Why no love for the Vic Rally?

Humppa · **on:** January 07, 2015, 01:19:10 PM

Hi guys & gals!

I´ve just been thinking about my keychain setup. I´ve had many many different 58mm SAKs or on comparible sizes on them. Just until yesterday a VIC Minichamp was there. But it just lost its place on the Vic Rally http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Rally . I´ve pocket carried this one sometimes when I was just around the house or next to a traditional slippie.

I´m just wondering as the toolset is quite useful and plenty of tools on this little bugger, and rarely people seem to carry or even appreciated it. Is there anything I don´t see? Or is it just an underrated pattern by Vic?

I really like it and I would like to hear your opinions on that one.

dks · **Reply #1 on:** January 07, 2015, 01:39:51 PM

For a bit of extra thickness you can get scissors, in the rambler/manager, which is popular.

Also the classic, with the scissors, dominates the thin end of the market, as people seem to like having scissors more than the bottle opener and screwdriver.

willc · **Reply #2 on:** January 07, 2015, 03:30:14 PM

If I ever downsized from my keychain Minichamp I would go with a Rally.
The caplifter gets more use than scissors on a normal day.
I am pretty sure you don't see many Rally's cause Vic doesn't market them as heavily as the Classic.

AimlessWanderer · **Reply #3 on:** January 07, 2015, 03:43:09 PM

Quote from: dks on January 07, 2015, 01:39:51 PM

For a bit of extra thickness you can get scissors, in the rambler/manager, which is popular.

Also the classic, with the scissors, dominates the thin end of the market, as people seem to like having scissors more than the bottle opener and screwdriver.

The Rally looks great ... it's just missing the scissors

Rambler/Manager rules supreme

Joe58 · **Reply #4 on:** January 07, 2015, 03:59:07 PM

Speaking for myself, I like the extra blade, and the scissors that the Minichamp brings.

I haven't found the extra layer to be an issue. I don't carry it on my keyring however. I have it clipped onto a single AAA light and rides in my front left pocket.

Humppa · **Reply #5 on:** January 07, 2015, 04:24:56 PM

Thanks for the disussion so far.

I like the Rally because I don´t need scissors too much on a SAK of this size.

I have had the Manager/Rambler but didn´t carry it too much. But I didn´t get warm on it. I think I gonna give it another try, but not for keyring carry; just a pocket carry tool.

On the Classic I really miss the bottleopener, philipshead screwdriver.

Etherealicer · **Reply #6 on:** January 07, 2015, 04:34:05 PM

I hardly ever use scissors, thats why I carry a 91mm without (CT 29). But as a result, I like having scissors on my 58, just in case and thats why its Rambler (Midnight Manager to be precise) for me.

Steinar · **Reply #7 on:** January 08, 2015, 12:08:05 AM

I really like the toolset of the Rally, I just wish the key ring was at the other end. As it is now, it is more impractical when using the blade. I think only the Rambler derivatives, the Escort and the MiniChamp has the key right at the end I prefer, opposite the direction of the unfolded blade.

toddwalla · **Reply #8 on:** January 08, 2015, 09:41:50 AM

Aside from a short stint with an a lox classic, the rally has been my got to keychain tool for going on three years now. sure, I've been eyeing a rambler, but to be honest i don't use the scissors all that often. the small slim blade on the rally does most of my precise cutting jobs with ease.

Here it is alongside some some recent leatherwork:

Here it is with an older keychain setup:

The small philips and toothpick are what keeps it close at hand.

Caranthanus · **Reply #9 on:** January 09, 2015, 01:33:55 AM

For sure exist a love for Rally

but one have to be prepared, so MiniChamp all the way

sawman · **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2015, 01:38:15 AM

Another vote for scissors. They're the most used implement on my Rambler.

TazzieRob · **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2015, 03:11:50 AM

I vote Rogue. Rally/Rambler Phillips combo tool is good, but I don't like the SD tip on the nail file. Normal nail file with flat tip combo tool will handle most small Phillips and flat screws. Flat tip combo tool is beefier and can be used for #2 Phillips anyway. Just my 2 cents worth

HarleyXJGuy · **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2015, 08:10:17 AM

Rally is fine but I look to my 58mm to have scissors so I can carry Pioneers and Spartan 91mm's if I feel the desire.

I also can't imagine one more 58mm layer is that noticable.

Higgins617 · **Reply #13 on:** January 09, 2015, 08:18:09 AM

Quote from: TazzieRob on January 09, 2015, 03:11:50 AM

I vote Rogue. Rally/Rambler Phillips combo tool is good, but I don't like the SD tip on the nail file. Normal nail file with flat tip combo tool will handle most small Phillips and flat screws. Flat tip combo tool is beefier and can be used for #2 Phillips anyway. Just my 2 cents worth

Damn, I keep forgetting Rogue is a real tool. Looks like Monrogue is headed back to the drawing board.

HarleyXJGuy · **Reply #14 on:** January 09, 2015, 10:08:09 AM

Quote from: Higgins617 on January 09, 2015, 08:18:09 AM

Quote from: TazzieRob on January 09, 2015, 03:11:50 AM
I vote Rogue. Rally/Rambler Phillips combo tool is good, but I don't like the SD tip on the nail file. Normal nail file with flat tip combo tool will handle most small Phillips and flat screws. Flat tip combo tool is beefier and can be used for #2 Phillips anyway. Just my 2 cents worth

Damn, I keep forgetting Rogue is a real tool. Looks like Monrogue is headed back to the drawing board.

