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Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?

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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #510 on: January 21, 2015, 10:11:47 PM



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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #511 on: January 21, 2015, 10:14:42 PM



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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #512 on: January 21, 2015, 10:15:57 PM
I would like to see the tools out. Hope there are soon some more detailed photos soon.
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #513 on: January 21, 2015, 10:26:13 PM
Summer 2015.. Looks like ill have to wait till half way through hiking season to be able to carry this baby on my side  :ahhh
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #514 on: January 21, 2015, 11:04:52 PM
I would like to see the tools out. Hope there are soon some more detailed photos soon.

some higher resolution pics here:
http://leathermanlibrary.com/thumbnails.php?album=186


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #515 on: January 21, 2015, 11:14:31 PM
This is why there really needs to be multitool people at SHOT....  :twak: :twak: :twak:

So.... $120 and it comes with a 420 steel blade, which is something they thought about and did so that people could sharpen it easily in the field.  Ok, that makes sense, after all, who carries a diamond file into the woods?

Oh wait, it comes with that too?

Sounds like they had two different departments working on this one, and the two were never allowed to communicate.



It seems safe to assume this is the size of the MUT, which seems like an awful lot of tool to drag along and not have everything you might need.  I hope street price is well below the $120 MSRP, but then that shouldn't be a problem as the MUT and Charge TTi MSRP are both in that neighborhood and beyond.

I'm looking forward to giving it a shot though.  So far I'm not optimistic, but I have been wrong before.

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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #516 on: January 21, 2015, 11:47:38 PM
Quote from: Grant Lamontagne link

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This is why there really needs to be multitool people at SHOT....  :twak: :twak: :twak:

So.... $120 and it comes with a 420 steel blade, which is something they thought about and did so that people could sharpen it easily in the field.  Ok, that makes sense, after all, who carries a diamond file into the woods?

Oh wait, it comes with that too?

Sounds like they had two different departments working on this one, and the two were never allowed to communicate.

(Image removed from quote.)

It seems safe to assume this is the size of the MUT, which seems like an awful lot of tool to drag along and not have everything you might need.  I hope street price is well below the $120 MSRP, but then that shouldn't be a problem as the MUT and Charge TTi MSRP are both in that neighborhood and beyond.

I'm looking forward to giving it a shot though.  So far I'm not optimistic, but I have been wrong before.

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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #517 on: January 22, 2015, 12:30:33 AM
A lot of complaints here.  But:

1.  Leatherman does watch and listen to this forum.
2.  A survival tool with these features was requested by posters here for years.
3.  Your average Leatherman buyer isn't a collector.
4.  Leatherman, like any company, needs to sell to a mass audience and sell lots of tools.
5.  If Leatherman only catered to the micro needs of this forum they would be out of business. 
« Last Edit: January 22, 2015, 12:39:26 AM by genevabuck »


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #518 on: January 22, 2015, 12:45:47 AM
A lot of complaints here.  But:

1.  Leatherman does watch and listen to this forum.
2.  A survival tool with these features was requested by posters here for years.
3.  Your average Leatherman buyer isn't a collector.
4.  Leatherman, like any company, needs to sell to a mass audience and sell lots of tools.
5.  If Leatherman only catered to the micro needs of this forum they would be out of business.

100% agree on all points  :tu:


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #519 on: January 22, 2015, 12:52:06 AM
Do we have a confirmed weight yet?

Ideally weight with and without the sharpener and whistle/striker.  :D



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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #520 on: January 22, 2015, 12:52:55 AM
Does anyone else notice that in the first photo, the hammer around the 1/4 Hex hole seems to be broken?  It looks to me like its snapped across the hole and the broken part has been placed back next to the hammer for the photo. ???
Not broken, it is a "step".

Thanks. Yep. I saw that too.  I think it's stepped on one side and plain on the other, which could lead one to think it might've been broken in that photo.  :)

I do like it, both as a tool and a concept.  Except for one thing.  The tool count seems to be low for something with that price tag.  To echo others, why not carry your fave MT - Wave, Charge, Surge etc, and a decent whistle plus a fire steel?  Ok, the sharpener is cool.


