Which 58?

[Aloha]

I eliminated the manager only due to the fact that I'm super picky about my pen.

As for the midnite makes... just be sure if you get one, you get a new one with a white LED, not the old red LED. I have a Swisslite with the red LED, and it's next to useless.

Is there a Rambler with a light?

Would love to see the light before I pick one up but they not to expensive.

Is the light model heavy thicker?

Nope its the Manager.  I'd imagine it is a bit thicker and heavier. 

[HarleyXJGuy]

Nah not interested in the pen model.

So back to the Rambler.

[Lynn LeFey]

No big loss, IMO. If you don't want the pen, I think you're also better off with a separate light, even if it's just a fauxton. I'll see if i can get a beam shot of the red LED, if you'd like

[HarleyXJGuy]

No big loss, IMO. If you don't want the pen, I think you're also better off with a separate light, even if it's just a fauxton. I'll see if i can get a beam shot of the red LED, if you'd like

Thanks but no need. Toothpick for the win over stupid pen.

Got my Olight anyhow.

[ducttapetech]

I will say.....none of them. Never did get along with them. I like the Wenger one a little better. They are a tad bigger. And the way my keys are set up, it does not really allow being able to add a small SAK.

[kirk13]

 Manager or Rambler. Contentious statement warning: Could be simply the best tool load on any SAK . Philips combo tool is just so versitile and punches way over its weight. Scissors are so good. Pen is far better than its given credit for. It carries no surplus tools,wants for nothing. Try saying that for any other SAK 

[HarleyXJGuy]

And the way my keys are set up, it does not really allow being able to add a small SAK.

No keyring?

[HarleyXJGuy]

Try saying that for any other SAK 

Ok I will give it a go.

Compact with a added phillips instead of the CS. BAM that just happened.

I do feel what you are putting down though Kirky.

[shark_za]

The Compact does miss some driver capability, hence my new love the Skelly is working out.

Harley, the corkscrew is a reminder to enjoy life, wine is for living and chicks dig it.

[HarleyXJGuy]

The Compact does miss some driver capability, hence my new love the Skelly is working out.

Skelly has bits I will give you that. As far as SAKs go the no CS Compact has all the driver bases covered to some extent. Inline phillips would be nice I grant you.

Harley, the corkscrew is a reminder to enjoy life, wine is for living and chicks dig it.

My wife would rather I have nothing chicks dig and I like the cheap twist top wine.

[toddwalla]

The Compact does miss some driver capability, hence my new love the Skelly is working out.

Harley, the corkscrew is a reminder to enjoy life, wine is for living and chicks dig it.

+1....but while I'm here why not consider a classic? Its name says it all. I recently replaced a rally with a classic and I find myself using the scissors more than the mini phillips. However, the Rally is never too far away and came in handy when I upgraded my MacBook recently. Ok, so go with the rambler...it has it all. Shoot, I guess I have to get one now too...

[Fattsgalore]

Roommate put one on her work id badge and it hasn't come off.  She said it get used several times a day. 

For everyday light task, office work, etc. the M. Manager is wonderful. For sometime a M. Manger was my only knife/tool and it served me well.

@HarleyXJGuy. All you have to do is swap scales. Grab a used Rambler Manager M. Manager whatever and just swap around the scales. You can find used SAKs all over EBAY. If you like the idea of the LED then get one with the white LED (red ones suck) then swap out the pen with a standard scale. Easy and you get exactly what you want.

[HarleyXJGuy]

The Compact does miss some driver capability, hence my new love the Skelly is working out.

Harley, the corkscrew is a reminder to enjoy life, wine is for living and chicks dig it.

+1....but while I'm here why not consider a classic? Its name says it all. I recently replaced a rally with a classic and I find myself using the scissors more than the mini phillips. However, the Rally is never too far away and came in handy when I upgraded my MacBook recently. Ok, so go with the rambler...it has it all. Shoot, I guess I have to get one now too...

So you answered your own question. 

[HarleyXJGuy]

@HarleyXJGuy. All you have to do is swap scales. Grab a used Rambler Manager M. Manager whatever and just swap around the scales. You can find used SAKs all over EBAY. If you like the idea of the LED then get one with the white LED (red ones suck) then swap out the pen with a standard scale. Easy and you get exactly what you want.

Huh? Are you saying the light is in the scales? Or? 

[Grass]

Another tick for the Rambler here. It's got the necessary bits in a shockingly small SAK.

