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Gerber TurboDiesel
on: January 10, 2015, 12:27:43 AM
The Gerber TurboDiesel is my largest knifeless mod to date. I already had a plain stainless variety of Diesel, but wanted to go one step further. For this I wanted a black oxide version.



To be quite honest, other than a little re-sequencing of how the tools are arranged in the handles, there is not much to differentiate this tool from any other diesel - one change in fact, but that one change adds a whole different dimension to the tool - jigsaw blades.



The idea came from the fact that the Diesel file does not have the serrations along the edge for metal sawing. I then figured out that if I could drop in a blade changer unit, I could keep the ceramic Remgrit blade in there, but also couple it with jigsaw blades if required. I still wanted to keep the standard Diesel saw in place though, as I actually quite like it. It also means I need to lug around less peripheral accessories.

The blade holder was harvested from a previous mod of mine I dubbed the DEsTroyer, which was a MP600 DET that had the shears dropped in from a Paul Chen Multitasker (I'll figure out what to fill the gap with on that tool another day). All I lost from the Diesel in order to get this in was the partially serrated tanto blade, and the lanyard loop. All other functions of the Diesel remain. I was going to remove the semi-flattened Phillips driver and install the full 3D driver from the DEsTroyer, but opted against it.




I kepth the flattened Phillips for two reasons. Firstly, the Diesel driver has a slightly longer reach than the MP600 driver, and secondly it gave me a reason to couple this tool with the Diesel's bit adaptor. I do have the adaptor for the MP600 too, but that gets occasional use with the MP700 and MP426 mod, so I didn't want to tie that up to a specific kit. The MP600 driver will act as back up, in that should I ever deform the Diesel driver by over torquing it, I'll replace with with the 600's. Unfortunately that does mean I'll have to choose another tool to sacrifice from the line up. Initially I was going to dispose of the can opener to do this, as I would never use a BO can opener (not food safe), however the can opener on the Diesel does function quite well as an awl in the absence of anything better.

Other than the now absent lanyard loop (which I don't need as I don't work at heights, and no longer have a boat to drop tools from) the only function missing is a knife blade ... and I prefer dedicated knives to those on multitools anyway. There was only one knife in my array with the looks and capability to back up this supercharged Diesel ...




... the Boker XS.

Despite it's size and looks, the knife is actually non-locking with a cutting edge not exceeding 3" ... and is therefore UK legal for general carry. I had never used it for general carry though, as despite it's legality, it was still a bit of a granny scarer. It is quite a capable knife though for most chores, and should I ever need serrations, I'll fall back on the Diesel's saw to tear it's way through.

So we have multitool, bitset, and knife ..... we need a torch!



I decided to add into the mix my old faithful Fenix PD20 with lantern attachment and suspension clip. Not only does this give me a light, but also potenial for using it hands free. This gives me the basis of a kit ... a kit I had already built ages ago, and one that served me well, but one I was wanting to upgrade. The kit originally had a LED light that clips on a 9V battery, a CT41 and a SOG Toolclip. Those items have now been removed and the new items installed.



Additional items:

Rite-in-the-rain pen
4" Bahco adjustable spanner
1m measuring tape
FRED
Photon
Mini Clipper Lighter

I need to now review the contents of the back pockets and see what other usefull goodies I can get in there without overloading the Maxped Micro EDC pouch ... but so far I'm very happy with it


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #1 on: January 10, 2015, 12:30:51 AM
Cool mod.

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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #2 on: January 10, 2015, 01:06:18 AM
That looks real nice mate.  :cheers:

I've never held a Diesel. Also I like that you manage to explain some. I find that really hard to do so just post pics.


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #3 on: January 10, 2015, 01:14:17 AM
Thanks fellers  :salute:

That looks real nice mate.  :cheers:

I've never held a Diesel. Also I like that you manage to explain some. I find that really hard to do so just post pics.

I never have a problem getting wordy, but you probably already noticed that  :D


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #4 on: January 10, 2015, 01:17:40 AM
Thanks fellers  :salute:

That looks real nice mate.  :cheers:

I've never held a Diesel. Also I like that you manage to explain some. I find that really hard to do so just post pics.

