to get the blade underneath the LED motherboard. It's not hard. If I can do it, anyone can. 
If you have any other Sig Lites possibly one with a red LED (aint nobody gonna miss that) practice by removing those scales.
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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #15 on: August 23, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
Need 58mm scales?!?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Victorinox-Swiss-Army-Knife-Replacement-SCALES-2-1-4-58mm-TOOTHIPICK-TWEEZERS-/191267773670?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c88729ce6
Haven't found a better deal then this anywhere on the web TBH...
The seller also make custom wood scales. I haven't done business with this individual, but may in the near future.

Next best bet is Felinevet (forum member) and then Centralvalleywholesale on Ebay.
Not a fan of the swiss guy, everything he sells is overpriced IMO.

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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #16 on: August 23, 2014, 10:37:50 PM
I'll order a bunch from: http://www.schweizer-messer.eu/Victorinox_Ersatzteile_Pflegemittel as soon as I get my paycheck and one of my colleagues goes to Germany to receive them.
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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #17 on: October 16, 2014, 11:02:07 PM
Quote from: enki_ck on August 23, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
Use a hair dryer. ;)

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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #18 on: October 16, 2014, 11:25:12 PM
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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #19 on: October 17, 2014, 01:09:11 PM
If you decide you want nylon, SwissBianco usually has a good supply.

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Re: Is it hard to swap scales?
Reply #20 on: October 28, 2014, 02:10:10 PM
no.

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