Unusual SAKs

Reinier · **Reply #90 on:** April 28, 2015, 03:04:27 PM

Great, now I need one of those off-white ones as well

Why is my wanted list only getting longer?

twiliter · **Reply #91 on:** April 28, 2015, 03:15:54 PM

Quote from: Reinier on April 28, 2015, 03:04:27 PM

Great, now I need one of those off-white ones as well
Why is my wanted list only getting longer?

twiliter · **Reply #92 on:** May 08, 2015, 09:48:26 PM

A little unusual this one. I think all advert models are unusual, but that's just me.

A Standard dated between '91-'01 with inlay for Castolin Eutectic (Swiss founded high tech welding/coating company), but the Vic shield inlay is vertical to the length of the knife. I don't collect advert models, but this is a new one to me.

SAK Guy · **Reply #93 on:** May 08, 2015, 10:15:25 PM

That is kinda unusual!!!!

Reinier · **Reply #94 on:** May 08, 2015, 10:56:25 PM

Nice! I just bought a 74mm SAKs that also has a rotated shield.
Which is weird because the rules/conditions for promotional SAKs say that the position of the shield cannot be altered.

ColoSwiss · **Reply #95 on:** May 08, 2015, 11:16:28 PM

Here's a Tourist with an unusual cross. Scanmatic is a Norwegian electronics firm.

SAK Guy · **Reply #96 on:** May 08, 2015, 11:19:30 PM

Another unique one!!!

Reinier · **Reply #97 on:** May 09, 2015, 12:26:23 AM

Mine is less interesting because the shield is just painted on, unlike twiliter's example which is inlaid.

twiliter · **Reply #98 on:** May 09, 2015, 12:29:24 PM

Quote from: Reinier on May 08, 2015, 10:56:25 PM

Nice! I just bought a 74mm SAKs that also has a rotated shield.
Which is weird because the rules/conditions for promotional SAKs say that the position of the shield cannot be altered.

That is interesting, that's probably why your 74 is only the second one I've seen like that.

Quote from: ColoSwiss on May 08, 2015, 11:16:28 PM

Here's a Tourist with an unusual cross. Scanmatic is a Norwegian electronics firm.

That's a cool inlay!

LoneWolf2014 · **Reply #99 on:** June 10, 2015, 03:09:49 PM

Bump...
Jazzbass... The lesson has been on hold for far too long...

tjfarrington2000 · **Reply #100 on:** June 10, 2015, 09:54:39 PM

Quote from: charlie fox on April 12, 2015, 01:24:08 PM

Probably not unusual, but news to me; Vic's new Delemont series combines the best of Vic and Wenger - Vic's can opener with Wengers clip point small blade and scissors. Oh, and no hook! I'll be looking into these

love my S54 Vic

So big that it needs the XAVT sheath

Sent from my iPhone using A box of monkeys on a treadmill and a quantum leap

MWDP · **Reply #101 on:** June 12, 2015, 11:56:08 AM

Easily one of my favorite threads

twiliter · **Reply #102 on:** July 17, 2015, 03:58:13 PM

Here's another odd Angler/Fisherman model, and according to my limited research about the Victoria tang, scraper on the caplifter, 5 turn CS, file with cleaner tip, ruler on the hook remover, silver tip tweezers, and small clip blade it's probably a '74 transitional model. What's unusual is that I can't find any 5 layer Angler/Fisherman models on SakWiki except the Deluxe with pliers. This one is essentially a Mountaineer with fish scaler/hook remover. The inlays also appear to be pre-stainless.

SAK Guy · **Reply #103 on:** July 17, 2015, 04:20:28 PM

Very cool TL!!!!!

twiliter · **Reply #104 on:** July 17, 2015, 04:35:02 PM

Quote from: SAK Guy on July 17, 2015, 04:20:28 PM

Very cool TL!!!!!

Thanks, another very lucky find.

