Is there

[gafftapegreenia]

A Vic with an end mounted philips, and a top mounted awl like on the Farmer?

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

A Vic with an end mounted philips, and a top mounted awl like on the Farmer?

Not that I'm aware of, no

[Benner]

A Vic with an end mounted philips, and a top mounted awl like on the Farmer?

No.

Not unless Bill has modded one.

[Benner]

Would be a great SAK though. 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

But the can opener on the pioneer/soldier series makes a great phillips driver, unless the screw's really recessed

[Benner]

But the can opener on the pioneer/soldier series makes a great phillips driver, unless the screw's really recessed

I haven't had too much luck with that.    I'd rather have a "proper" phillips.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

But the can opener on the pioneer/soldier series makes a great phillips driver, unless the screw's really recessed

I haven't had too much luck with that.    I'd rather have a "proper" phillips.

Well it's usually the only thing to hand, so I guess I've just had a bit more practice

[Neil]

A Vic with an end mounted philips, and a top mounted awl like on the Farmer?

No.

Not unless Bill has modded one.

Bill's the man   http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/821399/post/1514952

Neil

[Benner]

Now that is just awesome. 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Dude's a genius 

[Benner]

Dude's a genius

What you thinking about? 

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I meant the salutey smiley

[gafftapegreenia]

Uh, the link doesn't like me

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Uh, the link doesn't like me

Bugger, I take it your not a member of sosak then

[Benner]

I meant the salutey smiley

I thought you did. 

[gafftapegreenia]

Uh, the link doesn't like me

Bugger, I take it your not a member of sosak then

I joined that forum. Where do I pledge to sosak?

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Hope Bill doesn't mind...

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Uh, the link doesn't like me

Bugger, I take it your not a member of sosak then

I joined that forum. Where do I pledge to sosak?

It's a hidden forum, but if you go to the forum marked SOSAK, and just leave a post there, then Def or one of the other Mod's will let you in

[AndyTiedye]

Of course, the Swisstools have both the awl and the Phillips on the end.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Of course, the Swisstools have both the awl and the Phillips on the end.

Thats very true

[gafftapegreenia]

Uh, the link doesn't like me

Bugger, I take it your not a member of sosak then

I joined that forum. Where do I pledge to sosak?

It's a hidden forum, but if you go to the forum marked SOSAK, and just leave a post there, then Def or one of the other Mod's will let you in

Just did that.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Ok it's just a waiting game now I'm affraid , shouldn't take too long though hopefully, but I uploaded the pictures in the link a few posts back

[gafftapegreenia]

Of course my other "concept SAK" is a essentially an "all-screw driver" SAK using all the current drivers available along with the bit driver from the cybertool. Is it feasible to put a back spring philips and corkscrew on the same knife?

I take a lot of stuff apart. I like my screwdrivers.

[Neil]

Yes, but... its a bit of a kludge with a lot of wasted space.  Here's a link to one to one of SporK60's rainy afternoon adventures
http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?post/1554054/

Me, I went with the simpler option...



... the NKB DL CT  or Dinky Little CyberTool

Neil

[max6166]

Me, I went with the simpler option...



... the NKB DL CT  or Dinky Little CyberTool

Neil

I didn't know you made one of those! I can't count the number of times I posted that someone should do exactly that. Great minds think alike!

Now that I have actually seen one, I have one word: "alox".... Heh? Heh? Make it a little skinnier and you can use it to compliment any other SAK you might want to pocket carry. Like a "Porta-Layer".

[max6166]

But the can opener on the pioneer/soldier series makes a great phillips driver, unless the screw's really recessed

I haven't had too much luck with that.    I'd rather have a "proper" phillips.

On smaller screws, my experience is the exact opposite. On my Explorer, I have started using the can opener philips head more than the actual inline philips.

The proper philips slips a lot more on smaller screws, because the very tip is squared off due to the way they are manufactured. The back-mounted philips don't have this problem and are normal philips heads, but you need more clearance because of their placement.

The can opener philips, on the other hand, has fits small philips perfectly and is also inline. It's no good for recessed screws though...

[Benner]

I think it was Terry (NutSAK) that said he used it like that a lot as well.  I just don't feel it works as well for me.

Perhaps more testing is in order. 

[Rodion]

A Vic with an end mounted philips, and a top mounted awl like on the Farmer?

You mean like this?



I am not aware of any non-alox top awls.

[Benner]

That has the phillips, but not the awl that is described.

Like you said, that specific awl is for the ALOX models only and there are no models in ALOX that include that specific phillips.

[max6166]

I think it was Terry (NutSAK) that said he used it like that a lot as well.  I just don't feel it works as well for me.

Perhaps more testing is in order. 

Perhaps it is because we all use the driver primarily for different types of work?

For example, I mainly work with small M3 and 6-32 screws for computers and electronics, etc. Those are the screws where the Vic inline philips tends to slip on me.

I became very used to using the can opener driver because of this, so I just use it all the time now. It did feel very weird at first, but it was primarily just a cognitive mismatch.

The slipping problem doesn't happen nearly as much when I use the inline driver on larger philips screws though, so I would likely prefer the inline philips now if I had been primarily dealing with larger screws all this time - especially if they were stiff too.

Different tools for different situations and people...