Leatherman Signal - is LM making a survival multi?

[Higgins617]

I am pretty sure I won't able to survive in in wildness with this MT and without a full case of MRE.
City boy has no idea where to find food.

Check inside the nearest animal - filled with steaks, chops, burgers, bacon, and wings
Tie Signal to the end of long stick with knife deployed and poke until animal stops moving, lol

Even I have a rifle I still don't know how to track animals down.
based on the skill I already have, hunting human is easier.

Meat's pretty bland though. Take some barbeque sauce

[Kampfer]

I am pretty sure I won't able to survive in in wildness with this MT and without a full case of MRE.
City boy has no idea where to find food.

Check inside the nearest animal - filled with steaks, chops, burgers, bacon, and wings
Tie Signal to the end of long stick with knife deployed and poke until animal stops moving, lol

Even I have a rifle I still don't know how to track animals down.
based on the skill I already have, hunting human is easier.

Meat's pretty bland though. Take some barbeque sauce

  hell no! I just want their MRE.

[Higgins617]

I am pretty sure I won't able to survive in in wildness with this MT and without a full case of MRE.
City boy has no idea where to find food.

Check inside the nearest animal - filled with steaks, chops, burgers, bacon, and wings
Tie Signal to the end of long stick with knife deployed and poke until animal stops moving, lol

Even I have a rifle I still don't know how to track animals down.
based on the skill I already have, hunting human is easier.

Meat's pretty bland though. Take some barbeque sauce

  hell no! I just want their MRE.

I don't know Kam, I've heard some things about you

[zoidberg]

I am pretty sure I won't able to survive in in wildness with this MT and without a full case of MRE.
City boy has no idea where to find food.

Check inside the nearest animal - filled with steaks, chops, burgers, bacon, and wings
Tie Signal to the end of long stick with knife deployed and poke until animal stops moving, lol

Even I have a rifle I still don't know how to track animals down.
based on the skill I already have, hunting human is easier.

Meat's pretty bland though. Take some barbeque sauce

  hell no! I just want their MRE.

I don't know Kam, I've heard some things about you

 

[Kampfer]

 

[Higgins617]

 

[Lichtbote]

Gotta be honest, I see this as a $30 dollar tool. 

Sorry, but that´s ridicuolous.

[BASguy]

Gotta be honest, I see this as a $30 dollar tool. 

Sorry, but that´s ridicuolous.

It's ridiculous that you'd consider it ridiculous.


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[ducttapetech]

The blade and pliers head alone puts it around $30. A $120 dollar tool, no. More around $80, yeah.

Nate

[hellsing]

The blade and pliers head alone puts it around $30. A $120 dollar tool, no. More around $80, yeah.

Nate

Something like that. Basically its a wave with less tool but new supply chain. I dunno how much is the wave in USA, but the signal shouldn't be more expensive.

[ducttapetech]

Price of the Wave depends where you are at. I have seen them for $50 to $70.  Usually around the $65 to $70 mark in the stores around here. Some store here charge crazy amount s for something and others more reasonable. One store was selling them for $100. They didn't sell many.

Nate

[enki_ck]

The blade and pliers head alone puts it around $30. A $120 dollar tool, no. More around $80, yeah.

Nate

As I said before I'm guessing the $75 to $80 will prbably be the actual street/eBay price. 65-70% of the $120 MSRP.

[BASguy]

The Tractor Supply near me recently had Wave's for $40.  Not sure if they still do...?  In any case, if the Wave is a $40-50 tool..... I stand by my statement that this is a $30 range tool.  Just don't see it as a better tool than Rebar.  Different yes, but at the huge premium suggested..... Well, not to me anyway. 

Perhaps a better way to phrase it is ......"it's a $30 tool to me"

[Higgins617]

The Tractor Supply near me recently had Wave's for $40.  Not sure if they still do...?  In any case, if the Wave is a $40-50 tool..... I stand by my statement that this is a $30 range tool.  Just don't see it as a better tool than Rebar.  Different yes, but at the huge premium suggested..... Well, not to me anyway. 

Perhaps a better way to phrase it is ......"it's a $30 tool to me"

30 to you is a better way to get your point across, but the Wave isn't really a 40-50 dollar tool, that's just an outstanding deal for an 80ish dollar tool.

[Kampfer]

The Tractor Supply near me recently had Wave's for $40.  Not sure if they still do...?  In any case, if the Wave is a $40-50 tool..... I stand by my statement that this is a $30 range tool.  Just don't see it as a better tool than Rebar.  Different yes, but at the huge premium suggested..... Well, not to me anyway. 

Perhaps a better way to phrase it is ......"it's a $30 tool to me"

30 to you is a better way to get your point across, but the Wave isn't really a 40-50 dollar tool, that's just an outstanding deal for an 80ish dollar tool.