Herman · **Reply #105 on:** July 22, 2015, 12:00:00 AM

Who knows about (or has) the knife with a deer head picuture on the side? It's a green one, and I'm not talking about the whitetail deer Jazzbass mentioned. Must be older. If I remember well, it's like a lumberjack configuration but in 91mm. I have seen it twice, a few years ago (one in a belgian auction lot, and one on a german site where a collector was selling his knives, too bad it was already sold...)

Herman · **Reply #106 on:** July 22, 2015, 01:53:36 PM

I'll reply to myself

Dear Herman, the knife you're looking for isn't green, it's black. And it's not 91mm, it's 84 (even better). Lumberjack-ish yes, but big difference is the serrated blade. Look at the picture I found on your computer... Tip: try to go to bed early for once...

Etherealicer · **Reply #107 on:** July 22, 2015, 01:56:09 PM

Quote from: Herman on July 22, 2015, 01:53:36 PM

I'll reply to myself

Dear Herman, the knife you're looking for isn't green, it's black. And it's not 91mm, it's 84 (even better). Lumberjack-ish yes, but big difference is the serrated blade. Look at the picture I found on your computer... Tip: try to go to bed early for once...

Its a madhouse here and sleep is frowned upon, but that is a sweet knife

Shalom · **Reply #108 on:** July 22, 2015, 04:15:38 PM

Herman,
I think you may have had this picture of a Victorinox Hunter 111mm in mind when you said it's Green.
You can also see a red version on Sakwiki 111 page Hunter.

Herman · **Reply #109 on:** July 22, 2015, 04:32:31 PM

Indeed, I actually have this knife and probably seeing it often, made me mix up things.

ColoSwiss · **Reply #110 on:** July 23, 2015, 12:08:46 AM

Quote from: Herman on July 22, 2015, 01:53:36 PM

I'll reply to myself

Dear Herman, the knife you're looking for isn't green, it's black. And it's not 91mm, it's 84 (even better). Lumberjack-ish yes, but big difference is the serrated blade. Look at the picture I found on your computer... Tip: try to go to bed early for once...

Nice! Have a picture of one in my notes, but no other info.

jazzbass · **Reply #111 on:** August 07, 2015, 08:55:01 PM

So here's a very unusual one I just got. I thought it'd be interesting to see if anyone could say why it's unusual. It's a Spartan, the most common model, so nothing unusual there. The shrinking scales would indicate that they are made from celluloid (not cellidor) and as such would date the knife to the early 1940s. While very cool, knives from this era aren't super rare - not enough that IMO they belong in this thread. So what is it that makes this knife so rare that I've only ever seen 3 or 4 like it in all my years of collecting?

Reinier · **Reply #112 on:** August 07, 2015, 09:54:10 PM

Is that a carbon steel blade?

jazzbass · **Reply #113 on:** August 07, 2015, 10:17:56 PM

Quote from: Reinier on August 07, 2015, 09:54:10 PM

Is that a carbon steel blade?

That's it! In fact, all of the tools are carbon steel, not just the main blade. Being from the early 40s this knife would have been made almost 20 years after Victorinox started using stainless steel. However, they did continue to make a small number of Officers Knives in carbon steel into at least the early to mid 1940s. Finding older knives (fiber scales, large screwdriver instead of caplifter) in carbon steel is fairly common, but newer models like this in carbon steel are tough to find.

detron · **Reply #114 on:** August 07, 2015, 10:20:06 PM

@jazzbass, I love this thread

Huntsman · **Reply #115 on:** August 08, 2015, 03:24:41 AM

Good spot Reiner.....

Nice one and thanks once again JB

I was going to say brass (coloured) liners - But I guess they are not that rare!

VoetSak · **Reply #116 on:** August 09, 2015, 08:18:48 PM

Hahahaha,

I called carbon steel then scrolled down......

Its the little things in life that make us happy!

I do look forward to the updates in this thread.

