Leatherman Leap

[Kampfer]

Late Boy Scout's boys talk about Leap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox6Im0gABPc&list=UUZjvj5MN3BMxPFfdEKIrvxQ

[Kampfer]

Statement from Leatherman regarding the recent Recall on this tool:

The issue with the Leap was only with the optional knife blade, not the full tool. We have an internal standard about how many pounds of pressure it should take before the knife blade (or any implement) slips past the liner lock. As we began production of the tool, we found that the Leap was not quite meeting this internal standard despite earlier testing. Obviously this would always be unacceptable, but because it’s a tool intended for younger users, it was especially so and we immediately enacted a voluntary recall with the CPSC. Luckily, not many had even reached retailer shelves by this point, and very few made it to consumers. Our engineers figured out the problem quickly, got it fixed so it was well above our standard, and got their solution approved by the CPSC. Again, the issue was only with the optional knife blade, so if you were just using the tool without the blade installed, they are completely safe.

The only affected products were sold during late August/early September. All affected product was pulled from shelves in September, so consumers should not be concerned that they might be buying the old version. Right now the new versions are just being stocked to shelves at places like Cabela’s, REI, and others. If folks are concerned about telling the difference, the old version has four bumps on the ridge of the knife blade, and the new version has three.

[Lynn LeFey]

Interesting. It also means the uber collectors will be able to tell if it was pre-recall. Which, I' guessing, will make those some of the most rare leatherman tools, now.

[babola]

Interesting. It also means the uber collectors will be able to tell if it was pre-recall. Which, I' guessing, will make those some of the most rare leatherman tools, now.

Yeah, you're possibly right.

Although from the collector's point of view in recent years for me personally it will be hard to beat the original first production series Rebar from 2012 with an XL file
There's reportedly only few thousands of those ever made before it received the 'snip'.

[captain spaulding]

Interesting. It also means the uber collectors will be able to tell if it was pre-recall. Which, I' guessing, will make those some of the most rare leatherman tools, now.

Yeah, you're possibly right.

Although from the collector's point of view in recent years for me personally it will be hard to beat the original first production series Rebar from 2012 with an XL file
There's reportedly only few thousands of those ever made before it received the 'snip'.

Oh really.  Good thing I put away my Rebar with the long file for safe keeping.  I did not know the production was so low on those. Why did they snip those again?

[babola]

Interesting. It also means the uber collectors will be able to tell if it was pre-recall. Which, I' guessing, will make those some of the most rare leatherman tools, now.

Yeah, you're possibly right.

Although from the collector's point of view in recent years for me personally it will be hard to beat the original first production series Rebar from 2012 with an XL file
There's reportedly only few thousands of those ever made before it received the 'snip'.

Oh really.  Good thing I put away my Rebar with the long file for safe keeping.  I did not know the production was so low on those. Why did they snip those again?

Not sure, they never said why.   

I have both versions and the difference is quite noticeable. I tried to figure out on my own why would have they done this but couldn't come to any logical explanation.
The original long file fits just nice and there are no obstructions (at least not the ones I could find), the 'new' file seems quite short for the handle cavity available.

[captain spaulding]

Interesting. It also means the uber collectors will be able to tell if it was pre-recall. Which, I' guessing, will make those some of the most rare leatherman tools, now.

Yeah, you're possibly right.

Although from the collector's point of view in recent years for me personally it will be hard to beat the original first production series Rebar from 2012 with an XL file
There's reportedly only few thousands of those ever made before it received the 'snip'.

Oh really.  Good thing I put away my Rebar with the long file for safe keeping.  I did not know the production was so low on those. Why did they snip those again?

Not sure, they never said why.   

I have both versions and the difference is quite noticeable. I tried to figure out on my own why would have they done this but couldn't come to any logical explanation.
The original long file fits just nice and there are no obstructions (at least not the ones I could find), the 'new' file seems quite short for the handle cavity available.

I have both and agree that I cannot figure out why they would do this. 

[Syph007]

Interesting. It also means the uber collectors will be able to tell if it was pre-recall. Which, I' guessing, will make those some of the most rare leatherman tools, now.

Yeah, you're possibly right.

Although from the collector's point of view in recent years for me personally it will be hard to beat the original first production series Rebar from 2012 with an XL file
There's reportedly only few thousands of those ever made before it received the 'snip'.

Oh really.  Good thing I put away my Rebar with the long file for safe keeping.  I did not know the production was so low on those. Why did they snip those again?

Not sure, they never said why.   

I have both versions and the difference is quite noticeable. I tried to figure out on my own why would have they done this but couldn't come to any logical explanation.
The original long file fits just nice and there are no obstructions (at least not the ones I could find), the 'new' file seems quite short for the handle cavity available.

I have both and agree that I cannot figure out why they would do this. 

There was an official response in an older thread here.

http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,44172.msg716763.html#msg716763

Of course, Duncan.  It's kind of a long explanation, so bear with me.  The original Rebar design (and the image you see on our website) had the angled file tip.  Yours is a newer version.

When our machines pick up a punched out steel file piece, it's perfectly flat.  The machine holds the file on both ends and then scores the file lines.  After that, the end tip is cut off, so that the file scores go all the way to the end.

We modified the Rebar just slightly after our first couple of runs with the tool because we were finding that our machines weren't cutting off that tip properly every time, and we were having to scrap a percentage of our files. After speaking with users, it became clear that the angled tip of the file wasn't an important feature, so we decided to continue what has been successful for us in the past (for example, on our Super Tool and PST tools) and just cut the file off square.