If it was not discontinued it would have been in the running for my keychain SAK for sure. Except that the name of the sAK reminds me of Monrogue and that makes me

Grass · **Reply #15 on:** January 09, 2015, 12:16:20 PM

I have a rally and quite like it - it's between the Rally and the Rambler for favourite at this size, with the Rambler slightly having the edge as the extra width for the scissors is minimal. I do not have too many of this size, though, as they a bit small for my hands!

Corwyn · **Reply #16 on:** January 09, 2015, 12:25:53 PM

Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on January 09, 2015, 10:08:09 AM

Quote from: Higgins617 on January 09, 2015, 08:18:09 AM
Quote from: TazzieRob on January 09, 2015, 03:11:50 AM
I vote Rogue. Rally/Rambler Phillips combo tool is good, but I don't like the SD tip on the nail file. Normal nail file with flat tip combo tool will handle most small Phillips and flat screws. Flat tip combo tool is beefier and can be used for #2 Phillips anyway. Just my 2 cents worth

Damn, I keep forgetting Rogue is a real tool. Looks like Monrogue is headed back to the drawing board.

If it was not discontinued it would have been in the running for my keychain SAK for sure. Except that the name of the sAK reminds me of Monrogue and that makes me

Discontinued, but not that rare. I got one in October for 10 Euros... there are 8 now on eBay at the 25ish USD mark...

Sazabi · **Reply #17 on:** January 09, 2015, 10:02:43 PM

Or you can get Emerald Rogues with emergency blade for $7 plus tax, discontinued or not.

Higgins617 · **Reply #18 on:** January 09, 2015, 10:44:43 PM

Quote from: Sazabi on January 09, 2015, 10:02:43 PM

Or you can get Emerald Rogues with emergency blade for $7 plus tax, discontinued or not.

Ebay? Or do you know some secret witchcraft that we don't.

Sazabi · **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2015, 02:19:39 AM

Quote from: Higgins617 on January 09, 2015, 10:44:43 PM

Quote from: Sazabi on January 09, 2015, 10:02:43 PM
Or you can get Emerald Rogues with emergency blade for $7 plus tax, discontinued or not.
Ebay? Or do you know some secret witchcraft that we don't.

Sorry, I kinda spazzed out halfway through the post. SMKW has them in their showroom.

Lynn LeFey · **Reply #20 on:** January 10, 2015, 03:03:59 AM

I like the classic, but I like the cap lifter/philips driver.

Since maybe the MOSt used tool on any MT I carry is scissors, it kind of rules out the Rally. If I didn't want scissors, though... it would be right in there.

Since I DO like the scissors... it's Rambler for me.

HarleyXJGuy · **Reply #21 on:** January 10, 2015, 04:05:18 AM

Quote from: Sazabi on January 10, 2015, 02:19:39 AM

Quote from: Higgins617 on January 09, 2015, 10:44:43 PM
Quote from: Sazabi on January 09, 2015, 10:02:43 PM
Or you can get Emerald Rogues with emergency blade for $7 plus tax, discontinued or not.
Ebay? Or do you know some secret witchcraft that we don't.

Sorry, I kinda spazzed out halfway through the post. SMKW has them in their showroom.

What is SMKW? I am curious about this as I would like to have a Rogue or four.

AimlessWanderer · **Reply #22 on:** January 10, 2015, 04:06:10 AM

Smokey Mountain Knife Works

HarleyXJGuy · **Reply #23 on:** January 10, 2015, 04:11:10 AM

Quote from: 50ft-trad on January 10, 2015, 04:06:10 AM

Smokey Mountain Knife Works

Yeah was the first hit on google but I can not seem to find no Rogues on the site.

sir_mike · **Reply #24 on:** January 10, 2015, 04:49:02 AM

To me the Rambler is the best small sak with the best tool set. I do like the Rally if I didnt need scissors!

Sazabi · **Reply #25 on:** January 10, 2015, 05:05:10 AM

Anyone who wants a red Rogue, PM me. It'll be a while before I could get the emerald ones again. These would have the regular blade, not the emergency blade.

HarleyXJGuy · **Reply #26 on:** January 10, 2015, 05:06:42 AM

Quote from: Sazabi on January 10, 2015, 05:05:10 AM

Anyone who wants a red Rogue, PM me. It'll be a while before I could get the emerald ones again. These would have the regular blade, not the emergency blade.

I thought the Rogue had a blade, nail cleaner, scissors and combo tool?

Sazabi · **Reply #27 on:** January 10, 2015, 05:10:51 AM

Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on January 10, 2015, 05:06:42 AM

Quote from: Sazabi on January 10, 2015, 05:05:10 AM
Anyone who wants a red Rogue, PM me. It'll be a while before I could get the emerald ones again. These would have the regular blade, not the emergency blade.

I thought the Rogue had a blade, nail cleaner, scissors and combo tool?

Sorry, Rover. I always get the two mixed up. The Rally with the older combo tool.

HarleyXJGuy · **Reply #28 on:** January 10, 2015, 05:13:19 AM

Quote from: Sazabi on January 10, 2015, 05:10:51 AM

Quote from: HarleyXJGuy on January 10, 2015, 05:06:42 AM
Quote from: Sazabi on January 10, 2015, 05:05:10 AM
Anyone who wants a red Rogue, PM me. It'll be a while before I could get the emerald ones again. These would have the regular blade, not the emergency blade.

I thought the Rogue had a blade, nail cleaner, scissors and combo tool?

Sorry, Rover. I always get the two mixed up. The Rally with the older combo tool.

Flat head combo tool and no scissors, I will pass thanks for the offer though.

TazzieRob · **Reply #29 on:** January 11, 2015, 10:33:45 PM

Just got some Rovers and Classics and make some Rogues!

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