I never have a problem getting wordy, but you probably already noticed that  :D

I should get you to write up my threads.  :D


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #5 on: January 10, 2015, 01:48:47 AM
 :D :D

If the tallies under our names went on word count rather than post count, I would be significantly higher up the rankings  :whistle:

As an aside, I hope to get another new thread up shortly showing clearly why (for me) this tool always beats the equivalent Leatherman tools. This isn't a nonsense Gerber vs LM exercise or any kind of wind up, but a genuine and honest demonstration as to why I take some of the views I do on certain tools  :salute:


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #6 on: January 10, 2015, 01:54:01 AM
I still think your a closet LM lover. oke:
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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #7 on: January 10, 2015, 01:57:48 AM
I honestly have about equal numbers of tools from LM and Gerber. I critique the tools rather than the brand (most of the time  :whistle:) it's just that Leatherman seem to like giving me ammo to shoot them down with  >:D

That said, it was the Roundhouse Kick mod all week this week, and that was the tool used (with the tox bits) for stripping down and rebuilding this Diesel  :tu:


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #8 on: January 11, 2015, 02:54:13 AM
Obviously not much love for the Diesel round here  :D


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #9 on: January 11, 2015, 02:58:40 AM
Obviously not much love for the Diesel round here  :D

It looks like one of my threads.  :P


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #10 on: January 11, 2015, 03:22:14 AM
I like it.

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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #11 on: January 11, 2015, 03:35:35 AM
I've always had my doubts about the flat Phillips but other than that the Diesel is a pretty nice tool. Nice mod :tu:
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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #12 on: January 11, 2015, 03:54:56 AM
Obviously not much love for the Diesel round here  :D

It looks like one of my threads.  :P

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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #13 on: January 11, 2015, 03:55:36 AM


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #14 on: January 11, 2015, 03:58:35 AM
I've always had my doubts about the flat Phillips but other than that the Diesel is a pretty nice tool. Nice mod :tu:

I know what you mean Steve, but in fairness the Grappler's one worked quite well, and I've never had any real issues with the LM bits (which are essentially the same profile). The Wingman and Sidekick seem to have their fans round here too  :D

My only real concern is if I overtorque it with the full 3D bit adaptor in place. Should that happen though, I'll switch it (and something else) out to put in the one from the DET


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #15 on: January 11, 2015, 04:16:14 AM
Good job buddy, looks very good!
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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #16 on: January 11, 2015, 11:42:05 AM
Thanks mate  :)


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #17 on: January 11, 2015, 11:43:14 AM
Obviously not much love for the Diesel round here  :D
I had to read the whole thing twice to understand it as I'm a Gerber Noob. It looks like a good tool and I second the combination of bladeless MT + dedicated folder.

Would you post a picture of your Diesel next to a MP600 for me, please?
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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #18 on: January 11, 2015, 12:09:45 PM
Obviously not much love for the Diesel round here  :D
I had to read the whole thing twice to understand it as I'm a Gerber Noob. It looks like a good tool and I second the combination of bladeless MT + dedicated folder.

Would you post a picture of your Diesel next to a MP600 for me, please?

I don't have a stock MP600 for comparison, but I will try to take some meaningful pics alongside what's left of the DeSTroyer mod. Is there anything particular you are wanting comparisons of?


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #19 on: January 11, 2015, 12:17:21 PM
Obviously not much love for the Diesel round here  :D
I had to read the whole thing twice to understand it as I'm a Gerber Noob. It looks like a good tool and I second the combination of bladeless MT + dedicated folder.

Would you post a picture of your Diesel next to a MP600 for me, please?

I don't have a stock MP600 for comparison, but I will try to take some meaningful pics alongside what's left of the DeSTroyer mod. Is there anything particular you are wanting comparisons of?
No, just the size. I have a hard time going from numbers...
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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #20 on: January 11, 2015, 12:20:26 PM
Obviously not much love for the Diesel round here  :D
I had to read the whole thing twice to understand it as I'm a Gerber Noob. It looks like a good tool and I second the combination of bladeless MT + dedicated folder.

Would you post a picture of your Diesel next to a MP600 for me, please?

I don't have a stock MP600 for comparison, but I will try to take some meaningful pics alongside what's left of the DeSTroyer mod. Is there anything particular you are wanting comparisons of?
No, just the size. I have a hard time going from numbers...

No problem  :tu: I have to go out shortly, but I'll try to do this when I get back  :cheers:


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #21 on: January 11, 2015, 07:15:21 PM
I like the looks of the Turbo Diesel. I don't think I would have opted for two saw blades but I can certainly rationalize taking that blade out and carrying a separate blade for several reasons with this tool.