+1

[Lichtbote]

Additional - the US prices for Leathermans are already a bargain compared to the biggest part of the world.

You will not find a Wave here for under 80-90€, generally more in the 100-120€ range.

I ordered a Wingman last year, paid 35€, had a look on it - and sent it back immediatly as it wasnt worth that money for me. A 30$ Signal would be in the slighly over 20€ range, cheaper than a Wingman.

[JNieporte]

So, will there be lots of people returning the Signal to Leatherman for warranty when they wear out the ferro rod? 

[sawman]

I know I won't be paying $120 for one if I get one at all. It has the Rebar pliers and an awl though so that's got to add value. I'd like to see this tool selling around $60 actually.

[Breezy12]

So, will there be lots of people returning the Signal to Leatherman for warranty when they wear out the ferro rod? 

my guess is that they'll sell replacement ferro rods separately, similar to some of the other parts (replacement bits, replacement wire cutters, etc.)

[babola]

So, will there be lots of people returning the Signal to Leatherman for warranty when they wear out the ferro rod? 

my guess is that they'll sell replacement ferro rods separately, similar to some of the other parts (replacement bits, replacement wire cutters, etc.)

Yup, the lady at the SHOT Leatherman stand said the same in the Signal video posted on youtube.

[Aloha]

Making fire is an important aspect of survival.  I hope they take a closer look at that removable part that holds the fero rod.  It really looks there could be a better thought out design of it.  I like the idea of a removable fero rod like the mut's removable punch.  The file could have better designed as I think the way it rides on the tool there are problems in the future with it coming off.  How about it riding in the frame like the mut bit???

The tool is a neat concept but IMO lacks complete thought and execution.  The MUT platform would have been a great starting point IMO.

[Obi1shinobee]

Wave > Signal

[BASguy]

The Tractor Supply near me recently had Wave's for $40.  Not sure if they still do...?  In any case, if the Wave is a $40-50 tool..... I stand by my statement that this is a $30 range tool.  Just don't see it as a better tool than Rebar.  Different yes, but at the huge premium suggested..... Well, not to me anyway. 

Perhaps a better way to phrase it is ......"it's a $30 tool to me"

30 to you is a better way to get your point across, but the Wave isn't really a 40-50 dollar tool, that's just an outstanding deal for an 80ish dollar tool.

$80 is a bit on the high side as you can score NIB on the bay all the time in the $65 range..... But at that, the point is that the Signal is coming in at a price point substantially greater than the wave...paying a 40% premium over a Wave just doesn't add up.   
Now keep in mind, I use my tools for work so I'm not exactly dialed into the concept of a survival/outdoor tool.     I'm thinking VIc Hercules when I consider that market..... 


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[Obi1shinobee]

40% more but only have one knife and no scissors..  WAVE ALL THE WAY.. just carry your firesteel and whistle still cheaper

[Obi1shinobee]

only thing i want from LM signal is diamond sharpener .. so i can put on my wave just like signal .. hahhaha

[Kampfer]

To survive in the wildness, I want a case of MRE hidden inside one of its handles, and a case of water in the other.
I am willing give up my beloved can opener for them.

[Obi1shinobee]

 

[Breezy12]

The Tractor Supply near me recently had Wave's for $40.  Not sure if they still do...?  In any case, if the Wave is a $40-50 tool..... I stand by my statement that this is a $30 range tool.  Just don't see it as a better tool than Rebar.  Different yes, but at the huge premium suggested..... Well, not to me anyway. 

Perhaps a better way to phrase it is ......"it's a $30 tool to me"

30 to you is a better way to get your point across, but the Wave isn't really a 40-50 dollar tool, that's just an outstanding deal for an 80ish dollar tool.

$80 is a bit on the high side as you can score NIB on the bay all the time in the $65 range..... But at that, the point is that the Signal is coming in at a price point substantially greater than the wave...paying a 40% premium over a Wave just doesn't add up.   
Now keep in mind, I use my tools for work so I'm not exactly dialed into the concept of a survival/outdoor tool.     I'm thinking VIc Hercules when I consider that market..... 

another thing to consider is the age of the tool. the Wave has been out for awhile now, so yes, it's fairly easy to score good deals on amazon or ebay or whatever. but when it was first released, there's no way anyone scored a NIB Wave for $65. if a tool is popular when it is first released, it will have no problem selling at or near full MSRP. (for example, I paid full MSRP for my original Skeletool CX when it was first released.)

over time, the prices drop, and as plenty have pointed out, there are plenty of good deals to be found on Waves, Surges, Skeletools, Rebars, etc. I'm sure the price of the Signal will drop over time as well.

[Obi1shinobee]

  LM Signal can drop $50 right now and i still not buy it..

[Lichtbote]

40% more but only have one knife and no scissors..  WAVE ALL THE WAY.. just carry your firesteel and whistle still cheaper

The mini-scissor is not really a reason to buy a wave.