VoetSak · **Reply #117 on:** August 09, 2015, 08:19:41 PM

I have a few advertising knives now with no shield at all on them. Is this uncommon?

jazzbass · **Reply #118 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:07:00 AM

Just got this one in, and I really like this one. I have a thing for old knives, Elinox knives, knives with St Christopher inlays, and knives with special tool combinations. This knife is a combination of all four. If it had a bail and a large awl it'd be damn near perfect.

Depending on your perspective, this knife is either a Motorist variant (i.e. Motorist with saw instead of a file) or a Hiker variant (Hiker with technician screwdriver). This knife was a special run for a paper manufacturer located in Nebikon, Lucerne called Pavag AG. Pavag stands for "Papier Verarbeitungs AG", so the full company name was, curiously, "Papier Verarbeitungs AG AG" (Paper Processors Inc Inc). Go figure. Anyway, the website of the successor company (Pavag Folien AG) states that Pavag was Switzerland's first paper mill, started in 1926. This explains the tree on the logo and the choice of wood saw over metal file.

As this knife was custom order, it probably wouldn't have been given either a model name or number. Since everyone likes to call SAKs by a name, I decided to christen this it the "Papetier", French for "paper-maker" as a nod the origins of the company that originally ordered it. I've also listed it as a "Model 8137a" - in this case I just followed the convention of other special Elinox knives at the time like the Motorist (the 8134ma).

This knife was probably made sometime around 1962-1963 right after the switch to the small, concealed awl. This knife is a typical Elinox line knife from the early 60s - all tools are unpolished except the main blade, which by this time was polished just like Victoria blades were (earlier Elinox main blades from the late 1950s were not polished). The Phillips screwdriver lacks the file that would have been present on Victoria line knives of the time, and the saw is still the older 1950s style with the nail nick in it. These were common on large awl Elinox knives from the late 50s and early 60s, but discontinued right around the time that they switched to the small awl, so it's somewhat unusual to see it on a small awl knife.

detron · **Reply #119 on:** October 28, 2015, 03:28:22 AM

Quote from: jazzbass on October 28, 2015, 03:07:00 AM

Just got this one in, and I really like this one. I have a thing for old knives, Elinox knives, knives with St Christopher inlays, and knives with special tool combinations. This knife is a combination of all four. If it had a bail and a large awl it'd be damn near perfect.

Depending on your perspective, this knife is either a Motorist variant (i.e. Motorist with saw instead of a file) or a Hiker variant (Hiker with technician screwdriver). This knife was a special run for a paper manufacturer located in Nebikon, Lucerne called Pavag AG. Pavag stands for "Papier Verarbeitungs AG", so the full company name was, curiously, "Papier Verarbeitungs AG AG" (Paper Processors Inc Inc). Go figure. Anyway, the website of the successor company (Pavag Folien AG) states that Pavag was Switzerland's first paper mill, started in 1926. This explains the tree on the logo and the choice of wood saw over metal file.

As this knife was custom order, it probably wouldn't have been given either a model name or number. Since everyone likes to call SAKs by a name, I decided to christen this it the "Papetier", French for "paper-maker" as a nod the origins of the company that originally ordered it. I've also listed it as a "Model 8137a" - in this case I just followed the convention of other special Elinox knives at the time like the Motorist (the 8134ma).

This knife was probably made sometime around 1962-1963 right after the switch to the small, concealed awl. This knife is a typical Elinox line knife from the early 60s - all tools are unpolished except the main blade, which by this time was polished just like Victoria blades were (earlier Elinox main blades from the late 1950s were not polished). The Phillips screwdriver lacks the file that would have been present on Victoria line knives of the time, and the saw is still the older 1950s style with the nail nick in it. These were common on large awl Elinox knives from the late 50s and early 60s, but discontinued right around the time that they switched to the small awl, so it's somewhat unusual to see it on a small awl knife.

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I love when you post stuff like this! makes me happy! (maybe a little jealous, but mostly happy).

the Awl looks like the cutting surface is larger than current version, can you confirm that? or is it just a trick of the light.

thanks!

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