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #22 on: January 11, 2015, 07:34:58 PM
Obviously not much love for the Diesel round here  :D

I wouldn't worry about that much, it's kind of disheartening sometimes when you put all the effort in taking pics and posting a write-up and there's hardly a single page of responses. Most of us have been through that. Just ask Chako who is one of many with great posts and sometimes very little responses.

Rest assured people still read your and posts of others and enjoy the content, it's just that they don't tend to respond and comment much these days. It's the way of online forums in general, at least this is something I noticed being a member of dozen other forums around.

BTW, great mod and while I am one of many who doesn't normally share your discontent and poking a stick at Leatherman tools, this Gerber I like very much. Maybe Gerber should take notice and create one of knife-less Diesels as standard offering, like they did with an MP600.  ;)

Keep up the good work, mate!  :tu:
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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #23 on: January 11, 2015, 08:16:08 PM
Very :vader:

:cheers:

And looks like a useful tool too. :D


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #24 on: January 11, 2015, 09:56:25 PM
Obviously not much love for the Diesel round here  :D
I had to read the whole thing twice to understand it as I'm a Gerber Noob. It looks like a good tool and I second the combination of bladeless MT + dedicated folder.

Would you post a picture of your Diesel next to a MP600 for me, please?

I don't have a stock MP600 for comparison, but I will try to take some meaningful pics alongside what's left of the DeSTroyer mod. Is there anything particular you are wanting comparisons of?
No, just the size. I have a hard time going from numbers...

No problem  :tu: I have to go out shortly, but I'll try to do this when I get back  :cheers:

Are these any good for you ...? I thought I'd throw in a quick comparison of the two Phillips drivers too. The Diesel is above and the modified MP600 is below in all pics. Please also note that the amount that the heads protrude will vary according to the type fitted (needle nosed, blunt nosed, fishing pliers, or the Paul Chen shears in the model shown)







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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #25 on: January 11, 2015, 10:05:48 PM
I like the looks of the Turbo Diesel. I don't think I would have opted for two saw blades but I can certainly rationalize taking that blade out and carrying a separate blade for several reasons with this tool.

Yeah, I can see that standard tanto-esque blade being a turn off for many users. As to having two saw blades, I see your point, but it doesn't pose too much duplication really. The Remgrit blade will be left in there for the most part (because it's matches the looks of the tool) unless I need to switch it for a metal cutting jigsaw blade. As I see it, the fitted woodsaw and file will pick up most of what is needed, but the blade exchanger is there just incase there's something that the others would struggle with. I might even source a couple of rough/fine toothed wood blades fo compliment the fitted saw for cutting stuff that's particularly sappy/claggy, or plastics, or whatever ...


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #26 on: January 11, 2015, 10:08:13 PM
Obviously not much love for the Diesel round here  :D

I wouldn't worry about that much, it's kind of disheartening sometimes when you put all the effort in taking pics and posting a write-up and there's hardly a single page of responses. Most of us have been through that. Just ask Chako who is one of many with great posts and sometimes very little responses.

Rest assured people still read your and posts of others and enjoy the content, it's just that they don't tend to respond and comment much these days. It's the way of online forums in general, at least this is something I noticed being a member of dozen other forums around.

BTW, great mod and while I am one of many who doesn't normally share your discontent and poking a stick at Leatherman tools, this Gerber I like very much. Maybe Gerber should take notice and create one of knife-less Diesels as standard offering, like they did with an MP600.  ;)

Keep up the good work, mate!  :tu:

I know, don't worry, my comment was a bit tongue in cheek  :D

Many thanks for your kind comments  :cheers: I think this could prove to be quite a reliable and versatile tool  :salute:


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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #27 on: January 11, 2015, 10:10:03 PM
Very :vader:

:cheers:

And looks like a useful tool too. :D

Thanks Nikola  :salute:

Actually .... I might be able to make it look even more :vader: if I can find red blades for the blade exchanger

 >:D :rofl:
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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #28 on: January 11, 2015, 10:13:13 PM
Thanks for those pictures :tu:, now I have a good idea about their relative sizes, very helpful.
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Re: Gerber TurboDiesel
Reply #29 on: January 11, 2015, 10:17:33 PM
Thanks for those pictures :tu:, now I have a good idea about their relative sizes, very helpful.

Cool  :cheers: Apologies for not being clear enough first time round  :salute:

If anyone else has any queries, please shout up  :tu:


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