We don't do this on some of our tools, such as our Wave, because the file tip needs to have a nail nick in there and is already kind of a strange shape. 

[captain spaulding]

Now I remember reading that thread. 

[babola]

Thanks for the info, Syph.

I like my Rebar with the original longer file even more now

That "upgraded" stubby file just doesn't look right, IMO 

 

[captain spaulding]

Thanks for the info, Syph.

I like my Rebar with the original longer file even more now

That "upgraded" stubby file just doesn't look right, IMO 

Agreed.

[eamo]

well, it's back up on the leatherman site -
http://www.leatherman.com/358.html#start=23
and *seems* to be available on knifecenter.com and cabelas . . . . whoo hooo

[enki_ck]

Seems they rounded up the scissors too.

[Toolslinger]

Anybody planning on getting one and has an older one to compare to?

I'd be curious to see what improvements they made or whether they just tweaked the lock face.

[Cupboard]

Interesting. It also means the uber collectors will be able to tell if it was pre-recall. Which, I' guessing, will make those some of the most rare leatherman tools, now.

Yeah, you're possibly right.

Although from the collector's point of view in recent years for me personally it will be hard to beat the original first production series Rebar from 2012 with an XL file
There's reportedly only few thousands of those ever made before it received the 'snip'.

It's possibly a bad things that my one like that is a bit of a beater and mod fodder then!

[zoidberg]

Interesting. It also means the uber collectors will be able to tell if it was pre-recall. Which, I' guessing, will make those some of the most rare leatherman tools, now.

Yeah, you're possibly right.

Although from the collector's point of view in recent years for me personally it will be hard to beat the original first production series Rebar from 2012 with an XL file
There's reportedly only few thousands of those ever made before it received the 'snip'.

It's possibly a bad things that my one like that is a bit of a beater and mod fodder then!

I've hacked up quite a few and still haven't seen a short one. 

[Chako]

Oh how did I miss this little bit of news? Looks like I am now on the hunt for short files on Rebars. 

I quickly checked my 3, and they are all of the long file version. I have a  Stainless, a BO, and a Texas Toolcrafter Gold.

[AdmSlc]

Oh how did I miss this little bit of news? Looks like I am now on the hunt for short files on Rebars. 

I quickly checked my 3, and they are all of the long file version. I have a  Stainless, a BO, and a Texas Toolcrafter Gold.

I'm guessing you're in the market for a few more leaps?


-AdmSlc

[Chako]

Looks that way.

[captain spaulding]

Just some quick info on the old (recalled) vs new Leaps. The old version has four bumps on the ridge of the knife blade, and the new version has three.

[zoidberg]

Just some quick info on the old (recalled) vs new Leaps. The old version has four bumps on the ridge of the knife blade, and the new version has three.

Where have I heard that? 

Statement from Leatherman regarding the recent Recall on this tool:

The issue with the Leap was only with the optional knife blade, not the full tool. We have an internal standard about how many pounds of pressure it should take before the knife blade (or any implement) slips past the liner lock. As we began production of the tool, we found that the Leap was not quite meeting this internal standard despite earlier testing. Obviously this would always be unacceptable, but because it’s a tool intended for younger users, it was especially so and we immediately enacted a voluntary recall with the CPSC. Luckily, not many had even reached retailer shelves by this point, and very few made it to consumers. Our engineers figured out the problem quickly, got it fixed so it was well above our standard, and got their solution approved by the CPSC. Again, the issue was only with the optional knife blade, so if you were just using the tool without the blade installed, they are completely safe.

The only affected products were sold during late August/early September. All affected product was pulled from shelves in September, so consumers should not be concerned that they might be buying the old version. Right now the new versions are just being stocked to shelves at places like Cabela’s, REI, and others. If folks are concerned about telling the difference, the old version has four bumps on the ridge of the knife blade, and the new version has three.

[captain spaulding]

I guess your memory is better than mine. 

[zoidberg]

I guess your memory is better than mine. 

I'm glad things get reposted as often I've missed them the first time around.

As for my rude post above - you can slap me now... 

[captain spaulding]

I guess your memory is better than mine. 

I'm glad things get reposted as often I've missed them the first time around.

As for my rude post above - you can slap me now... 

Nah its ok. Ill let you slide this time. 

[zoidberg]

I guess your memory is better than mine. 

I'm glad things get reposted as often I've missed them the first time around.

As for my rude post above - you can slap me now... 

Nah its ok. Ill let you slide this time. 

Use it or lose it. No trading in multiple slaps for a twak later. 

Sent from the land of the long white cloud.

[eamo]

According to Leatherman the Leap is for sale now - any of the online retailers i've checked don't seem to have it in immediate stock - ie, shipping 4 to 7 days etc. Has anyone actually seen one for sale since they re-released it ?

[eamo]

ok, ordered one doubt we'll get it before Christmas but thats ok.
Anyone any ideas on a suitable sheath for it ?

[enki_ck]

ok, ordered one doubt we'll get it before Christmas but thats ok.
Anyone any ideas on a suitable sheath for it ?

The Juice one should work. They are about the same size.

[eamo]

interesting, thank you for that I'll run it by the boss and see if she likes it . . .

[kirk13]

How bout a brown paper bag with two eye holes cut in it?

Sorry,that was a knee jerk reaction