[Though this size is too small for my hands; as a result my Rally is the only SAK I've cut myself with... don't mess with the mini blade...! :-/ ]

[Weasel]

Rambler for me , had loads of classics and a mini champ but I've given them to family and friends. Rambler is perfect in my eyes

[SAK Guy]

I'll have to dig out my 58's and look to see what I have.

[Lynn LeFey]

@HarleyXJGuy. All you have to do is swap scales. Grab a used Rambler Manager M. Manager whatever and just swap around the scales. You can find used SAKs all over EBAY. If you like the idea of the LED then get one with the white LED (red ones suck) then swap out the pen with a standard scale. Easy and you get exactly what you want.

Huh? Are you saying the light is in the scales? Or? 

Yes. The light is built into the scale of the 58mm line. The victorinox logo is the activation button. I've considered doing a scale swap, since they don't do one T&T slot and the light on any tool but the swisslight. I find a toothpick really useful, and the pen really... not. swapping a single scale would solve this problem, but would also require buying two tools. And for that cost, I'd rather just carry a 50 cent fauxton flashlight, and keep the scale with tweezers in it.

I hope this pic illustrates it clearly.

[kirk13]

Try saying that for any other SAK 

Ok I will give it a go.

Compact with a added phillips instead of the CS. BAM that just happened.

I do feel what you are putting down though Kirky.

Funny thing is Harley,I've done that mod your describing(Duke of Blamington, though to me it's a DofE with a spear point blade),but the nail file on the 58s knocks spots off that on the hook.

I have a dark and horrible thought that my work EDC could be striped down to a Manager and an LM Mini

[HarleyXJGuy]

but the nail file on the 58s knocks spots off that on the hook.

Would love to see this written in English so we could all understand it.

I have a dark and horrible thought that my work EDC could be striped down to a Manager and an LM Mini

See now you are just talking crazy. Thats the kind of bullsmurf I expect to hear from Zoid or Monrogue.

Shame, you can do better.

[HarleyXJGuy]

@HarleyXJGuy. All you have to do is swap scales. Grab a used Rambler Manager M. Manager whatever and just swap around the scales. You can find used SAKs all over EBAY. If you like the idea of the LED then get one with the white LED (red ones suck) then swap out the pen with a standard scale. Easy and you get exactly what you want.

Huh? Are you saying the light is in the scales? Or? 

Yes. The light is built into the scale of the 58mm line. The victorinox logo is the activation button. I've considered doing a scale swap, since they don't do one T&T slot and the light on any tool but the swisslight. I find a toothpick really useful, and the pen really... not. swapping a single scale would solve this problem, but would also require buying two tools. And for that cost, I'd rather just carry a 50 cent fauxton flashlight, and keep the scale with tweezers in it.

I hope this pic illustrates it clearly.
(Image removed from quote.)

So the lite scale is just a little thicker?

Pretty sure I will not buy a lite SAK just to build another one but it is nice to know in case I find one cheap someday.

Just stick with my way more better Olight I3.

[Lynn LeFey]

So the lite scale is just a little thicker?

It's about twice as thick as the standard scale. I don't know if you consider that 'just a little thicker'.

Just stick with my way more better Olight I3.

And that's about how I feel about it too. The light is a neat idea, and maybe useful when all else fails, but I think a dedicated light is a better way to go personally.

That means... like I said... get a Rambler.

[HarleyXJGuy]

It's about twice as thick as the standard scale. I don't know if you consider that 'just a little thicker'.

Lame and umm no thanks.

And that's about how I feel about it too. The light is a neat idea, and maybe useful when all else fails, but I think a dedicated light is a better way to go personally.

That means... like I said... get a Rambler.

Feels like talking to my wife sometimes with Lynn. Spend three hours getting to the point she made at the start of the conversation. 

[Syph007]

Here you go. 



http://victorinox.metodi.me/monster58.php

[HarleyXJGuy]

Here you go. 

Momma said if you can't say something nice........

The extra wharnie blade is nice. 

[SAK Guy]

Looked through my 58's....a bunch of Classics, a 3M logo Bijou SD and these:

Signature II, Signature Lite and a Rambler.

[HarleyXJGuy]

Looked through my 58's....a bunch of Classics, a 3M logo Bijou SD and these:

Signature II, Signature Lite and a Rambler.

Do not think I have ever heard you talk about carrying a 58.

Just collectors?

[sawman]

I carry a Rambler

[HarleyXJGuy]

I carry a Rambler

And I am pretty sure your avatar is the exact watch I wear at work.

[sawman]

It's served me well the last couple years