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #521 on: January 22, 2015, 12:53:56 AM
It's worth noting that the mouthpiece of the whistle isn't where a lot of us have been assuming it is. :whistle:
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #522 on: January 22, 2015, 12:56:28 AM
I think I still want one though. :multi:


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #523 on: January 22, 2015, 12:59:01 AM
It's worth noting that the mouthpiece of the whistle isn't where a lot of us have been assuming it is. :whistle:

Where is it?


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #524 on: January 22, 2015, 12:59:32 AM
I think I still want one though. :multi:
Smurf yeah

I still want one too.
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #525 on: January 22, 2015, 01:03:52 AM
It's worth noting that the mouthpiece of the whistle isn't where a lot of us have been assuming it is. :whistle:

Where is it?

Have a look at the picture library and you can see the mouthpiece is at the 'fat' end of the plastic rather than the 'thin'.  Seems odd, but it does at least mean you'll be striking sparks away from the part where your lips go. :)

I would like to see the tools out. Hope there are soon some more detailed photos soon.

some higher resolution pics here:
http://leathermanlibrary.com/thumbnails.php?album=186
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #526 on: January 22, 2015, 01:10:53 AM
It's worth noting that the mouthpiece of the whistle isn't where a lot of us have been assuming it is. :whistle:

Where is it?

Have a look at the picture library and you can see the mouthpiece is at the 'fat' end of the plastic rather than the 'thin'.  Seems odd, but it does at least mean you'll be striking sparks away from the part where your lips go. :)
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I would like to see the tools out. Hope there are soon some more detailed photos soon.

some higher resolution pics here:
http://leathermanlibrary.com/thumbnails.php?album=186


Weird.  Leatherman usually does a better job at detailing these SHOT videos.  They need Juli back. 
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #527 on: January 22, 2015, 01:14:44 AM
OK, so that's going to reduce the issue a bit, but not eliminate it. I still don't like it at all, sorry.


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #528 on: January 22, 2015, 01:19:20 AM
I'm just thinking about this and I honestly can't think of a time I've ever needed to blow an emergency whistle, and I've been enjoying the great outdoors for more than 25 years.
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #529 on: January 22, 2015, 01:22:56 AM
.... but that's a good thing isn't it ...  :P


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #530 on: January 22, 2015, 01:24:39 AM
Whistle is more like a fell off the trail and broke my leg please find me sort of thing right?


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #531 on: January 22, 2015, 01:36:04 AM
Whistle is more like a fell off the trail and broke my leg please find me sort of thing right?

Yep  :tu: so if you ever do need one, you might be using it for hours or even days depending on where you are and who's around


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #532 on: January 22, 2015, 02:00:24 AM
.... but that's a good thing isn't it ...  :P
We are glad you never needed one.:tu:
If it it is light like feather, might be a good idea to have around just in case.
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #533 on: January 22, 2015, 03:21:50 AM
 File thoughts

It looks small. Hard to hold. Hard to use maybe.

I wonder how it fits the combo edge.

It looks kinds course.





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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #535 on: January 22, 2015, 05:04:59 AM
I am so glad this tool came out..... It has confirmed my decision in switching to Victorinox........ Leatherman is starting to resemble another once well respected product manufacturer ....."BlackBerry"


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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #536 on: January 22, 2015, 05:27:38 AM
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #537 on: January 22, 2015, 05:39:48 AM
The more I see it the more I dislike it. I assume for some it might be great, but for 80% of the market they could care less about the cheap looking whistle, striker, and file for sharpening. Those things alone ruin the tool for me completely and I would personally never buy one. Just my opinion though.
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #538 on: January 22, 2015, 06:23:06 AM
The more I see it the more I dislike it. I assume for some it might be great, but for 80% of the market they could care less about the cheap looking whistle, striker, and file for sharpening. Those things alone ruin the tool for me completely and I would personally never buy one. Just my opinion though.

+1  :tu:
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Re: Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?
Reply #539 on: January 22, 2015, 06:38:39 AM


I'm not sold on the removable tools . There not very useful to me I normally have them on me.  :think: but if I think of them as back ups they should work for me if I ever need them.




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