Quote from: dks on September 29, 2015, 09:02:12 AMI said it before, but:-99.9% of the people who buy multiools buy them as gadgets that will never be used either to show to their friends once a year, impressing them with all its functions, or to give as present to a husband/father/wife etc, who will never use it.-Most people actually using pliers based multitools use cheap Chinese ones, maybe with car name on them, given free etc. - A lot more of those are sold everyday.-A LM, SOG, Gerber etc, especially with the price they have in most of the world (i.e. not the US) are just expensive gadgets/presents, rather than cheap gadgets/presents-I know a few people that actually do have them - none use them. A few are firemen, but just use a cheap Chinese multiool, since they do not want to damage their expensive LM (according to them).-Most people that actually need tools will have proper tools and no real need to compromise, with a multitool.-The only multittol you will see people use regularly will be a SAK, usually a classic or a thin 91/85mm model-The people that actually analyse and discuss and test multitools, like we do here, are a very small minority, which can not even make a dent in the multiool makers sales - We have been complaining about the SOG Powerduo since it was first made -guess what? it is still being made, exactly the same, with the same stellar quality, and is probably selling well...-The LM signal looks pretty, has a lot of functions and it will be bought by many people who will give it as an expensive present to family members who will never use it. -Most companies also make more serious multitools, for those that want to buy them and use them.That is sadly so true.However I still think these companies should listen carefully. A lot of video reviews posted by the "freaks" that are multi tool connesiurs reach far beyond the "choire". Also there are a lot of free engineering advice from really knowledgeable people to take advantage of.
I said it before, but:-99.9% of the people who buy multiools buy them as gadgets that will never be used either to show to their friends once a year, impressing them with all its functions, or to give as present to a husband/father/wife etc, who will never use it.-Most people actually using pliers based multitools use cheap Chinese ones, maybe with car name on them, given free etc. - A lot more of those are sold everyday.-A LM, SOG, Gerber etc, especially with the price they have in most of the world (i.e. not the US) are just expensive gadgets/presents, rather than cheap gadgets/presents-I know a few people that actually do have them - none use them. A few are firemen, but just use a cheap Chinese multiool, since they do not want to damage their expensive LM (according to them).-Most people that actually need tools will have proper tools and no real need to compromise, with a multitool.-The only multittol you will see people use regularly will be a SAK, usually a classic or a thin 91/85mm model-The people that actually analyse and discuss and test multitools, like we do here, are a very small minority, which can not even make a dent in the multiool makers sales - We have been complaining about the SOG Powerduo since it was first made -guess what? it is still being made, exactly the same, with the same stellar quality, and is probably selling well...-The LM signal looks pretty, has a lot of functions and it will be bought by many people who will give it as an expensive present to family members who will never use it. -Most companies also make more serious multitools, for those that want to buy them and use them.
I remembered just reading one of us commenting about the same thing in blades forum, that most tradesman do not use MT, but only tools they have for jobs. As for knife, cheap cutter is still the prefer choice, since the cost/effort to maintain it sharp is minimum(just swap out dull blades).
I can't speak for what other's experience is, but I would disagree that 99% of people don't use their multitools. I work in the mechanical trades and for the last 20+ years most people I see on a daily basis have a multitool on their hip. Very few of them are multi tool aficionados, they just carry one because they use it...a lot. I can't remember the last time seeing a tradesman using a Chinese knockoff. That pretty much never happens. Leatherman is the choice of 90% of the users. I can attest that the older guys that have bought replacement Leatherman's in the last several years, by and large gripe about the quality downturn. Younger guys by them because "Leatherman" is the standard and they don't know any better on what quality once was. Perhaps this is why Leatherman can now produce inferior crap, because they have the name recognition to get away with it.Sent from 9 miles from the face of the sun
Unfortunately I sent my back for a refund. My waves or a TTis with a firesteel, whistle and a rock will do much better since I always have that stuff with me when hiking around. I do like the replaceable wire cutters though.
I can't speak for what other's experience is, but I would disagree that 99% of people don't use their multitools. I work in the mechanical trades and for the last 20+ years most people I see on a daily basis have a multitool on their hip. Very few of them are multi tool aficionados, they just carry one because they use it...a lot. I can't remember the last time seeing a tradesman using a Chinese knockoff. That pretty much never happens. Leatherman is the choice of 90% of the users. I can attest that the older guys that have bought replacement Leatherman's in the last several years, by and large gripe about the quality downturn. Younger guys by them because "Leatherman" is the standard and they don't know any better on what quality once was. Perhaps this is why Leatherman can now produce inferior crap, because they have the name recognition to get away with it.
I am sending mine back tomorrow, I hope they will get the "Signal"..
True. It shouldn't have been released with these design issues, and the price is high for the tool. I don't have a Facebook account. How are they being received there?Sent from Tracy Island
Mine is enroute to LM, I want my money back.
Quote from: Kampfer on October 02, 2015, 05:07:15 AMI am sending mine back tomorrow, I hope they will get the "Signal".. So I have been lacking on reading this thread. Can I get a run down of the Signals shortcomings and why you are sending yours back?
Quote from: captain spaulding on October 03, 2015, 12:55:06 AMQuote from: Kampfer on October 02, 2015, 05:07:15 AMI am sending mine back tomorrow, I hope they will get the "Signal".. So I have been lacking on reading this thread. Can I get a run down of the Signals shortcomings and why you are sending yours back?Summary: it sucksSent from 9 miles from the face of the sun
Quote from: captain spaulding on October 03, 2015, 12:55:06 AMQuote from: Kampfer on October 02, 2015, 05:07:15 AMI am sending mine back tomorrow, I hope they will get the "Signal".. So I have been lacking on reading this thread. Can I get a run down of the Signals shortcomings and why you are sending yours back?Cap, did you read my review on Signal?
I was just browsing on LM homepage, and was thinking maybe one of us should comment/review Signal on their product page.
I told them what I think of it when I request for a RMA#
Quote from: comis on October 06, 2015, 10:54:18 AMI was just browsing on LM homepage, and was thinking maybe one of us should comment/review Signal on their product page.I post on the site earlier but they wont let me post
Quote from: Obi1shinobee on October 06, 2015, 09:33:00 PMQuote from: comis on October 06, 2015, 10:54:18 AMI was just browsing on LM homepage, and was thinking maybe one of us should comment/review Signal on their product page.I post on the site earlier but they wont let me post Err...why is that? Maybe they need some product number or registration to post?
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